Ok, If I can have everybody elses attention, due to the fact that I believe we all have beautiful titles, and the ones that are CONFIRMED so far are Captain and Executive Officer, is it still just me that thinks the role 'Tracker' seems a little off? I don't know what your roles are, but if you have a role name similar to the vanilla roles I would be interested to know... that is all for now.
Okay, I just caught up with the discussion.
I want to say, in regards to this, and the fact that there are "ranks," E.g. the XO or Captain, I do believe the ranks are what our role-names are essentially called (and I just want to say, I went back to look at my role, I totally missed the fact that I too have a rank; holy hell how am I completely blind, how did I miss that).
Thus, I believe that is what will show up when a player dies, with a description of their abilities alongside it, like with what happened to hip.
That's just a theory anyways, because I know if I were to claim, I would claim myself as a vanilla role, because that is essentially what I know it to be, and how I would describe it as.
If the roles are tied somewhat tied to rank, which could also easily be doubtful considering Arelic was "promoted" (although do we know if promotions possibly lead to a change in abilities? Or if they serve a special purpose like with hips win condition/Foggy's ability?), but if they are, then me claiming my rank wouldn't say much at all to what my actual role is.
Okay I'm just making this all convoluted: I would say my role is vanilla, so it is possible, yes.
I can easily claim if you would like me to show what I mean; although I don't necessarily see a reason to do so at this point in time, though some might disagree in the future.
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Anyways, onto thoughts of the day?
Honestly, I think we already know how this day is going to end, unless something drastically new happens, which could be possible, but I doubt it.
I trust HK; honestly I feel like there's been quite a bit of soft-claiming (I don't know if its purposeful or not) and I think I already have an idea on what role they are, or at least aspects from certain vanilla roles that HK might have. Some parts have me confused based on what I think HK's role might be, but otherwise I think it's a bit easy to read into. I don't think I'll say what I think it is since HK doesn't want to claim yet and fishing out wild ideas might not be the wisest thing to do to protect a possible town PR; but I think I have a fairly good read on it, and trust HK for the moment as I don't see it as very "incriminating."
E.g. see this by Notty:
I'll claim since why not it seems like I have a cop claim against me I don't have much choice. I am the tracker. I can track someone during the night and see who that player visited. I tracked Hk last night and surprise surprise he visited me.
I may have missed it, but I don't think I've seen Notty say anything wrong with HK visiting her last night; just that HK "visited."
But-- did anything happen? Usually visits in Mafia games result in either death from the hands of mafia/vig/etc, investigations from cop/etc, doctor protection, etc. But nothing happened that we know of.
Since we don't quite have enough information, although again I may have missed it because Inffy's posts have made me so confused this day, I don't see that as something that's incriminating at all at this point in time, and that's even
if it's true in the first place. It's something we should keep in mind, but as its the very first day, and nothing else really points to HK at all, I don't see it as something we should really be worrying about at this moment.
If anything, it's just a misdirection/desperate bid to get attention elsewhere.
In other news; after Foggy said they can promote people and have multiple actions they can give to people (like... I dont know.. they assign tasks to lower ranks?) and since we knew Hip's role's goal was to become Captain--- I thought it was safe to assume Foggy would claim captain at some point, which did happen.
I'm... worried though. I imagine captain's the highest rank in the game based on hip's role, and thus one of the most powerful roles I'd imagine. If it can't be protected, then it might've been bad to claim so early, especially if certain roles specifically focus on player's ranks, like Hip's was; can certain people steal ranks? Maybe they change ranks by killing certain players? Again, I feel like ranks are inherently tied to our roles, so maybe our roles change as we gain ranks?
It's all speculation at this point (or I'm just reading too much into things that aren't there).
But at the same time, and I think either Inffy or myuser mentioned this idea earlier; the idea that Hip's condition was to becoming "acting" captain, so maybe if Foggy dies his abilities will pass along to the next person to become captain? Like its a changeable role that can be passed along; maybe becoming less/more powerful as the days progress?
If so, it's a very interesting idea for a mafia game role, and would be useful in weeding out anti-townies (although; I also wonder if acting captain can be passed along to mafiosos?)
...There's so much about the ranks that could happen; I'm really wondering how they actually work.
I--- don't think there's anything else to talk about?
I guess--- Arelic?
They're just sort of a pawn of Foggy at the moment; nothing really proves their alignment/etc. Just that Foggy's ability went through last night and explains how we got to this moment in the game.
Also,
Vote Notty,
because again, I think we know how this day will end already, and I feel like there's enough evidence/information there that doesn't quite add up to Notty being innocent.