TBD [Status: GAME OVER]
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Mooglie
The Local Cow
oh.
well.
To avoid my similar death in SCP, I shall not use thiiiis. T'was a Knife, not sure if you can make that
Perhaps someone on the first Night died from the same thing since there seemed to be quite a bit more than usual.
Well well well. I'm happy that we were able to kill a mafia but I'd like to continue my FOS on Notty, also gonna resume my vote.
Vote NottyKitten
Now unlike yesterday I'm not concerned that notty is part of the cult, instead I'm going to call out what I see as a definite lie
Vote NottyKitten
Now unlike yesterday I'm not concerned that notty is part of the cult, instead I'm going to call out what I see as a definite lie
I've actually been trying to throw my own game together and hope to be on the queue soon (obligatory self advertisement!) and I have to say in any game but especially one this size your role Notty is absurdly overpowered. You're essentially an Omnipotent townie which was over powered in the first place but with unlimited uses you've left the world of realism. I could not in my wildest dreams conceive of a role which could balance you out unless the town was outnumbered from the start of the game. It's simply too wild for me to believe and I'd like to formally accuse you of either exaggerating your role or outright lying about it.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Hey, I did help bring down a Mafia yesterday. Along with Fruit's help. [and Jivvi for bringing it up <3].
I thought after helping take down a Mafia we'd be over this "let's lynch Notty" thing. I mean I just created another bomb. Which makes for a total of 3 people who take down a Mafia with them when they die. This is, assuming that I didn't place the last bomb on a Mafia and that Ender isn't the godfather. I can see where you think this is overpowered, and maybe it is. But it's the truth and this is how my role works.
I am going to vote you now. Not because omgus because that would be silly, but because I still think voting someone with a bomb is what a Mafia member would do. After all, digi did it aswell.
Vote The road to ruin
If it makes you feel better I don't really believe you have a bomb, and I also don't think you are part mafia (unless you bussed). I just think your lying, I want you to tell the truth.
My only conclusion is (if she is telling the truth) is that she is some kind of third party. It is simply too unbalanced to be any kind of town sided (or even town compatible) role. Whatever she is I'm 100 % certain she's lying and with that I have nothing to say other than protown sided people don't often claim a role like that right out of the gate. Let's say there are about 5ish mafia members. The more I think about it if you have a person who can juggle vigilante, doctor, cop, and bomb maker than I don't think any right minded host would make that make just one of the power roles the town has at it's disposal and if you had all the power roles rolled into one person I'd have to say it'd be a overwhelmingly tempting target even if it resulted in death. Factor in the cult who would have even more to gain from the whole spiel and I cannot foresee Notty being who she says she is. Liars are dangerous and not often town sided.
Let's imagine three hypothetical scenarios...
1. Notty is who she says she is.
Than why haven't the mafia and cult scrambled to eliminate her? Even with the bomb in play she only grows more dangerous by the day for them so it would be prudent to eliminate her ASAP before everyone is clutching bombs, making the mafia only able to kill at day and if so they would become more and more obvious by the day.
2. Notty is mafia
Notty's claim makes her unattractive for town to lynch and unfruitful for cult to approach (unless the bomb dosen't hurt the in which case why haven't they done that already?) With 1 member bussed and possibly 1 fake claimed innocent than we essentially are cattle being led to the slaughter. Although Notty wouldn't really be holding a bomb in this scenario I seem to be the only skeptic currently so it shouldn't dissuade the cult.
3. Notty is 3rd party
My main theory. Notty is (if she is as she claims) very decked out and so I can only imagine her goals must be difficult to achieve. If that is the case I doubt it is simply "eliminate all threats to town".
1. Notty is who she says she is.
Than why haven't the mafia and cult scrambled to eliminate her? Even with the bomb in play she only grows more dangerous by the day for them so it would be prudent to eliminate her ASAP before everyone is clutching bombs, making the mafia only able to kill at day and if so they would become more and more obvious by the day.
2. Notty is mafia
Notty's claim makes her unattractive for town to lynch and unfruitful for cult to approach (unless the bomb dosen't hurt the in which case why haven't they done that already?) With 1 member bussed and possibly 1 fake claimed innocent than we essentially are cattle being led to the slaughter. Although Notty wouldn't really be holding a bomb in this scenario I seem to be the only skeptic currently so it shouldn't dissuade the cult.
3. Notty is 3rd party
My main theory. Notty is (if she is as she claims) very decked out and so I can only imagine her goals must be difficult to achieve. If that is the case I doubt it is simply "eliminate all threats to town".
Mooglie
The Local Cow
*friendly cult update*
Presuming the Cult can recruit 1 member a night, and started with either 1 or 2 members and win with 50% majority, they have most likely gained 3+ members of the previous nights and only lost one (Duffie)
Unless Duffie was the only one capable of recruiting powers, my main 3 suspects are Notty, Caff and less so Ender. Notty and Caff both have benefits to the group (item making and protection) and the only reason I suspect Ender is due to Notty's badge.
There is most likely 3 or 4 members right now and there are 16 players, following the common 1 death per night and forced lynch a day and the cult recruits once per night, the cult will gain majority by Day 7 if none die, but it is likely that a few cult members will die along the way but the players may also decrease due to a death count similar to Night 1 leading towards it being easier for both Cult and Mafia to gain majority.
Now all we need is confirmation of who isn't cult by 77
but what happens if cult recruit 77
dun dun dun.
I think this is all correct o.o
*friendly cult update out*
I have to agree with Road that Notty is suspicious as the role is quiiite OP knowing they can make several items and would probably not be included in the game since unbalanced, but it's probably too risky to lynch them ;-;
Presuming the Cult can recruit 1 member a night, and started with either 1 or 2 members and win with 50% majority, they have most likely gained 3+ members of the previous nights and only lost one (Duffie)
Unless Duffie was the only one capable of recruiting powers, my main 3 suspects are Notty, Caff and less so Ender. Notty and Caff both have benefits to the group (item making and protection) and the only reason I suspect Ender is due to Notty's badge.
There is most likely 3 or 4 members right now and there are 16 players, following the common 1 death per night and forced lynch a day and the cult recruits once per night, the cult will gain majority by Day 7 if none die, but it is likely that a few cult members will die along the way but the players may also decrease due to a death count similar to Night 1 leading towards it being easier for both Cult and Mafia to gain majority.
Now all we need is confirmation of who isn't cult by 77
but what happens if cult recruit 77
dun dun dun.
I think this is all correct o.o
*friendly cult update out*
I have to agree with Road that Notty is suspicious as the role is quiiite OP knowing they can make several items and would probably not be included in the game since unbalanced, but it's probably too risky to lynch them ;-;
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Well scenario 1 and 3 are both happening. Since I am who I say I am and I am Third Party. I mean I get it, the role seems extremely overpowered. But it is what it is.
And truely, my win condition is as simple as be alive and eliminate all threats to the town. And to be fair I'm even going against this win condition by giving out more bombs and helping the town. Since that only makes me a target for the Mafia since I'm a threat to them. Yet I'm still doing it since helping the town is fun.
"Why haven't they killed me yet then"? Well I wouldn't know, maybe there are only few of them and they don't want one of them dying, or they just don't believe I can make any bombs at all and don't care about me. Or Jivvi protected me tonight and I'll have to thank him. Or caff protected me or something. I honestly wouldn't know.
And I'm curious about that, CaffeinatedKitty who'd you protect yesterday and today?
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Doesn't really work that way. If 77 confirms someone isn't cult, that person could just be recruited the night after. Also night actions happen after the night. Atleast thats how my actions work. So when the cult recruits someone that person gets recruited when the night is over, thus at the start of the next day.
However 77's cult killing action happens during the night I think. So if the cult were to recruit the same person that 77 attacked, 77 would hit this person first, not kill him since he's not cult, and then when the day starts this person is converted. Atleast I think thats how it should work.
And if so, whoever 77 targeted last night could very well have turned cult when the day started.
I went for Notty and if someone is converted the same night as I target them I will kill them.
I think road is slightly confused as he thought Notty was claiming town rather than third party. I must agree with him though, if you can create any item and give it away the same night, that is one op role o.o
I think road is slightly confused as he thought Notty was claiming town rather than third party. I must agree with him though, if you can create any item and give it away the same night, that is one op role o.o
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
If I give an item out the person receiving it only receives it when the night ends. So if I give it to you Tim tonight for example, if he die tonight the bomb won't explode. Which is the catch to my role iguess.