The Red Scare [Game Over]

[HKCaper]

Okay, since the whole is Ooglie Joseph thing is going on, I guess there is no harm in saying that I am almost sure they arent mafia:

1. Well ye, if Ooglie is Joseph, Ooglie aint anything so...
2. Ooglie was the first (with Inffy, but I think Ooglie was slightly faster) to really suspect Aqua, as you can see in the figure I reposted from Foggy.

Than moving on to Iggish. Although I had suspicions on Iggish before (hell I even voted him at one point) I don't think he is mafia anymore, since he posted this:

Also, am I the only one who thinks that aqua might be the vigilante?

Ye, that post. If he was mafia, surely he would not have said this (unless Ender/Aqua set him up to this, since they were the ones to point out the mistake Iggish made, but that is too much of a conspiracy theory to actually be possible I think :/ )

Mhm that's it for now, stay tuned, cus I might be back later.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Than moving on to Iggish. Although I had suspicions on Iggish before (hell I even voted him at one point) I don't think he is mafia anymore, since he posted this:

Ye, that post. If he was mafia, surely he would not have said this (unless Ender/Aqua set him up to this, since they were the ones to point out the mistake Iggish made, but that is too much of a conspiracy theory to actually be possible I think :/ )

Mhm that's it for now, stay tuned, cus I might be back later.

Wait I'm confused, why don't you think he'd say that as mafia?

 

[HKCaper]

Wait I'm confused, why don't you think he'd say that as mafia?

He would have known it not to be true, since if he were mafia he would have know Aqua was mafia. And I do not think he said that with any cheeky intentions, but purely because it was just a random though he had.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

He would have known it not to be true, since if he were mafia he would have know Aqua was mafia. And I do not think he said that with any cheeky intentions, but purely because it was just a random though he had.

But if he was mafia with aqua then it'd do him good to make people think he was town pr. And he could easily have said it as a mindgame to make him think he doesn't know aqua's role.

 

[HKCaper]

But if he was mafia with aqua then it'd do him good to make people think he was town pr. And he could easily have said it as a mindgame to make him think he doesn't know aqua's role.

Here is the way I see it,

1. It is what you mention in the quote. Result: Aqua, Iggish and Ender are/were mafia and they set this up for a cheeky strat.
2. Iggy is town.

I'd much rather believe option 2 to be true, but that is just my 'vibes' I guess.

 

[Mooglie]

welp ive tried to formulate a coherent sentence in response but
yes i am mccarthy
no i did not try to recruit foggy
i tried to recruit mulb who hey is mafia but also dead

stuff in mind:
notty might be mafia (who may/may not have been recruited by commy leader) who is bussing fellow mafia member (foggy to appear) to appear inno
notty might be commyguy and has recruited a mafia who outed their whole team in night chat to appear inno and intends for vig to kill
notty (if commyguy) would see if a dead person flipped patriot (mulb) so they didnt even need to visit me tonight to see who i recruited

either way dont trust notty
ive essentially lost this game now BUT idk what to do since i am literally in the worst possible position right now (presuming foggy does flip mafia)
my lonely 1 patriot can come forward if they want but yeah gg iguess
(im genuinely angry rn this role is terrible and if you think for one second me and notty were RANDOMISED against eachother then no)

i know i could have claimed to not be mccarthy and that would probably be in my best interest but here i am

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Well, this is interesting...

 

[Infected_alien8_]

(Also yay I've eaten now)

RE the igg thing about talking about who the vigilante is, this is the second time he's done that I believe, and it does kinda concern me as to why he thought it was okay to help mafia figure out who the PR could be (but I mean he's probably wrong anyway since like I said I doubt vig would make it that obvious, or am I just using mindgames to steer you away from me since I had suspicion on mulb and am vigilante, WHO KNOWS!!!!11one!)

Also I'm the patriot with oog and can confirm that he didn't recuit foggy last night (since he's not in the chat and he tried to recruit mulb), so I'm guessing notty's thing is some kind of mindgame or something idk I'm mega confused

 

[HKCaper]

While I am at it I would also like to react to something TWG blurted out a bit ago:

That moment a mafia voted for you and you for a mafia, yet someone still suspects me.

I'd like to point out that Mulb also voted Aqua, and she did not change her vote last second to join the hype, no. The votecount after her vote shows it was 5-5 between Aqua and TWG. In addition Mulb made quite extensive posts explaining why she suspected Aqua, and why he was maf instead of Inffy (yes Inffy, not TWG, didnt know if people were gonna think I messed up here, since I was talking about TWG in the previous sentences).

Once again TWG made a very bold statement, just saying quite of a 'random' (couldnt come up with the right word to put here) without actually responding to anything that happend.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

notty might be commyguy and has recruited a mafia who outed their whole team in night chat to appear inno and intends for vig to kill
notty (if commyguy) would see if a dead person flipped patriot (mulb) so they didnt even need to visit me tonight to see who i recruited

Can you explain this again because I'm confused

 

[HKCaper]

Well, this is interesting...

Amen to that.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Okay, so based on what Infected, Ooglie and Notty have said we know that Notty and Ooglie for sure are cult leaders, or that they are trying to make it look like it, because they all are mafias?

 

[Nottykitten]

ive essentially lost this game now BUT idk what to do since i am literally in the worst possible position right now (presuming foggy does flip mafia)

I mean it sucks that you happened to recruit a Mafia the night I tried to convert you.

no i did not try to recruit foggy
i tried to recruit mulb who hey is mafia but also dead

Liar liar liar! How convenient that your aliby is that you happened to 'recruit' one of the two dead people last night. Let's see if people will fall for it Joseph.

Also I'm the patriot with oog and can confirm that he didn't recuit foggy last night (since he's not in the chat and he tried to recruit mulb), so I'm guessing notty's thing is some kind of mindgame or something idk I'm mega confused

I expected you would be the first when I learned Oog was Joseph. You and I both know that the newbie only gets added to the chat the next night, as was with my lonely member. They do get informed at daystart as far as I've understood. I think you're town, and you still have the town win condition so you shouldn't be lying.

 

[HKCaper]

Can you explain this again because I'm confused

I think we all are at this point (except Notty and various scum)

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I expected you would be the first when I learned Oog was Joseph. You and I both know that the newbie only gets added to the chat the next night, as was with my lonely member. They do get informed at daystart as far as I've understood. I think you're town, and you still have the town win condition so you shouldn't be lying.

Well no, I got added in the morning on mine, and got welcomed by ltin, and then could only respond at night.

Ltin is there some kind of mix up or is notty lying I'M SO CONFUSED

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also who's the other member of the communists?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also I love how oog has been called Joseph three times in mafia now (russian mafia, paradise city and here)

it's a SIGN

 

[Nottykitten]

Also who's the other member of the communists?

It would be in my best interrest not to out them. They can out themselves if they want but I doubt they will since I have a slight suspicion they're Mafia themselves.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

It would be in my best interrest not to out them. They can out themselves if they want but I doubt they will since I have a slight suspicion they're Mafia themselves.

Why do you have a slight suspicion they're mafia themselves, and why does it benefit you if they don't out? Surely it adds to your argument to prove you're telling the truth, and since cults aren't linked to mafia vs town then it's not like the mafia will purposefully kill your cult member or anything right?

 

[Mooglie]

Liar liar liar! How convenient that your aliby is that you happened to 'recruit' one of the two dead people last night. Let's see if people will fall for it Joseph.

liar liar pants on fire!

 

[Mooglie]

Can you explain this again because I'm confused

you see thats what idk but i just thought i would provide all the food for thought so other people who are smarter can figure it out

 

[Mooglie]

(triple post)
but yeah can confirmerino that inf is my patriot buddy

 

[Nottykitten]

Why do you have a slight suspicion they're mafia themselves, and why does it benefit you if they don't out? Surely it adds to your argument to prove you're telling the truth, and since cults aren't linked to mafia vs town then it's not like the mafia will purposefully kill your cult member or anything right?

I think they're Mafia since they had their vote on Weak when the day ended(and I'm not giving you more info than that).

If they are town, they can't really help my argument since I was the one who was told about the converting and Foggys role, not the communists chat. If they're Mafia they can lie about it to try and save their fellow Mafia member, but at that point if either Foggy or them dies and flips Mafia the other will surely be killed. I don't see them revealing themselves in either scenario.

Infact I didn't even tell them who I was planning to convert because I'm a conspiracy theorist and I wanted to protect myself from the following situation: "Me and Joseph both recruited a Mafia. The Mafia then decides that they'll side with Joseph, and in turn for Josephs vote during the day they will kill the person I wanted to convert". I know that situation is super far-fetched and was unlikely to be true, but I just wanted to be sure that I wasn't allowing the Mafia to control me. They didn't like it that I didn't tell them who I was converting but ohwell my choice. Maybe I shouldn't have kept it to myself and allow them to decide with me because then I wouldn't be behind 1 communist to 2 patriots.

 

[Nottykitten]

I think they're Mafia since they had their vote on Weak when the day ended(and I'm not giving you more info than that).

If they are town, they can't really help my argument since I was the one who was told about the converting and Foggys role, not the communists chat. If they're Mafia they can lie about it to try and save their fellow Mafia member, but at that point if either Foggy or them dies and flips Mafia the other will surely be killed. I don't see them revealing themselves in either scenario.

How convenient that you have nobody to prove your claim, if you're third party why should anyone believe you.

I mean it's true I don't expect everyone to just blindly follow me, I'm just telling what I know and hope that Oog will get killed by the Vig once I've proven I'm helpfull to the town.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also I found the other time iggish tried to talk about the vigilante:

Also, am I the only one who thinks that aqua might be the vigilante?
First of all, inf and aqua are going at it pretty hard so I doubt that.



Secondly, that famous slip that inf is constantly going on about (reinforces my resolve that they are not working together). Aqua's use of "my actions" in reference to Hip. Aqua's defence was that they were tired and so made that mistake instead of saying their. Well, you being tired could be the exact reason you typed it also, with your guard being down.

It seems to click into place when I look back at it. Idk though, just thoughts.

naming a potential vig is not the smartest move, may i remind you

ANYWAY

Here's my theory for what's going on with notty:

She tried to convert oog and found he was joseph

She wants him dead

She's already convinced that fog is maf (see: yesterday) so made up a story to get us to lynch fog to make it seem like she was telling the truth about ooglie being the cult leader so that the vigilante kills the cult leader and she wins the game