Toco Toucan
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We did contribute in addition to shitpost if you'd bother to read.
>Making it sound like Psycho's helpless.
This is THE issue with this community now.
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and you think a Public Call-out thread is OK for admins to create, but if the users who are complaining about their posts being deleted should just "PM an admin" ?
Jayfeather
Gay Magician
and you guys wonder why people are "mean" this is absolutely the dumbest opinion i've ever read in the past year
edit: i think hes memeing i got fuckin MEMED on press f bad word to pay respects
Toco Toucan
Member
There never is.
Justify or you're trolling
I say this because of proportion. There's only a few admins but there's so many players. If an admin wants to get a message out, they should just create a thread. However, for the opposite, they should just PM an admin instead, not make a public broadcast.
Look at this thread. It's a 1:x thing, where x is the intended audience (people who shitpost, etc). But when it comes to an admin removing a post or and you want to straighten it out, it's a 1:1 thing. So yeah. Sorry about the ratios, I can't explain it better in words.
yes but the problem is is that the admins IN THIS POST want to talk to 5 people specifically. It is entirely possible to include several admins and all members within that conversation.
If this was a a global reference, then sure, whatever, but this post is talking to 5 people, and should ONLY be addressed to those 5, which can be done within a PRIVATE conversation, not open publicly for everyone to judge.
The admins aren't perfect and mistake-proof, and here, Psycho posting this publicly was a mistake, one even he admits to making in the original post.
4. No trolling, flaming, inciting hatred or instigating flame bait is permitted.
This is where the thread should have ended.
It's a rather telling situation when the Admins will cry on the forums instead of talking to members with which they have issue. It really encapsulates the issues within this community.
Mastersten
In Omnia Paratus
I think that only the fact this thread is made, says enough where we collectively are.
(and I think everyone here has posted valid opinions about it so I'm not gonna put on a bs story about how I think about this all and how it makes me feel).
(and I think everyone here has posted valid opinions about it so I'm not gonna put on a bs story about how I think about this all and how it makes me feel).
SirComputer
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First, everyone go and read Vat's post.
Now, perhaps this thing could have been handled better months ago, with better forum staffing, with more PMs etc, and, if they had the ability to, more help from the forum mods. That'd give them something to do. However, let's stop going on about the existence of this thread, or how it was phrased, or if it attacked you, and focus on the real issues we should be talking about here. Perhaps we could ask our very nice admins to lay off the censoring just for this thread at least, seeing as the context these words are being used in is not racist at all (so using Rule 2 as an argument is rubbish), it's being used to get a point across, and if you don't stop you have 10 posts criticising you for the censoring. Oh, it wastes your time too.
Sorry if I'm not forming proper sentences here.
Now, perhaps this thing could have been handled better months ago, with better forum staffing, with more PMs etc, and, if they had the ability to, more help from the forum mods. That'd give them something to do. However, let's stop going on about the existence of this thread, or how it was phrased, or if it attacked you, and focus on the real issues we should be talking about here. Perhaps we could ask our very nice admins to lay off the censoring just for this thread at least, seeing as the context these words are being used in is not racist at all (so using Rule 2 as an argument is rubbish), it's being used to get a point across, and if you don't stop you have 10 posts criticising you for the censoring. Oh, it wastes your time too.
Sorry if I'm not forming proper sentences here.
Blocktopia/EscapeRestart has been dead for ages now because of shit like this, it's turned in to 4chan.org/b/locktopia. The people who played back in 2010-2013 have either moved on or stayed and become closet trolls. The few old players who still visit here every now and then do it purely for nostalgia and the current player base has devolved from what it once was.
mariosatr
Imperator Romanus Sacer
Consider situations where people have had banter in the past between themselves (when referring to the n-word, I don't recall anyone using that out of the ones called out at least and I would agree that if people used it even in banter, it should be removed, because there is some stuff that goes too far). Literally no-one else cared.
And, as such, I don't understand why these kinds of profile posts have been removed. The only people concerned, and the only people it is directed towards, are their friends, who clearly aren't offended. Also, have you ever heard of anyone being seriously offended on these forums by said banter? If there's a good example, show me it and this point becomes invalid, but otherwise, it's harmless.
I agree that there's a threshold of "banter" that goes too far, but this threshold was not initially reached, and it only went too far when it was blown out of proportion by all the post removals and stuff, which should not have happened in the first place.
So in conclusion - why limit what people can do if it does not harm others? This simple problem has gone way further than it should have. Just let people do what they want for most the part and stop them the moment others actually begin to make a big deal out of it, rather than based on what you think is allowed and not allowed (which is heavily subjective, everyone has their own ideas). If this is left be, with no more of the censoring, then people won't remember this happened a couple of months on.
The divisions within the community that Vino was talking about are another problem entirely, though.
And, as such, I don't understand why these kinds of profile posts have been removed. The only people concerned, and the only people it is directed towards, are their friends, who clearly aren't offended. Also, have you ever heard of anyone being seriously offended on these forums by said banter? If there's a good example, show me it and this point becomes invalid, but otherwise, it's harmless.
I agree that there's a threshold of "banter" that goes too far, but this threshold was not initially reached, and it only went too far when it was blown out of proportion by all the post removals and stuff, which should not have happened in the first place.
So in conclusion - why limit what people can do if it does not harm others? This simple problem has gone way further than it should have. Just let people do what they want for most the part and stop them the moment others actually begin to make a big deal out of it, rather than based on what you think is allowed and not allowed (which is heavily subjective, everyone has their own ideas). If this is left be, with no more of the censoring, then people won't remember this happened a couple of months on.
The divisions within the community that Vino was talking about are another problem entirely, though.
Aqua
Does anybody remember laughter?
Some people apparently don't even know what's going on and yet feel the need to spout their opinion.
nobody said either of those words once (to my knowledge), the only time it has been brought up was when ender used it as an example.
Now onto Oak; only one person has ever trolled once during this escapade (not including everything pace has ever done... ever, since really he's not involved in this),was jolt yesterday morning when he made that post to deliberately call out psycho. Other than that, I don't see anybody else trolling? "what are you fucking gay?" targeted at Noah, Jolts friend who previously before posting was on skype with us using that trash meme. "Enjoy the pussy" posted on paces profile; not offensive, not trolling not even breaking a single forum rule and yet my post was deleted, and I received a "stop or demotion message".
Right, I'd like to point out that Jolt has apologised, and I know it seems rich coming from me, but we should really try and keep this thread on track to see if we can work out some middle ground and maybe inprove blocktopia/escaperestart for the better, instead of circlejerking about irrelevant shit like ender using the n- word, which, if I may, was quoting to make an example, so is perfectly justified.
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I feel like the issue is kinda being ignored. I don't see anything wrong with making a few (what might be considered) inappropriate jokes between friends, maybe making them on the forums isn't the greatest idea since we have a certain standard and as a community we've always sorta kinda cater to a younger audience of people? Is that still a thing? I don't think the issues brought up here are A) Warrant of a thread B) Worthy of this much discussion, I think this thread proves that the individuals addressed are capable of having and adult conversation in a PM.
I think the real issues are Staff communication amongst themselves on how to use their authority and when to use it, and they need to relay what is deemed as appropriate and inappropriate on the forums to the community, things aren't always black and white and people have different ideals and interpretations of the rules. In my eyes, the real concern has always been the people who make posts for the sake of being actively malicious and I think only one of them was actually mentioned in the OP.
I think for now everyone needs to step back and calm down, the people in this thread may need to consider the types of posts they're making a bit more, while staff should reassess how they deal with situations like these and should come up with a clear and concise consensus.
I think the real issues are Staff communication amongst themselves on how to use their authority and when to use it, and they need to relay what is deemed as appropriate and inappropriate on the forums to the community, things aren't always black and white and people have different ideals and interpretations of the rules. In my eyes, the real concern has always been the people who make posts for the sake of being actively malicious and I think only one of them was actually mentioned in the OP.
I think for now everyone needs to step back and calm down, the people in this thread may need to consider the types of posts they're making a bit more, while staff should reassess how they deal with situations like these and should come up with a clear and concise consensus.
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Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. This is the optimum way to discuss relevant issues and not give ammunition to bad actors. Do not engage in ad hominem, do not even talk about people, talk about ideas.~tb
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actually just forgot to quote him sorry
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