TBD [Status: GAME OVER]

[GmK]

Me and notty have the same amount of votes, so isn't notty lynch in 5 as well GmK

Well of course it is I was still editing go away I hate you all.

 

[Fruit]

D,:

 

[Fruit]

Also much better News Flash now.

 

[Enderfive]

And endersteve, the only reasoning I've seen so far is that I've been quiet. I was quiet the first two days because I didn't feel like reading 60 pages to catch up. So I just went with the bandwagon vote to make an appearance. Although they were bandwagon votes, Alpha was 3p and Ltin was caught in a lie. And I had ltin's role one game, where I was mafia, so I kind of based my voted off that. (Locksmith)

Vote NottyKitten

Yeah, that is the only reasoning against you right now, and it's still a better reasoning than the one against Notty. Let's examine what you just said about why you're voting Notty. You said that you're voting her on the off-chance that the bomb is somewhere else. That somehow leads to her probably being mafia? Explain how lying about the location of the bomb (which would be an effective way of fighting against mafia, even at the cost of one of our own) leads to the conclusion of her being mafia?

 

[catgirl12466]

Ugh classes are going straight through the deadline and beyond today. Thought I might have a break between classes but no, apparently my schedule is all back to back crap.

What I really want/need to say before having to leave is don't target me tonight. I'm expecting mafia at my door, and room A is going to get all the details. 'Course, you can still try to silence me while sacrificing a member, but we'll see how that goes...
seriously though don't. bad things will happen if you're town.

Unfortunately I'm in a hurry to get to class now so I'd rather not make a hasty vote. Also my suspicions are elsewhere entirely. What else is new. I mostly just wanted to get that warning in. Sorry. Good luck with the coin toss, you two!

 

[catgirl12466]

Actually no, I will make a hasty vote, but it won't be between Notty and Fruit.

I still don't like these targeting shenanigans, I've been stewing in paranoid theories, and I don't want to be responsible for killing one or the other, so 3rd option it is. OKGOTTAGOCLASSNOWBYE

vote 77_is_the_best

 

[Fruit]

I was saying that if she does not have the bomb, that there never was a bomb, and her claim is fake. If her claim is fake again, then I think she's mafia.

She made a bomb and a investigative item, right?
She says that Endersteve is proven, then has a bomb as a reason to lynch her.
Notty gets lynched, because claiming to have a bomb worked.
Then there's the whole WIFOM of Endersteve's mafia buds with notty or she just wants to get him lynched if she's lynched, and flips scum.

That's what I think her plan is, and why she is scum.

I would believe her more if someone would confirm that they got one of her items.

Also, take a look at the situation from my point of view. Me and notty are the two main lynch targets. There's under 3 hours left in the day. I would be stupid not to vote for notty at this point. I have my reasonings, and you don't agree. I wouldn't vote for the person that has me as a confirmed innocent either, endersteve.

 

[GmK]

nottykitten - [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] - Defiant_Blob, Jivvi, the road to ruin, digitalmez, xXxFruitNinjaxXx (Lynch in 5)
Jivvi - [fa=fa-user][/fa] - Lee_Scar (Lynch in 9)
xxxFruitNinjaxXx - [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] [fa=fa-user][/fa] - 77_is_the_best, endersteve5, nottykitten, CoffebeansCat, samlen (Lynch in 5)
timdood3 - [fa=fa-user][/fa] - jKangaroo (Lynch in 9)
77_is_the_best - [fa=fa-user][/fa] - catgirl(numbers) (Lynch in 9)

Not voting: Jolteon42, Mad11gab8, Ooglie101, timdood3 , cooliorules,


With 18 alive it will take 10 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday 12th of January 8pm GMT. That is 2,5hrs from now.

 

[Enderfive]

I was saying that if she does not have the bomb, that there never was a bomb, and her claim is fake. If her claim is fake again, then I think she's mafia.

She made a bomb and a investigative item, right?
She says that Endersteve is proven, then has a bomb as a reason to lynch her.
Notty gets lynched, because claiming to have a bomb worked.
Then there's the whole WIFOM of Endersteve's mafia buds with notty or she just wants to get him lynched if she's lynched, and flips scum.

That's what I think her plan is, and why she is scum.

I would believe her more if someone would confirm that they got one of her items.

Also, take a look at the situation from my point of view. Me and notty are the two main lynch targets. There's under 3 hours left in the day. I would be stupid not to vote for notty at this point. I have my reasonings, and you don't agree. I wouldn't vote for the person that has me as a confirmed innocent either, endersteve.

I might be responding to you, but this is meant to be read by others. Of course I don't expect you to unvote, that would be suicide from your point of view.

Also, the claim isn't fake. The alignment is under question, yes, I agree to that much (even if I believe she's telling the truth about that as well), but the claim isn't fake, and I'm not just saying that because she's declared me inno.

 

[Jivvi]

Sure.


She's suspicious but not scummy. Okay.
She's making a big mess out of town leads (what leads?). Okay (not that I'd have noticed it, though).
We lynched Hunter. Okay. (Protip: we didn't.) (Another protip: he wasn't scum in the end.)


No, we haven't. Your conclusions matching with those of Defiant and Road don't mean that everyone's reached the same conclusion.


Look, the situation right now is as follows: Fruit isn't even trying to defend himself, which he should, if he was a townie. Notty, on the other hand, has been consistent in her claim and has proven her claim, too. The alignment is up for debate, yes, but I see no reason to not trust her claim of third party, either. The arguments made against Fruit, while weak, hold at least some merit. The arguments against Notty...

Okay, for example, let's take Coolio's argument against Notty. She says that if someone states they're not mafia, it means they're mafia. What kind of logic is that? If someone starts questioning a townie, who then states that he's not mafmafia, do you pounce on them saying that they're obviously mafia for saying that sentence? Of course you don't. Hell, I've explicitly stated that I am not mafia in this very game, but I don't see anyone accusing me for it.

Digi says that because Notty has been devious in past games, she's not to be trusted. Does that mean that if I, by chance, get a mafia role and play it good, then I can't be trusted again in any game? Of course not. You should only look at the evidence in front of you, in this game, or if you want to get meta, then maybe analyze the playstyle to see if any similarities turn up, although I regard that as not the smartest move as well.

I haven't seen one legitimate accusation against Notty. Give me one to discuss, and I will, but I don't want to discuss logic that isn't logic and reasons that aren't reasonable.

it's late and half of that post was wrong (obviously)

notty's still being hunter 2.0

also

(Another protip: he wasn't scum in the end.)

alright guys it's official do random useless things and you are not scum

 

[Enderfive]

also alright guys it's official do random useless things and you are not scum

How many more strawmen do I have to see in this game? I said that her supposedly being chaotic (which I still can't agree to) doesn't mean that she should be lynched because of that, not that it automagically clears you of any charges.

 

[Jivvi]

How many more strawmen do I have to see in this game? I said that her supposedly being chaotic (which I still can't agree to) doesn't mean that she should be lynched because of that, not that it automagically clears you of any charges.

lets lynch digitalmez

 

[Nottykitten]

Well Jivvi would anything change if I told you I have my item from last night to Ender?

 

[Nottykitten]

*gave damnit typo's

 

[Jivvi]

Well Jivvi would anything change if I told you I have my item from last night to Ender?

uh, yes, it would look like you and ender are absolutely in cahoots, given that you also 'investigated' him for an innocent result

also the fact that you claimed 3p and ender is unclaimed or w/e

very large suspicions of you two now

 

[Nottykitten]

uh, yes, it would look like you and ender are absolutely in cahoots, given that you also 'investigated' him for an innocent result

also the fact that you claimed 3p and ender is unclaimed or w/e

very large suspicions of you two now

Well I wasn't going to give an item that helps the town to someone whos alignment I don't know, now am I? I investigated Ender so he was the best option to give the item to.

 

[Enderfive]

uh, yes, it would look like you and ender are absolutely in cahoots, given that you also 'investigated' him for an innocent result

also the fact that you claimed 3p and ender is unclaimed or w/e

very large suspicions of you two now

What Notty said. Although I would've preferred that you'd keep the bomb's location secret, Notty, it's pretty much useless now.

 

[Jivvi]

that up there is kinda obvious and pointless, unless the actual point is subtly trying to establish in peoples' reasoning that it's fact

 

[Nottykitten]

Well I guess I should confess to the one lie I've told since I'm gonna get lynched anyways[still a stupid decision]. I can infact create more of the same item. I lied about this since I didn't want the Mafia thinking I could investigate more people. After all I have to stay alive for my win condition.

There are two bombs in play now. One on Ender and one on me. And if I don't get lynched I'll create another tonight. And I can slowly take down the Mafia since they're gonna be playing bomberman[totally wrong game but ok]. And if they the one creating the bombs out they're gonna have to sacrifice one of their own.

Atleast that was the plan. I never thought I was gonna get lynched since why would you lynch someone with a bomb. But ok I guess this is your decision. When I die, town, and turn up as non-mafia non-cult lynch-wasted Third-Party please look closely into everyone that voted for me since I'm pretty sure you'll find atleast 2 Mafia in there.

 

[Enderfive]

that up there is kinda obvious and pointless, unless the actual point is subtly trying to establish in peoples' reasoning that it's fact

That wasn't my intention.

 

[Jivvi]

lets lynch digitalmez

I kind of think digitalmez probably has a grudge against me from the bloody masquerade. She wouldn't even answer my questions today. I know a lot of people are against this kind of thinking but I really think it works out. If I should die tonight you should assume digitalmez is mafia.

this is actually hilarious because if it was rigged mafia would have played the card by now

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There are two bombs in play now. One on Ender and one on me.

You were accused of pulling a me-from-pvc and your answer is to claim you and your buddy both have bombs?

also if ender were town he would be at least a little distrusting of notty; if she's mafia, it's likely that her items are all fakes, and if her claim is legitimate, then she can create elaborate counterproductive items for him to use

meanwhile the bandwagon on fruit has no real ground bar his voting and not-spamming. he's more active than some others, and he hasn't been nearly as disruptive as some, rather playing about the same as 77. are we calling for 77's lynch yet?

 

[Nottykitten]

Well I have nothing more to say really I've said all that needed to be said. You now know my role, the items and everything.

Also in the quote you quoted, Myuser said " If I should die tonight you should assume digitalmez is mafia.". And Myuser was the town hider who dies when visiting a Mafia.

I think this is 999% more evidence than that on Fruit so:

Unvote
Vote Digitalmez

 

[Jivvi]

it really didnt take much for you to jump on that and avert from the current debate, did it? ;3

 

[digi]

Meh...
My vote on Notty remains.

 

[Nottykitten]

it really didnt take much for you to jump on that and avert from the current debate, did it? ;3

What current debate? The one where I can't change your minds on voting me?

Please tell me you're not gonna ignore the actual evidence on digi right here which makes it pretty obvious that she is Mafia. *Myuser is town hider that dies when visiting a Mafia* *myuser claimed that Digi would be Mafia if he died* *myuser died*.

Considering the deadline is in 1 hour and 5 minutes and I would very much like to lynch a Mafia and not get lynched myself, I'll hope people will actually get to their senses and vote Digi.