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[Nottykitten]

I don't think its a good theory, it's just how duffie writes which is fine with me.

And in the above post you can see there is no emoticon.... OR IS THERE ITS IN HER SIGNATURE JUST LIKE WITH MASTER

 

[Hunter]

literally every post since jolt's post-zalgo reply contains "xD" or, in one case, "xP", usually at the end of a line

coincidence? i think not

Kay... I think that's all of what's directed toward me..?

thanks, i forgot one. glad you caught it

Kay... I think that's all of what's directed toward me..?

Honestly, I can die happy now, because that actually made my day. xD

 

[Jolterino]

I dislike zalgo, and didn't even know it was called that until Tim (I think it was Tim) brought it up. xD

So you disregarded my post because of a dislike of Zalgo?

 

[Enderfive]

Votecount - No tears, only xD now.

Nottykitten (4/10) - Jolteon42, Erik5456, Jivvi, Hunter
Jolteon42 (6/10) - Nottykitten, Duffie, Ooglie101, Tim, CaffeinatedKitty, Notme
Notme (1/10) - Aqua

Deadline: Tuesday 19 January 22:00:00 GMT

 

[Mastersten]

do you have to end every line in an "xD" variant similar to mastersten's alcoholism

You often make jokes about problems of people or is this an acusement
Vote hunter
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[Duffie]

So you disregarded my post because of a dislike of Zalgo?

I disregard your belief that it's me that caused you to post a random poem in zalgo text.

I guess I can partially believe you being silenced, but I still think it's a silly ploy. If it's not, I congratulate whoever silenced you, because they officially made me happy to be apart of this game again.

 

[JKangaroo]

Hunter stated

my theory:
to avoid suspicion, samlen en duffie began questioning jolt. Then one of them "silenced" jolt so he couldnt defend himself from this questioning so people bandwagoned with samlen and duffie.

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But, if they were questioning Jolt, why would either of them "silence" Jolt? They both had (in my opinion) decent arguments against Jolt.
The last thing you want to do is "silence" him, because it just allows Jolt to do what he just did, try to throw the suspicion back on them because of the poem post. I feel both Notty and Duffie, if they even had this "silence" power, are veteran players enough not to do such a silly move especially if it only lasts "a real day."

And can I just say Jolt being "silenced" for a day makes no sense.
I would be more inclined to believe Jolt if he didn't talk for the rest of the in-game Mafia day, because such powers have existed in the past.
Take TBD for example where I was the Devilish-Businessman. I had the power to force X players to vote how I wanted them to vote, by simply telling the host what I wanted them to do.
This lasted the entire day. They could not do anything to prevent it.

In an IRC/epicmafia setting I can see how a "real-life timed" power may be able to work if such a role existed.
In a forum setting? Where we all have vastly differing timezones and can't view the thread at certain hours and people post at widely differing times?
In a setting where it's incredibly difficult to be precise with "real-life" timed roles like Jolt is claiming? Where Priz may not even had read the thing and sent a PM about it to Jolt? (as I believe Ooglie has mentioned before?)

I honestly don't see at all how anyone is buying this.
It's literally a cop-out. It makes no sense and still doesn't explain WHY he even posted the strange poem in the first place (I still don't see how that was explained)
If it's involved in the "silencing" that was supposedly done why would a poem need to be even posted in the first place?

And isn't it strangely coincidental that the person who wrote that poem just so happened to have the exact same first name as Notty claims to have?

The content of the poem doesn't matter until we know the context of the poem.
And as far as I can tell, the poem has no context, and this is all a big charade.
I wanted to give Jolt the benefit of the doubt. I don't think I can anymore after his explanation.

Vote Jolteon

 

[Jolterino]

I honestly don't see at all how anyone is buying this.
It's literally a cop-out. It makes no sense and still doesn't explain WHY he even posted the strange poem in the first place (I still don't see how that was explained)
If it's involved in the "silencing" that was supposedly done why would a poem need to be even posted in the first place?

And isn't it strangely coincidental that the person who wrote that poem just so happened to have the exact same first name as Notty claims to have?

My opinion is that the poem is like flavour text to the silence. I didn't exactly have the choice to not post the poem.

I don't see why the author of the poem is so important anyway, it's just a coincidence as you said.

 

[Mooglie]

My opinion is that the poem is like flavour text to the silence. I didn't exactly have the choice to not post the poem.

So part of the silence was that you HAD to post the poem or was that a hint?

 

[Jolterino]

So part of the silence was that you HAD to post the poem or was that a hint?

Both.

 

[erik5456]

Ok can we just be logical for 2 seconds please? I really feel like we should lynch samlen at this point. He mentions having seen other people's names and them being flavoured. He posts some stuff before jolt is silenced and then seems to try and lynch jolt. Although you did "answer" my question before I feel like you just dodged it in reality. And people since when is jolt creative enough to search that type of poem and randomly post it like honestly? And if this was a tactic then why come out now and not hard say you know who did it? And regarding the 24 hours and it having been 20 hours since the poem maybe it took 4 hours between the time the person sent in the action and the time prizyms logged on and told jolt what he could and couldn't do.
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Vote samlen

 

[Nottykitten]

Also it could very well be that Jolt got the idea about pretending to be silenced from when people were wondering if Cat could post or not.

 

[Mooglie]

Both

But then,

This still stands. Stop with the poetry/distorted text please

Priz said the poetry and distorted text to stop after Notty posted as well. If this was supposedly something that /had/ to happen then why was it classified as shitposting (note that the quote is in response to notty saying that maybe people should stop shitposting)? I also don't like how vague the 'both' answer was and you're probably going to respond to this By abusing that.
The only answer is a slip & slide and that this whole silence thing is a big ol' ploy to try and create a diversion from your scuminess!

 

[JKangaroo]

Ok can we just be logical for 2 seconds please? I really feel like we should lynch samlen at this point. He mentions having seen other people's names and them being flavoured. He posts some stuff before jolt is silenced and then seems to try and lynch jolt. Although you did "answer" my question before I feel like you just dodged it in reality. And people since when is jolt creative enough to search that type of poem and randomly post it like honestly? And if this was a tactic then why come out now and not hard say you know who did it? And regarding the 24 hours and it having been 20 hours since the poem maybe it took 4 hours between the time the person sent in the action and the time prizyms logged on and told jolt what he could and couldn't do.
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Vote samlen

Can you quote that?
I don't remember Sam saying he saw other people's role-names and that they were flavoured?
And what was the question he dodged? I can't find it. Sorry, a lot of the stuff today seems to be... all over the place? For lack of a better term.

And we still don't actually know if Jolt was silenced or not. It's not confirmed and I doubt we can even confirm it at this point.
It still seems like an incredibly weird mechanics that he could even be silenced.
Also being skeptical about it is logical in my eyes.

 

[Samlen]

Ok can we just be logical for 2 seconds please? I really feel like we should lynch samlen at this point. He mentions having seen other people's names and them being flavoured. He posts some stuff before jolt is silenced and then seems to try and lynch jolt. Although you did "answer" my question before I feel like you just dodged it in reality. And people since when is jolt creative enough to search that type of poem and randomly post it like honestly? And if this was a tactic then why come out now and not hard say you know who did it? And regarding the 24 hours and it having been 20 hours since the poem maybe it took 4 hours between the time the person sent in the action and the time prizyms logged on and told jolt what he could and couldn't do.

I'm sorry if my answer didn't satisfy you, I really thought that more people had mentioned having flavoured rolenames than not. And as for going after Jolt during the whole 'silencing' affair, did you not notice how I unvoted him during that time? And that last sentence is diving into PM mechanics so I'm not even going to talk about it. (Though I'm admittedly dubious about Jolt actually being silenced, that's just surrounded by strange circumstances in general).

 

[Hunter]

Nottykitten wait do both of you receive investigation results at the start of the next day, or just the one investigating?

 

[Nottykitten]

Nottykitten wait do both of you receive investigation results at the start of the next day, or just the one investigating?

Both of us, it will be told in the nightchat.

 

[Hunter]

Nottykitten are you a boy or a girl

 

[Hunter]

Also Ooglie101 if priz was referring to the poems then maybe jolt didn't have to zalgo it?
catgirl12466 Watermelon1388 where'd you go

 

[Hunter]

just had a brainwave
Nottykitten i'm still not 100% confirmed townie to everyone, apparently, though I am confirmed to self, so maybe investigate me if you have any doubts? though it would be a waste
one of duffie/jolt "jails" me to protect
watcher watches me to confirm visits
non-roleblocking doctor docs watcher
any live tracker tracks one of the above
investigations bypass "jailing" according to claims
if notty dies overnight then their story is either confirmed or discredited, if confirmed then other partner knows i am town
if watcher is blocked then tracker can confirm visits
if cop is blocked then watcher can confirm visits

better idea:
alternatively one of you two duffie/jolt can jail notty, the other jails me, watcher on notty and secondary cop on whoever, really. notty would out report next day

tl;dr one "jailer" on confirmed inno (me) other "jailer" on notty, notty outs report

no matter what happens we get a report the next day.

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[Hunter]

erik5456 can you watch self

 

[Hunter]

yeah Duffie claims that he roleblocked me but I cannot confirm that.

what did you mean by this? notty also claimed to investigate you, is that not confirm-able either?

What the ability is I will not say, I can say though that its not that usefull. We can be a bit annoying to the mafia if we choose right, but that's it. We can't kill, we were not responsible for any of the deaths last night in case you were wondering. But what we can do I'll have to keep secret, I'm sure you can understand. It's one of those weird abilities that become mostly useless once the mafia knows what it is. Feel free to speculate on what it is, but I won't tell you it

Investigation isn't a weird ability at all!

 

[77thShad]

what did you mean by this? notty also claimed to investigate you, is that not confirm-able either?

I'm was just saying I cant confirm or deny that I was roleblocked (eg being a cop and not receiving a report or actually receiving a report).

 

[Nottykitten]

On phone right now so wont quote and gonna sleep right after so this will be my last post.

No I dont think its a good idea becausr we should lynch jolt today as I dont believe his jailingness. And duffie would be more usefull trying to block the nightkill.

 

[Deleted member 4601]

There's a lot of information for me to digest, so this is gonna take a while -

I'm incredibly Indecisive about a vote between notty and Jolt, since everything ties in so perfectly even if both of them are town aligned.

My original stand about notty still stands; with the full role claim it's not hard to conclude that she is probably a townie since her actions so far along with her claims are incredibly coherent. The failure to investigate 77th on the first night led her to vote for him when the day started - it all adds up, and the possibility of losing all of our investigative roles means that a notty lynch is a bad idea. The only thing that's missing is that unnamed partner of hers (God knows who xP) which I honestly think doesn't really matter.

Then there's Jolt, who has been acting weird and all since the start of the day. But his role claim seems to make perfect sense to me - Notty as an active speaker renders her as incredibly vulnerable as a potential target to anyone, intentional or not. And for a jailer, it still adds up. There's a catch, however, that Jolt might be a hooker, with the evidence coming from his (or should I say her?) name. But honestly, I seriously doubt that in the case where Jolt is a hooker, he'd be stupid enough to fake claim with his original name. Lynching Jolt might be detrimental to us, and should probably be avoided.

That's all I've got from reading through the posts that looked important to me. A little undecided until something of great importance that points to another suspect. No lynch is unfavourable, but even more so is a lynch on a power role.