TBD [Status: GAME OVER]
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cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
Okay now that I've had some time for things to like sink in and for me to re-read some things, I can see the reasons as to why notty/ender(?)/others(?) are suspicious of road. I agree tbh.
Not quite enough for a vote for me quite yet, but eh.
Also sorry that I haven't been posting as much. Not working until Friday so I should be alllll goods to post (apart from today)
Not quite enough for a vote for me quite yet, but eh.
Also sorry that I haven't been posting as much. Not working until Friday so I should be alllll goods to post (apart from today)
So what now? Shake the inactives by the lapels and demand... what ever it is we want? I don't know what to do at this point... 77 would be worth following up on but if Notty can make an investigation item to confirm that, assuming our lie detector confirms that Notty is Hercules, that would sort that out... : /
JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
Alright, cool.
Anyways, since the discussion has really died down, I was going to post my thoughts and some theories to promote discussion and etc and possibly help improve chances of lynching a Mafia (since we really need to do that since we've only killed 1 so far...)
So last night, Inn Room D which consists of Myuser(dead), myself, Tim, and Fruit basically all "claimed" last night in the privacy of our inn room, mostly after tim asked us about it, we all claimed third-party.
Whilst I make this post I would like to keep some of these claims out of the common info for now since flooding stuff claims hasn't really done us well so far with so much confusion and the rampant lying, and will for the most part try to remain specific to certain points.
To begin, I would like to lay some basis of my own role.
For the most part of this game, you would have seen that I've been largely pro-third party, trusting basically anyone who claims third-party and supporting their claim or at least thinking they are not worth lynching (e.g. Alpha, Notty, and so on).
You would have also noticed a lot of people seem to be claiming third-party this game, we've had multiple dead, and multiple alive who have claimed such, and to a degree, it's a surprisingly large amount compared to other games where its mostly a town vs. Mafia debate. Instead, this game has largely been focused on third-parties.
I am not surprised by this, because due to my win condition, I basically need tons of third parties.
I myself am a third-party. My win condition is to keep as many third-parties alive (I need at least 3) when the game ends.
Since I want to keep as many alive as possible, I essentially try to trust any person who claims third party unless sufficient or extremely weird evidence comes up.
Though claiming now makes little sense in regards o the current events, I am doing so in order to help whittle down people who could be possible Mafia (I feel like going into cult for now is a waste of time and is just confusing us against a more important threat) as well as help make sense of what I'm about to try and theorize about.
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Now that that exposition is out of the way, my thoughts.
Although I am somewhat wary about 77 despite the third-party claim, I do have a certain degree of faith in both what 77 and Mad (who claimed lie detector).
I believe with 77's re-claim about what he can "actually do" (if we want to believe him and that he isn't lying again) we can safely say that his role name cannot be "Murderous Mason" as he claimed originally alongside its abilities.
Why? Namely because he's a third-party and not really a "Mason" which is generally a town role iirc, and he doesn't actually kill, only protects and investigates, thus loosing the "Murderous" part of his name.
I also find it kind of suspicious, even though its a really, REALLY small detail, "Murderous Mason" shows alliteration. I only really found this strange (and I must say it's probably only me) because, up to this point, based on all the people who have claimed, knowledge of my own role, and the people who have died, no role so far has alliteration like "Murderous Mason" does (certainly reminds me of Pirates v. Cowboys...)
Now my first thought last night when we claimed had to do with Fruits claim, because (although I'm actually not sure if it was a joke or not and was just added for fun or if it was the actual role claim if so then just ignore everything I've been saying) it also had a deal of alliteration which I found strange (with the reasoning said before)
Fruit claimed to be the:
But I still find it kind of strange and feel like something doesn't add up. My gut feeling leans toward Mafia but still...
In terms of the votes on road since those are quite popular at the moment...
I would say I'm kind of all for it, mainly because atm I'm focused on whittling down people based on claims (even if they have a chance of being fake, and note: I am still ignoring cult, I don't really care about arguments about the cult, they should be a target in the future but the Mafia are top priority imo)
Here are a list of current alignment claims and such from my knowledge:
Claimed Town(Dead/Alive) - 8
Claimed 3p(Dead/Alive) - 8
Mafia (Dead) - 1
Unclaimed/Unknown - 7
Despite my distrust in certain claims, I believe that a number of these (except cat cause I dont know whats going on there~) may be probably trustworthy alignment stances, at least at this present time (it's certainly a good amount of non-Mafia at least atm).
I wanted to bring up my inns claims because I thought it would be a good stance to either help back-up or spur ideas for a lynch.
Based on digi died, I wouldn't be surprised if there were different Mafia factions (I feel like the "Sexy" kind of hints at that, or it could just be the name of the faction this game, who knows).
If so, I wouldn't be surprised if most or all of these players were anti-town in some way or another. Masquerade had 4 mafia per faction, and if there were multiple (probably only 2) then this lines up perfectly (if you want to believe in these alignment claims).
If there's only 1 faction, probably around 5-6, then it still lines up a bit.
But again, its all up to personal opinion and how you stand on some of these things and how suspicious you feel they are and whatnot.
Frankly I wouldn't be surprised and atm would be happy to vote on any of these people.
It's only me, but I've felt something off with basically all of these people (except road since he just recently rejoined after taking raxo so no opinion) since the start of the game. Just call it a hunch.
Anyways, since the discussion has really died down, I was going to post my thoughts and some theories to promote discussion and etc and possibly help improve chances of lynching a Mafia (since we really need to do that since we've only killed 1 so far...)
So last night, Inn Room D which consists of Myuser(dead), myself, Tim, and Fruit basically all "claimed" last night in the privacy of our inn room, mostly after tim asked us about it, we all claimed third-party.
Whilst I make this post I would like to keep some of these claims out of the common info for now since flooding stuff claims hasn't really done us well so far with so much confusion and the rampant lying, and will for the most part try to remain specific to certain points.
To begin, I would like to lay some basis of my own role.
For the most part of this game, you would have seen that I've been largely pro-third party, trusting basically anyone who claims third-party and supporting their claim or at least thinking they are not worth lynching (e.g. Alpha, Notty, and so on).
You would have also noticed a lot of people seem to be claiming third-party this game, we've had multiple dead, and multiple alive who have claimed such, and to a degree, it's a surprisingly large amount compared to other games where its mostly a town vs. Mafia debate. Instead, this game has largely been focused on third-parties.
I am not surprised by this, because due to my win condition, I basically need tons of third parties.
I myself am a third-party. My win condition is to keep as many third-parties alive (I need at least 3) when the game ends.
Since I want to keep as many alive as possible, I essentially try to trust any person who claims third party unless sufficient or extremely weird evidence comes up.
Though claiming now makes little sense in regards o the current events, I am doing so in order to help whittle down people who could be possible Mafia (I feel like going into cult for now is a waste of time and is just confusing us against a more important threat) as well as help make sense of what I'm about to try and theorize about.
------------------------------------------
Now that that exposition is out of the way, my thoughts.
Although I am somewhat wary about 77 despite the third-party claim, I do have a certain degree of faith in both what 77 and Mad (who claimed lie detector).
I believe with 77's re-claim about what he can "actually do" (if we want to believe him and that he isn't lying again) we can safely say that his role name cannot be "Murderous Mason" as he claimed originally alongside its abilities.
Why? Namely because he's a third-party and not really a "Mason" which is generally a town role iirc, and he doesn't actually kill, only protects and investigates, thus loosing the "Murderous" part of his name.
I also find it kind of suspicious, even though its a really, REALLY small detail, "Murderous Mason" shows alliteration. I only really found this strange (and I must say it's probably only me) because, up to this point, based on all the people who have claimed, knowledge of my own role, and the people who have died, no role so far has alliteration like "Murderous Mason" does (certainly reminds me of Pirates v. Cowboys...)
Now my first thought last night when we claimed had to do with Fruits claim, because (although I'm actually not sure if it was a joke or not and was just added for fun or if it was the actual role claim if so then just ignore everything I've been saying) it also had a deal of alliteration which I found strange (with the reasoning said before)
Fruit claimed to be the:
I stated my suspicions in the inn as well, but my other suspicion was because... well... didn't we just kill someone who was "sexy?"
I know we had Alpha who was "the Sexiest man in the world" who played an alien-esq role and unless digi was a nilla, her death doesn't really show what her role is...
But I still find it kind of strange and feel like something doesn't add up. My gut feeling leans toward Mafia but still...
In terms of the votes on road since those are quite popular at the moment...
I would say I'm kind of all for it, mainly because atm I'm focused on whittling down people based on claims (even if they have a chance of being fake, and note: I am still ignoring cult, I don't really care about arguments about the cult, they should be a target in the future but the Mafia are top priority imo)
Here are a list of current alignment claims and such from my knowledge:
Number of Players: 24
Claimed Town(Dead/Alive) - 8
Claimed 3p(Dead/Alive) - 8
Mafia (Dead) - 1
Unclaimed/Unknown - 7
Despite my distrust in certain claims, I believe that a number of these (except cat cause I dont know whats going on there~) may be probably trustworthy alignment stances, at least at this present time (it's certainly a good amount of non-Mafia at least atm).
I wanted to bring up my inns claims because I thought it would be a good stance to either help back-up or spur ideas for a lynch.
Based on digi died, I wouldn't be surprised if there were different Mafia factions (I feel like the "Sexy" kind of hints at that, or it could just be the name of the faction this game, who knows).
If so, I wouldn't be surprised if most or all of these players were anti-town in some way or another. Masquerade had 4 mafia per faction, and if there were multiple (probably only 2) then this lines up perfectly (if you want to believe in these alignment claims).
If there's only 1 faction, probably around 5-6, then it still lines up a bit.
But again, its all up to personal opinion and how you stand on some of these things and how suspicious you feel they are and whatnot.
Frankly I wouldn't be surprised and atm would be happy to vote on any of these people.
It's only me, but I've felt something off with basically all of these people (except road since he just recently rejoined after taking raxo so no opinion) since the start of the game. Just call it a hunch.
JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
Basically, at least from what I think, those who are currently unknown in terms of alignment or claim or both in that quote I did.
Of course that depends if you believe peoples claims of alignment/claim/etc.
clearing stuff up. going back to breaking bad.
My name is not Murderous Mason, it's just a clever alliteration thing I came up with to make my claim seem more sound.
My protection works on abilities excluding kills, I am not a doctor to kills but I protect against converting, roleblocking etc
My investigation, I ask if a person is a cultist I get a yes/no.
also might want to start organising what is being lie detected, a lot of claims today and if notty is making an investigation item etc
My name is not Murderous Mason, it's just a clever alliteration thing I came up with to make my claim seem more sound.
My protection works on abilities excluding kills, I am not a doctor to kills but I protect against converting, roleblocking etc
My investigation, I ask if a person is a cultist I get a yes/no.
also might want to start organising what is being lie detected, a lot of claims today and if notty is making an investigation item etc
Well at current I'm set to be voted off. Though with only 3 votes on me and no other leads being the current reason I do have something to reveal. I got an item N1, an investigation module. I used it last night on Notty and it flipped up guilty. My theory was that there was an item maker out there who saw me pushing Notty, and knew who I would use it on. I was going to flip this up but... I missed when Notty claimed 3rd party and the item description makes me think it's not very 'reliable' around third parties.
So I think it's very likely we have a saboteur in this game. Someone thanked notty for an item, but it didn't come from notty.
It's a possibility that you were given a falsified item.
I'm thinking notty's role, but mafia.
It's a possibility that you were given a falsified item.
I'm thinking notty's role, but mafia.
Thanks. I thought it was Ooglie, but then I couldn't remember if he was actually in this game. And didn't feel like checking on tapatalk. But yeah, I believe there is a saboteur in this game. Meaning be skeptical of all items
JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
Here's the direct line of quotes about the knife from earlier pg 93 to 94:
If it was indeed a Saboteur, its good that Ooglie said he won't being using that, as if it works like anything as it did in Supernatural Hotel it would just kill him.
With 2 instances of these extra items (Investigation and Knife) alongside Notty's claim I would definitely say this hints at a Saboteur or some kind of similar role to Notty, possibly to combat each other (since a lot of the time there's a mix of different as well as mirrored roles like Contact v. Cop, Hooker v. Drunk, etc).oh.
well.
To avoid my similar death in SCP, I shall not use thiiiis. T'was a Knife, not sure if you can make that
Perhaps someone on the first Night died from the same thing since there seemed to be quite a bit more than usual.
If it was indeed a Saboteur, its good that Ooglie said he won't being using that, as if it works like anything as it did in Supernatural Hotel it would just kill him.
Ahh so that's why you were tunnelling Notty.
As for what JK said, I agree with him, I think we should start looking at people who haven't claimed and I'm going to throw Jolteon's name in the air because he kind of just lurks and then makes a "yeah vote for this person" towards the deadline.
I think it's worth checking out.
(Of course I may be overreacting and not remembering clearly but I'm just going to post this and then check out his posts.)
As for what JK said, I agree with him, I think we should start looking at people who haven't claimed and I'm going to throw Jolteon's name in the air because he kind of just lurks and then makes a "yeah vote for this person" towards the deadline.
I think it's worth checking out.
(Of course I may be overreacting and not remembering clearly but I'm just going to post this and then check out his posts.)
I hadn't really considered that. I had a similar role last game so I guess I kinda blocked the possibility from my mind; after all I only got a knife and key card to distribute last game. It does make sense in hindsight.