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Since when does foggy visit though, I'm very confused, and why does foggy visiting mafia mean mafia can say he wasn't visited and so foggy is proven, this is confusing me lots, Create has a command called /plots.
Oh, forgot that foggy could be proven if he is right about that we will get split into different pms. Forget what I said there
 

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Ok, If I can have everybody elses attention, due to the fact that I believe we all have beautiful titles, and the ones that are CONFIRMED so far are Captain and Executive Officer, is it still just me that thinks the role 'Tracker' seems a little off? I don't know what your roles are, but if you have a role name similar to the vanilla roles I would be interested to know... that is all for now.
Okay, I just caught up with the discussion.

I want to say, in regards to this, and the fact that there are "ranks," E.g. the XO or Captain, I do believe the ranks are what our role-names are essentially called (and I just want to say, I went back to look at my role, I totally missed the fact that I too have a rank; holy hell how am I completely blind, how did I miss that).
Thus, I believe that is what will show up when a player dies, with a description of their abilities alongside it, like with what happened to hip.

That's just a theory anyways, because I know if I were to claim, I would claim myself as a vanilla role, because that is essentially what I know it to be, and how I would describe it as.
If the roles are tied somewhat tied to rank, which could also easily be doubtful considering Arelic was "promoted" (although do we know if promotions possibly lead to a change in abilities? Or if they serve a special purpose like with hips win condition/Foggy's ability?), but if they are, then me claiming my rank wouldn't say much at all to what my actual role is.

Okay I'm just making this all convoluted: I would say my role is vanilla, so it is possible, yes.
I can easily claim if you would like me to show what I mean; although I don't necessarily see a reason to do so at this point in time, though some might disagree in the future.
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Anyways, onto thoughts of the day?

Honestly, I think we already know how this day is going to end, unless something drastically new happens, which could be possible, but I doubt it.

I trust HK; honestly I feel like there's been quite a bit of soft-claiming (I don't know if its purposeful or not) and I think I already have an idea on what role they are, or at least aspects from certain vanilla roles that HK might have. Some parts have me confused based on what I think HK's role might be, but otherwise I think it's a bit easy to read into. I don't think I'll say what I think it is since HK doesn't want to claim yet and fishing out wild ideas might not be the wisest thing to do to protect a possible town PR; but I think I have a fairly good read on it, and trust HK for the moment as I don't see it as very "incriminating."

E.g. see this by Notty:
I'll claim since why not it seems like I have a cop claim against me I don't have much choice. I am the tracker. I can track someone during the night and see who that player visited. I tracked Hk last night and surprise surprise he visited me.
I may have missed it, but I don't think I've seen Notty say anything wrong with HK visiting her last night; just that HK "visited."
But-- did anything happen? Usually visits in Mafia games result in either death from the hands of mafia/vig/etc, investigations from cop/etc, doctor protection, etc. But nothing happened that we know of.
Since we don't quite have enough information, although again I may have missed it because Inffy's posts have made me so confused this day, I don't see that as something that's incriminating at all at this point in time, and that's even if it's true in the first place. It's something we should keep in mind, but as its the very first day, and nothing else really points to HK at all, I don't see it as something we should really be worrying about at this moment.
If anything, it's just a misdirection/desperate bid to get attention elsewhere.

In other news; after Foggy said they can promote people and have multiple actions they can give to people (like... I dont know.. they assign tasks to lower ranks?) and since we knew Hip's role's goal was to become Captain--- I thought it was safe to assume Foggy would claim captain at some point, which did happen.
I'm... worried though. I imagine captain's the highest rank in the game based on hip's role, and thus one of the most powerful roles I'd imagine. If it can't be protected, then it might've been bad to claim so early, especially if certain roles specifically focus on player's ranks, like Hip's was; can certain people steal ranks? Maybe they change ranks by killing certain players? Again, I feel like ranks are inherently tied to our roles, so maybe our roles change as we gain ranks?

It's all speculation at this point (or I'm just reading too much into things that aren't there).

But at the same time, and I think either Inffy or myuser mentioned this idea earlier; the idea that Hip's condition was to becoming "acting" captain, so maybe if Foggy dies his abilities will pass along to the next person to become captain? Like its a changeable role that can be passed along; maybe becoming less/more powerful as the days progress?
If so, it's a very interesting idea for a mafia game role, and would be useful in weeding out anti-townies (although; I also wonder if acting captain can be passed along to mafiosos?)
...There's so much about the ranks that could happen; I'm really wondering how they actually work.

I--- don't think there's anything else to talk about?
I guess--- Arelic?
They're just sort of a pawn of Foggy at the moment; nothing really proves their alignment/etc. Just that Foggy's ability went through last night and explains how we got to this moment in the game.

Also,
Vote Notty,
because again, I think we know how this day will end already, and I feel like there's enough evidence/information there that doesn't quite add up to Notty being innocent.
 

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Okay so now that most of my pressing and digging for information is probably over with for today, I decided to organize my thoughts and put them here for both myself to look back on and anyone else who is confused about the situation and could use this to get a grasp on what's going on (as well as my conclusions drawn from it); reasons for Notty being mafia include a cop report, and an apparent false accusation (HK), and reasons for Notty being innocent are the fact she is uncc tracker, which I suppose could just mean there isn't a tracker in the game and my theory on the reasoning behind fog's role's existence is wrong, and unlikely theories of how the false accusation and cop report came about, a type of fish is a rainbow trout.

I don't believe it likely that HK is lying one one hand because it'd be suicidal to do what he's doing now if he's mafia and Notty is innocent, same with foggy, (unless Notty's role has been altered to appear as evil upon death but to make such an assumption would be a bad idea in this early stage of the game), but on the other hand I believe HK could be lying because he seemed to push hard for Notty's lynch based on the fact he could "100%" know for sure Notty was mafia, then later saying he couldn't when I asked for details, which I find odd and sounds like he just wanted Notty dead and hoped we'd just take his word for his certainty of her scuminess and lynch her, but he gave his reasons for what he did and though I don't quite follow his thought process I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, though I am a bit suspicious of him, and will certainly be advocating to lynch him tomorrow if Notty dies today and is innocent, and his name is not Tim.

My only third suspect so far is a small vibe-based one on Unusual_Dood, yes that dude, but to push for his lynch day 1 just because of this would be crude.

Conclusion; it is probably safest bet to lynch Notty as it's more likely she is mafia and we get information from her death, yes when she dies and her body, up to Heaven or Hell, flies.

I'm still going to wait for Notme's post because who knows, maybe he has some game-changing information, and I'd like to hear what people like JKangaroo and Mulbery and TheWeakGuy48_ think, and I'd like myusername22's updated thoughts, but I think it looks like I'll be voting Notty today if Notme doesn't have anything to say because voting Notty relies on 'facts' brought to the table but not voting Notty relies on just a theory of mine about the setup having a tracker because of fog's role being true, the sky is blue. But of course depending on what others bring up this could change, like the guns used at a shooting range.

And yes I know this post is ugly but I can't use bold because my rhymes use bold so I had to colour code, so I went into art mode.
This post is so much worse when not on tapatalk
It looks like a ransom note.
Nottykitten - 6 - Foggy2406, Arelic, HKCaper, K1ngHoward, Webpaige, JKangaroo
Infected_alien8_ - 1 - Nottykitten
With 15 players it takes 8 to lynch and 8 to no lynch
 

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Okay, so I've read and caught up. I've had plenty of time to think this over, and I still think the only thing that fits is the bus driver theory. Hk will never be able to account for 100% of all scenarios, but if he is willing to guarantee it can't be a bus driver scenario then I feel safe voting for Notty. However, this puts it at a 50/50 between Notty and Hk, and if Notty flips up inno I think we can be '100% certain' Hk is mafia. I've no clues as to what HK's role could be, but it sounds like he has guaranteed a bus driver doesn't make sense, and that's good for me.

The votes on Notty are piling up, but before the day ends I'd like to put out some thoughts.
First: It's still possible Notty is a mafia sided tracker (but I have no clue why she'd lie about HK in this case)

Second:
but I would like to point out something I find interesting - Notty claimed Tracker and nobody has counter-claimed her, nobody has even voted her apart from Foggy, Arelic (who both claim to have an investigation against Notty, so it's obvious why they'd vote her) and HK (who Notty is accusing of visiting her so HK has his reasons), which suggests to me she's uncc tracker...another thing to note is that one of Foggy's abilities is to 'promote' someone to be able to track, however this, if I'm understanding it right, is just a one time thing and can only be done if he sacrifices the ability to use a one-time cop and a one-time blocker, but to me it seems underpowered to have a system like that where there's no town tracker but there is the small possibility of us using one, especially since I feel like there's not a huge amount of power roles in this game since last night went so fast, which suggests to me that Fog's role is probably more of a 'you can use one of these powers in the event that the original owner of said power is dead' and that 1) we have a town tracker and 2) Notty is uncc and therefore telling the truth, a name for a girl is Ruth.
but you're assuming the tracker role specifically is part of this game, which we have no evidence for. Sure, It would be cool if the ranks foggy could promote people to were also roles we also had, but Isn't also equally possible that they actually appear in the game on the mafia team as the mafia varients and town has an entirely different set of power roles? or that the roles don't show at all and town has an entirely different set of power roles? It'd be nice if the town had a tracker, but there is nothing confirming there is a town sided tracker in this game (otherwise Notty would be 100% clear) I can't find the post where Foggy said what he could actually promote people to, but both of these options seem likely, especially since there are a lot of ways that having all of those roles could be pretty OP (especially if we can get the temporary roles on top of them)

Also, It's worth noting that I'm casting this vote despite the fact Notty is town telling, If she flips mafia I'd just like to comment how well she is playing, but at the same time I know she is very good at appeal to emotion strategies, so I'm going to have to overlook that as I believe she could easily be faking these town tells. Maybe this will look suspicious to some people, but I think this is in the best interest of the town right now.

Vote NottyKitten
 

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Can I quickly add the fact that there are roles like Actress and Doppelganger, which we have seen the past 2 games so even if Notty does flip Town we should stay cautious...
I haven't read the past few games-- what do those roles do? x)
...Or are they the same as description on epicmafia that I just googled? https://epicmafia.com/role/429
Just wondering since I don't think I've been in a game with those before. (I think)
 

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Nottykitten - 8 - Foggy2406 (x2), Arelic, HKCaper, K1ngHoward, Webpaige, JKangaroo, Myusername22
Infected_alien8_ - 1 - Nottykitten

Nottykitten was accused of being among the mutineers. The crew executed her, and found their suspicions to be correct.

Just then alarms began to ring throughout the ship.
"ALL HANDS GENERAL QUARTERS. ALL HANDS GENERAL QUARTERS. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. ALL HANDS GENERAL QUARTERS."
The ship's crew rushed to their stations.

Enlisted 2nd Class Nottykitten was a mutineer assigned to engineering.
vanilla mafia role

It is now Night 2. The ship is currently at general quarters. All roles please submit your actions.
 
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"Stand down from general quarters. Report."
"Two deaths sir. Enlisted 1st Class HKCaper, and Enlisted 1st Class TheWeakGuy48_."


Enlisted 1st Class HKCaper was the Mess Manager, and assigned to science.
Blocks a player each night.

Enlisted 1st Class TheWeakGuy48_ was the Sentry, and assigned to engineering.
May either watch or kill a player each night.

It is now Day 2.
With 12 players it takes 7 to lynch and 6 to no lynch.
 

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I'm in engineering. With notty dead it was just me, ender, and TWG. We didnt really discuss much of anything: TWG asked my role and I told him I didn't think it was a good time to be claiming yet. I said if he had anything he thought was important to share that he should share it, but he said nothing. Kind of wish we had all claimed now because he might've had information from watching someone :( , but it's just as likely he got nothing.

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