General Quarters [Game Over]

[HKCaper]

Inffy, I saw it as 100% impossible, because I did not take into account any unlikely and odd roles that could have somehow messed this whole thing up. Like taking this into account I would still say it is about 99% impossible that Notty is not scum.

Also, I agree with what Foggy said, 'tracker' doesnt seem to fit in with the role names. My role name is also something that seems to be custom to Ltin's theme.

 

[Nottykitten]

Hk seems really convinced that he did not visit me, weird. Anyways you shouldn't claim because theres enough 'evidence' against me anyways that it wont matter what you say I'll still be a goner soon enough.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

It will 100% prove Notty is lying scum, and if I am not CC'd it will also prove my role. No shenanigans possible.

Inffy, I saw it as 100% impossible, because I did not take into account any unlikely and odd roles that could have somehow messed this whole thing up.

???

Then why did you say 'no shenanigans possible' after I asked you this, to me this seems like a contradiction or am I amiss?

Also, if you do claim and that person confirms you, is there still a chance of crazy mechanics/other roles interfering and giving an explanation for it or dos it 100% confirm Notty is bad, like a violent and abusive and evil granddad?

But yes I do agree the role name seems odd since it seems like all our role names are linked to our characters' role aboard the ship, although I suppose 'tracker' could mean as in tracking down destinations, but then again I'm not sure how that would mean the ability to follow people in the game, but again the fact Notty is uncc tracker (and I have reason to believe we have a town tracker, as I said before), as well as the fact HK seems to be trying to get notty lynched as a priority over telling the truth, makes me reluctant to lynch them but at the same time I don't see why HK would try to pull this off as scum because if notty is innocent and is lynched then HK is suspicious, but there's a chance notty will appear as scum upon death even though she's innocent and hk knows this though I suppose, I have ten toes.

At this point I suppose we should make sure there's no other information or leads from people like Notme or webpaige because if not, lynching notty is probably our only option for today unless more people are suspicious of HK like I am (although I'm not sure I'd rather lynch HK than notty because at the end of the day, Notty has reports against her, which is something pretty solid and lynching them is probably our safest move and it feels weird to receive a cop report against someone and then try to think of all the possible reasons it could be wrong and use that as a reason not lynch them, it's just notty being uncc tracker unnerves me a bit), but if not then at least lynching Notty will hopefully give us some information to go off of, if nothing else, but for now I want to hear from those who are yet to speak, and I should call a plumber to fix my (nonexistent) leak.

I'm not sure where I stand, I feel very conflicted and confused, and with all this confusion I am not amused.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

but at the same time I don't see why HK would try to pull this off as scum because if notty is innocent and is lynched then HK is suspicious, but there's a chance notty will appear as scum upon death even though she's innocent and hk knows this though I suppose, I have ten toes.

Or HK could be innocent too I guess, but this is all confusing to me, I must confess.

 

[HKCaper]

Then why did you say 'no shenanigans possible' after I asked you this, to me this seems like a contradiction or am I amiss?

I am getting annoyed by the fact you are pushing me in the corner like this, am this " " close claiming to show everyone what I meant when I said no shenanigans possible.

What I meant in the post that you might read as a contradiction, is that I mean anything is possible in theory. For all we know Ltin added a role, which makes them not able to die at night, or a role that can kill two players at once, or a role that has the winning condition of getting someone to say a certain crazy phrase, without outing themselves as that role. It's all possible, just so unlikely I said 'no shenanigans possible', but if you insist in taking these weird cases into account go ahead.

 

[Fog]

(and I have reason to believe we have a town tracker, as I said before)

care to explain this further?

 

[webpaige]

If Nottykitten is inno, then there's most likely mafia among Fog/Arelic/Hk
so Vote Nottykitten

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I am getting annoyed by the fact you are pushing me in the corner like this, am this " " close claiming to show everyone what I meant when I said no shenanigans possible.

What I meant in the post that you might read as a contradiction, is that I mean anything is possible in theory. For all we know Ltin added a role, which makes them not able to die at night, or a role that can kill two players at once, or a role that has the winning condition of getting someone to say a certain crazy phrase, without outing themselves as that role. It's all possible, just so unlikely I said 'no shenanigans possible', but if you insist in taking these weird cases into account go ahead.

I'm not pushing you into any corner, but you have to understand that from my perspective, when I've gone out of my way to make sure that you mean there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that other roles could interfere, even explicitly asking that question (see quote I posted in my previous post), and then you respond saying there isn't, and then say later, when I pushed it further, 'oh I meant realistically/probably impossible', I'm going to be a bit confused and suspicious of you, like someone with no butt claiming they need to go poo(???).

care to explain this further?

but I would like to point out something I find interesting - Notty claimed Tracker and nobody has counter-claimed her, nobody has even voted her apart from Foggy, Arelic (who both claim to have an investigation against Notty, so it's obvious why they'd vote her) and HK (who Notty is accusing of visiting her so HK has his reasons), which suggests to me she's uncc tracker...another thing to note is that one of Foggy's abilities is to 'promote' someone to be able to track, however this, if I'm understanding it right, is just a one time thing and can only be done if he sacrifices the ability to use a one-time cop and a one-time blocker, but to me it seems underpowered to have a system like that where there's no town tracker but there is the small possibility of us using one, especially since I feel like there's not a huge amount of power roles in this game since last night went so fast, which suggests to me that Fog's role is probably more of a 'you can use one of these powers in the event that the original owner of said power is dead' and that 1) we have a town tracker and 2) Notty is uncc and therefore telling the truth, a name for a girl is Ruth.


Of course all of that theory could be incorrect and maybe we do just have a lack of power role as town, which would suggest a lack of power role for mafia too to make it balanced, but I'm inclined to believe that is not the case for...reasons, there are 4 seasons.

The answer to your question is in this quote, a good way to travel over water is to use a boat.

 

[HKCaper]

I'm not pushing you into any corner, but you have to understand that from my perspective, when I've gone out of my way to make sure that you mean there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that other roles could interfere, even explicitly asking that question (see quote I posted in my previous post), and then you respond saying there isn't, and then say later, when I pushed it further, 'oh I meant realistically/probably impossible'

What I tried to make clear in the last post, I first said 100% impossible, because I felt there was no way Notty was telling the truth somehow. Later, after you went further and further into the topic, I started thinking that in a closed setup basically anything cannot be 100% impossible, who knows what unrealistic aspects Ltin added to the game. However, it is still much much more impossible than 'probably' impossible. Like I tried to sort of create an image for in my last post, these aspect would have to be extremely odd (and would make the game extremely unbalanced).

If you really want to continue on this, go ahead, but this whole situation is slowly transforming into a mess, which it shouldn't have to be. For now, in my opinion (for what its worth to you at this point), I'd still advice to lynch Notty, since I am not the only one bringing arguments for why she is mafia, and we'll see from there.

 

[Mooglie]

has raxo even said anything yet

 

[Fog]

has raxo even said anything yet

Hi guys :)

 

[Infected_alien8_]

has raxo even said anything yet

Have you said anything yet about your thoughts on the notty-report situation yet, I think not... so... speak now before we... forget.

 

[Ltin]

VOTECOUNT Is inf a spambot?
Nottykitten - 5 - Foggy2406, Arelic, HKCaper, K1ngHoward, Webpaige
Foggy2406 - 1 - Nottykitten
With 15 players it takes 8 to lynch and 8 to no lynch

 

[Nottykitten]

Have you said anything yet about your thoughts on the notty-report situation yet, I think not... so... speak now before we... forget.

Lots of people haven't said things =(

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Lots of people haven't said things =(

Yeah it seems most people are choosing to be silent around this discussion which is pretty interesting and probably tells us something if/when you die, I hate pie.

 

[Nottykitten]

Lots of people haven't said things =(

That said considering there is no second lynch target(from the 3 I only think Foggy is actually Mafia, but who'se gonna lynch him ; - it's inevitable that I'll die.

 

[Nottykitten]

I hate pie.

Unvote
Vote Inf

 

[Unusual_Dood]

I would like to start of by saying I find it very likely that Notty is mafia. Both Arelic and Foggy confirmed/stated that they both had gotten an investigation result of Notty being mafia, and I don't think they are lying about that. Then Notty claimed 'Tracker' and said HKCaper visited her, which he said wasn't true. My last reason, which also has been brought up, is how the roles are themed while Notty's wasn't, and all of these points makes me sure of Notty being mafia.

I can only think of two not-super-unlikely scenarios (in my opinion) of how Notty is innocent in this situation. The first one is if all the three were lying. However, I find it being too risky to sarcifise three mafia members to only kill one townie. The second scenario is if both Arelic and Foggy's investigation was false, either by Notty being a secret miller or something or by a mafia role who could make innocents appear as scum in cop result, That followed by HKCaper would have to be mafia and take that opportunity to state that Notty was lying. That's why I think Notty being innocent will make HKCaper mafia.

If Notty is mafia, I would be inclined to belive that Foggy is not scum, and he should also be able to prove himself the next night(if he isn't visiting mafias or being roleblocked). However, that would not prove Arelic's innocence, since she still could have been a mafia who told the truth with Foggy. Neither does it prove HKCaper's innocence because Notty could have claimed tracking one of her mafia fellows or a townie.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

and he should also be able to prove himself the next night(if he isn't visiting mafias

Can I ask for clarification on what this means please, Cheddar is the name of a cheese?

 

[Unusual_Dood]

If Foggy then is visiting a mafia, the mafia can say he wasn't visited, and Foggy wouldn't be proven yet.

 

[Nottykitten]

My last reason, which also has been brought up, is how the roles are themed while Notty's wasn't, and all of these points makes me sure of Notty being mafia.

I mean I'm not gonna make up some fake themed role just to make it more realistic. It litterally says 'tracker' as my position so what was I supposted to say?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

If Foggy then is visiting a mafia, the mafia can say he wasn't visited, and Foggy wouldn't be proven yet.

Since when does foggy visit though, I'm very confused, and why does foggy visiting mafia mean mafia can say he wasn't visited and so foggy is proven, this is confusing me lots, Create has a command called /plots.

 

[Fog]

My BrAiN hUrTs

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Okay so now that most of my pressing and digging for information is probably over with for today, I decided to organize my thoughts and put them here for both myself to look back on and anyone else who is confused about the situation and could use this to get a grasp on what's going on (as well as my conclusions drawn from it); reasons for Notty being mafia include a cop report, and an apparent false accusation (HK), and reasons for Notty being innocent are the fact she is uncc tracker, which I suppose could just mean there isn't a tracker in the game and my theory on the reasoning behind fog's role's existence is wrong, and unlikely theories of how the false accusation and cop report came about, a type of fish is a rainbow trout.

I don't believe it likely that HK is lying one one hand because it'd be suicidal to do what he's doing now if he's mafia and Notty is innocent, same with foggy, (unless Notty's role has been altered to appear as evil upon death but to make such an assumption would be a bad idea in this early stage of the game), but on the other hand I believe HK could be lying because he seemed to push hard for Notty's lynch based on the fact he could "100%" know for sure Notty was mafia, then later saying he couldn't when I asked for details, which I find odd and sounds like he just wanted Notty dead and hoped we'd just take his word for his certainty of her scuminess and lynch her, but he gave his reasons for what he did and though I don't quite follow his thought process I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, though I am a bit suspicious of him, and will certainly be advocating to lynch him tomorrow if Notty dies today and is innocent, and his name is not Tim.

My only third suspect so far is a small vibe-based one on Unusual_Dood, yes that dude, but to push for his lynch day 1 just because of this would be crude.

Conclusion; it is probably safest bet to lynch Notty as it's more likely she is mafia and we get information from her death, yes when she dies and her body, up to Heaven or Hell, flies.

I'm still going to wait for Notme's post because who knows, maybe he has some game-changing information, and I'd like to hear what people like JKangaroo and Mulbery and TheWeakGuy48_ think, and I'd like myusername22's updated thoughts, but I think it looks like I'll be voting Notty today if Notme doesn't have anything to say because voting Notty relies on 'facts' brought to the table but not voting Notty relies on just a theory of mine about the setup having a tracker because of fog's role being true, the sky is blue. But of course depending on what others bring up this could change, like the guns used at a shooting range.

And yes I know this post is ugly but I can't use bold because my rhymes use bold so I had to colour code, so I went into art mode.

 

[Fog]

Okay so now that most of my pressing and digging for information is probably over with for today, I decided to organize my thoughts and put them here for both myself to look back on and anyone else who is confused about the situation and could use this to get a grasp on what's going on (as well as my conclusions drawn from it); reasons for Notty being mafia include a cop report, and an apparent false accusation (HK), and reasons for Notty being innocent are the fact she is uncc tracker, which I suppose could just mean there isn't a tracker in the game and my theory on the reasoning behind fog's role's existence is wrong, and unlikely theories of how the false accusation and cop report came about, a type of fish is a rainbow trout.

I don't believe it likely that HK is lying one one hand because it'd be suicidal to do what he's doing now if he's mafia and Notty is innocent, same with foggy, (unless Notty's role has been altered to appear as evil upon death but to make such an assumption would be a bad idea in this early stage of the game), but on the other hand I believe HK could be lying because he seemed to push hard for Notty's lynch based on the fact he could "100%" know for sure Notty was mafia, then later saying he couldn't when I asked for details, which I find odd and sounds like he just wanted Notty dead and hoped we'd just take his word for his certainty of her scuminess and lynch her, but he gave his reasons for what he did and though I don't quite follow his thought process I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, though I am a bit suspicious of him, and will certainly be advocating to lynch him tomorrow if Notty dies today and is innocent, and his name is not Tim.

My only third suspect so far is a small vibe-based one on Unusual_Dood, yes that dude, but to push for his lynch day 1 just because of this would be crude.

Conclusion; it is probably safest bet to lynch Notty as it's more likely she is mafia and we get information from her death, yes when she dies and her body, up to Heaven or Hell, flies.

I'm still going to wait for Notme's post because who knows, maybe he has some game-changing information, and I'd like to hear what people like JKangaroo and Mulbery and TheWeakGuy48_ think, and I'd like myusername22's updated thoughts, but I think it looks like I'll be voting Notty today if Notme doesn't have anything to say because voting Notty relies on 'facts' brought to the table but not voting Notty relies on just a theory of mine about the setup having a tracker because of fog's role being true, the sky is blue. But of course depending on what others bring up this could change, like the guns used at a shooting range.

And yes I know this post is ugly but I can't use bold because my rhymes use bold so I had to colour code, so I went into art mode.

Can I ask for a Modkill for this atrocity Ltin ?!