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Ltin said:
Harmless doesn't necessarily mean you benefit. Sure he could be numbers to the town, but he could also be numbers to the mafia (if someone doesn't backstab him for wanting to sleep, I'm still bitter about that)
He could also be going on the idea of "No idiot would claim third party, so logically, claim third party!".
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Man, am I gonna look like an idiot soon then.

It must be the way my sexy hair looks, it's distracting me.

I've got one important point to add: Contrary to what Lee_Scar thinks, it is extremely important to look back at past game behaviors for the people with amnesia. That will provide the key for finding out what they are in this game. Ever heard of Wish Fulfillment?
 
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((After getting into Log Horizon I see similarities between Ender and Shiroe o.o Onwards to Season 2!))

Blegh, I feel like Hunter is Mafia/malicious third party (and there is some evidence to point towards it) but I can see how Alpha is a better candidate for this day's lynch. Heart or head is ze question, both have proved useful before icri.
Tomorrow is the deadline (for me atleast, although 14 minutes before Monday) so we should probably reach a good conclusion and lynch soon noting how many hours people will be sleeping/busy through that time.
Looking at all the evidence I guess it makes more sense to lynch Alpha or Duffie rather than possibly lynching a town who we expect to flip mafia/third party and Alpha's claim is the least believable and the lingering thought of him lying has been present the whole game.

To make this a bit easier why doesn't Myuser, Alpha, Duffie, Notty or Coolio present all there evidence against Hunter in one post rather than it being spread all around the place. The same goes for Lee, Hunter, Ltin or Jolteon (or Ender but I feel like his ideas are already summed up in the post above) And at it, Raxo or 77 can say why they think no-lynching is better and EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD SPEAK UP WHO HAS BARELY POSTED. Currently to me Alpha is looking like the most viable option but I'd like everyone to express their opinion before there's a possible mass vote.

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Alpha102 said:
I've got one important point to add: Contrary to what Lee_Scar thinks, it is extremely important to look back at past game behaviors for the people with amnesia. That will provide the key for finding out what they are in this game. Ever heard of Wish Fulfillment?
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And if you ask me how I'm feeling about this, let me tell you that yes, you can do that. Or, you know, people could have anticipated this and the roles would be something they don't want that much in order to give themselves a challenge or to keep the rest of us off their track. It's another WIFOM. If you want to ache your head over this, go ahead, but I'll stick with logic that doesn't loop around.
 
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endersteve5 said:
And if you ask me how I'm feeling about this, let me tell you that yes, you can do that. Or, you know, people could have anticipated this and the roles would be something they don't want that much in order to give themselves a challenge or to keep the rest of us off their track. It's another WIFOM. If you want to ache your head over this, go ahead, but I'll stick with logic that doesn't loop around.
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Well who would want a role they don't like? I'd rather play a fun role and lose than a boring role and win.
 
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Nottykitten said:
Well who would want a role they don't like? I'd rather play a fun role and lose than a boring role and win.
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Don't tell me you're too blind to see at least the possibility that someone would deliberately want a role that no one would expect from them, for the obvious benefits and perhaps a little challenge.
 
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endersteve5 said:
Don't tell me you're too blind to see at least the possibility that someone would deliberately want a role that no one would expect from them, for the obvious benefits and perhaps a little challenge.
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Won't delve farther into this because I don't know how far this goes into pm analyzing but I don't think this is quite as simple as you might think it is.
 
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-Refusing to answer myuser's questions early on, as Notty pointed out at that time it sounds like he has something to hide.

-The desperation to prove Duffie as a lyncher targeting him early on. The entire argument was predicated on Duffie being a lyncher, and he tried to spin it into making him look like a pro-town role.

-His silence on Defiant_Blob merely because he agrees with Defiant_Blob's playstyle. He calls out almost everyone else for various reason and left Defiant_Blob out of it. Even when Defiant_Blob calls Hunter out for various things he does, Hunter doesn't acknowledge it.

-Directly calling Notty out as a Bomb or Granny, which directly harms the town by mentioning it.

-Trying to prevent people from talking on the basis of Mafia gaining information, in a game where the town is the faction where they need to gain information. Couple that with the previous point and you've got him giving information in all of the wrong places.

-Strawmanning arguments considerably, and blowing many things out of proportion like the "Yet" debacle.

-Double standard with trusting Duffie over me, where we're both confirmed third parties.

-Actively trying to stop me from talking, which would make things easier for him to get me lynched since I wouldn't be able to defend myself.

-Policy reasons.
 
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Alpha102 said:
where we're both confirmed third parties.
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Claimed* third parties.

I was looking back through the thread, reading bits, skimming other bits, etc.
It was difficult due to all the crap and irrelevant posts, but I managed.*
I was reading specifically to get a read on Hunter...In my eyes, he was already scummy due his his overzealous and aggressive style of play, but I put all preconceptions aside and still thought he was scummy.

I had a general list laid out in a notepad, and then Alpha comes along as I'm expanding on them....And put them into words more eloquent than mine ;-;

Along with pretty much everything Alpha just said above, I had also noted that Hunter was very jumpy, changing the subject frequently and generally causing mass chaos. It feels like an attempt to make it hard to find actually relevant information..And it worked, see asterisk above.

And one thing I'd like to point out was the interaction between Ender and Hunter in which Ender asked Hunter to claim. Hunter refuses to claim a role and claims simply "townsided." Without hesitation, Ender believed it. Who in their right mind would claim anti-town? Ender didn't seem to even consider that Hunter would be lying.

Vote Hunter27a1
 
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myusername22 said:
I kind of think digitalmez probably has a grudge against me from the bloody masquerade. She wouldn't even answer my questions today. I know a lot of people are against this kind of thinking but I really think it works out. If I should die tonight you should assume digitalmez is mafia.
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Digi has hardly talked at all today, and from the last time I recall her even talking has been about knowing she was "lurking" (and thus trying to catch up due to real-life stuff).
A few people haven't answered the questions. Does everyone HAVE to answer the questions? I don't believe they necessarily have to(at this point they may simply clog up the thread since they aren't the most relevant to the discussion at this point in time).

You're just pointing the blaming finger due a really simple, and bad reason; it's not really enough event to consider digi to be dead even if you die tonight, as it may even be a false lead.
Grudges does necessary =/= Mafia, or even Third-party.
 
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Timdood3 said:
Claimed* third parties.

I was looking back through the thread, reading bits, skimming other bits, etc.
It was difficult due to all the crap and irrelevant posts, but I managed.*
I was reading specifically to get a read on Hunter...In my eyes, he was already scummy due his his overzealous and aggressive style of play, but I put all preconceptions aside and still thought he was scummy.

I had a general list laid out in a notepad, and then Alpha comes along as I'm expanding on them....And put them into words more eloquent than mine ;-;

Along with pretty much everything Alpha just said above, I had also noted that Hunter was very jumpy, changing the subject frequently and generally causing mass chaos. It feels like an attempt to make it hard to find actually relevant information..And it worked, see asterisk above.

And one thing I'd like to point out was the interaction between Ender and Hunter in which Ender asked Hunter to claim. Hunter refuses to claim a role and claims simply "townsided." Without hesitation, Ender believed it. Who in their right mind would claim anti-town? Ender didn't seem to even consider that Hunter would be lying.

Vote Hunter27a1
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Did Ender ever originally vote for hunter?
 
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