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Also, yesterday makes a lot of sense now. If HK had roleblocked me it would've been awkward if he had given my name in response to me asking for a player, plus it would've made it fairly obvious he was the roleblocker.

I wonder if mafia killed TWG and TWG killed Hk. It makes sense because he might look suspicious after yesterday's conversation, though it's sad we lost him. I hate when townies kill townies, but that assumption is our best case scenario. If we assume TWG used his watcher ability instead then we have our worst case scenario that implies there is a dangerous third party out there.

In any case, it wouldn't hurt to have eyes out for a dangerous third party.

Really sucks, we just lost 2 powerful town power roles.
 

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I would like to point out the fact that Infected_alien8_ is still alive... and that makes me suspicious. I am pretty sure that either He or Paige are mafia, although I cannot say for certain. My meeting was with the 'Officers' at least that's what I think it was called, however, I am now debating the possibility of their being at least one Mafia member in every different Quarter. I was in conversation with JK, Paige and Notme... but nobody really spoke which was rather disappointing. But I am more suspicious of Notme and Paige than I was before having the chat.
 

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I would like to point out the fact that Infected_alien8_ is still alive... and that makes me suspicious. I am pretty sure that either He or Paige are mafia, although I cannot say for certain. My meeting was with the 'Officers' at least that's what I think it was called, however, I am now debating the possibility of their being at least one Mafia member in every different Quarter. I was in conversation with JK, Paige and Notme... but nobody really spoke which was rather disappointing. But I am more suspicious of Notme and Paige than I was before having the chat.
please I'm a good girl I don't do mafia things
though inf has been very quiet today, I'd like to point out
 

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Do you mind clarifying this? (Also maybe Inffy's being quiet due to his brain damage hmm)
Well, Hip Inf Paige and I are all friends and im thinking, either one of 'us' is targeting other members of the group to reduce the threat or the Mafia is playing off of this to make us suspicious of each other. So Hip dying and Inf getting brain damage and also Inf surviving this long whilst getting rid of less experienced players such as TWG and HK (although i think HK was killed by TWG) increases my suspicion. I am currently must suspicious of Paige, however, im not eliminating the idea that Inf could be mafia and got one of his comrades to give him the 'brain damage' to make him seem town and furthermore, due to the fact that the actual rhyming would not have prevented him performing any actions it means that it could have worked as a perfect cover. I would also like to know who has 'brain damage' today to see if 1) this is actually a thing and not a ruse and 2) to see if we can possibly eliminate somebody as a suspect...
 

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vote Infected

i've skimmed the thread and holy shit whoever came up with this rhyming bs for inf needs to die in a fire somewhere, it's making the game nigh unplayable for me

policy lynch vote until i can actually formulate any coherent thoughts
I thought it was just a one day thing... or am I wrong

also Unusual_Dood I believe that it was only a one night mechanic
 

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Why would we policy lynch someone for having a hidden chat mechanic? what do you expect that they just shut up and don't talk the entire game? that they don't come forward to tell us it exists? Especially when it sounds like it's only a one day thing I don't understand why you'd kill them off. What if the role that hits him targets someone every night, should we just do their killing for them while ignoring suspicious mafias?

I know you're still trying to catch up, but why would you suggest that policy lynch?

I find this suspicious.

I have a few ideas on who to lynch this day, but I'm hoping more people will talk first.
 

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I know you're still trying to catch up, but why would you suggest that policy lynch?
congrats, you (and oog with that agree rating) have taken the bait for "dumb, yet obvious reasons to point fingers at someone", aka things scum would do

then again, you also did that last game with me and the whole no lynch thing, so this might mean jackshit

in any case if you really think i was at any point considering lynching inf, may i direct your eyes to what comes precisely after "policy lynch vote":
policy lynch vote until i can actually formulate any coherent thoughts
 

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congrats, you (and oog with that agree rating) have taken the bait for "dumb, yet obvious reasons to point fingers at someone", aka things scum would do

then again, you also did that last game with me and the whole no lynch thing, so this might mean jackshit

in any case if you really think i was at any point considering lynching inf, may i direct your eyes to what comes precisely after "policy lynch vote":
Fair enough. I know you weren't seriously trying to get inffy lynched, that was pretty obvious. However, I was bothered by it more because I was confused to what it was meant to accomplish. Excluding last game I still don't have much recent experience playing mafia, and I'm not quite accustomed to current playstyles, so please forgive me.
 

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Fair enough. I know you weren't seriously trying to get inffy lynched, that was pretty obvious. However, I was bothered by it more because I was confused to what it was meant to accomplish. Excluding last game I still don't have much recent experience playing mafia, and I'm not quite accustomed to current playstyles, so please forgive me.
that's okay

and in case i sounded rude or anything, forgive me as well, the sarcasm is honestly both part of my personality and playstyle and i don't know which is more cancerous
 

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I'M FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

AND THERE'S A BLACKMAILER ROLE/MECHANIC

Okay so, let me explain some stuff since I'm finally free to speak and actually tell you what happened. Night 1 I was sent a message from someone who wrote a very loving letter about how I was to be their toy for the rest of the game and they would force me to do stuff each day, and that if I didn't, I'd die (Ltin confirmed this so it's an official part of the mechanic, not an empty threat). They said that since they didn't have anything planned for me yet they'd have some fun and make me Rhyme (this was in bold in the letter). Then Ltin gave me a list of rules that came with my task (and this tied with the fact the 'rhyme' was in bold makes me think this role/mechanic chooses from a list of official things to blackmail someone with, not just freely made up ones, like foggy's role chooses from a list for his role), told me that I wasn't allowed to tell anyone that I was being blackmailed during any day/night cycle that succeeded the night that I had been blackmailed (so if I was blackmailed n1 I couldn't speak about it D1 or N2 for example [and the fact that he detailed this made me think there were night chats which is why I believed foggy's claim when he mentioned the general quarters thing]) and made it clear that I'd be killed n2 if I failed.

ANYWAYS since I didn't wanna be suspicious using weird rhymes I made up the story about my room losing air and getting brain damaged. I expected that I'd be blackmailed for the rest of the game but tonight I have been left no letters and ltin has confirmed that I can now speak about my blackmail so I GUESS I'M FREE.

To prove my claims and show I'm not lying for whatever reason about it, last night I was in a chat with Mulbery Ooglie101 and Arelic and I spoke without rhyme there (since I only have to do my blackmail task in the day, as confirmed by ltin). I told them at the time that Ltin had just told me I could now speak freely and wasn't sure why but I lied there too since I had to, but the fact I could rhyme there, I'd argue, kinda proves that I didn't have brain damage, since you'd expect brain damage to carry over into the night I guess.

SO the fact that I'm now free suggests either

1) The blackmailer moved on from me and onto someone else, meaning someone else is being blackmailed as we speak (idk what with though since like I said, the 'Rhyme' thing felt like just an option for them, but keep on the look out for strange stuff, like weird votes or something)
2) The blackmailer was blocked, which means a roleblocker here could have blocked them (and so if you're a roleblocker and you're town and you blocked someone alive, maybe they're the blackmailer, but it's possible that HK blocked whoever did it*****) - I'm kinda inclined to believe this because with the blackmailer leaving me and going to someone else, we now know about their existence (because I'm free to tell everyone and I assume the blackmailer person would know this), which is probably a disadvantage, but maybe they had reasons.
3) The blackmailer didn't do their action - not sure why this would be but Notme has been inactive so maybe he ran out of time to do his action, but at the same time the writing style of the letter does not match with Notme in the slightest so I doubt it's this.

BUT I can't say for sure it was even a player who sent me the letter and that a role did it since ltin wouldn't confirm it when I asked but it seems very likely since the writing style seemed different to Ltin's, like less "[] [] []" and more sideways "S" (I know, more weird corridor-cloud stuff but maybe someone will understand, like it was more fluent and swirly, less 'this is my point and I will say it with the least amount of words as possible and be really to-the-point' like I kinda get from ltin sometimes)

******ALSO I myself was blocked last night, which means either there are 2 blockers and the second blocker (either HK or the one alive) blocked the blackmailer, or the blackmailer was not blocked, and I was the only person who was blocked last night. As I said, I'm inclined to believe that there's another blocker out there, whether town or third party or maybe mafia and the blackmailer is third party, and that they blocked the blackmailer last night.

NOW ONTO MY SUSPICIONS

My first suspicion is Myusername22 because, although I decided I town-read him yesterday,

1) on reflection, the writing style of the letter I got would fit with him
2) he said he was blocked yesterday and there was one night kill, now there's two - coincidence??? I mean at first I dismissed this point to myself since I figured 'why would he out as blocked if he was the murderer because he's just setting himself up for tomorrow' but then I realized that if he was the murderer being blocked, he'd have to out it because the blocker knew he blocked him and if he didn't out it and then next day there are 2 night kills, the blocker would probably be suspicious of him for not outing his block, and out the fact myuser was blocked himself, and that'd end up with myuser getting lynched probably, and so it'd make sense for him to out his blocked-ness as a murderer (and possibly make him seem innocent by saying 'if I was murderer why would I out I was blocked!'
2.b) Also there's obviously a chance TWG killed HK but I don't understand why he would do that since after yesterday HK was pretty clearly innocent, in my eyes at least.

My second suspicion is Unusual_Dood because,

1) them vibes man
2) his 'voted to see if anyone bandwagoned' felt fake, he left it like 2 hours or something to see if anyone wagon'd on, which I found weird and felt like he was just trying to either look innocent by pretending to catch scummy bandwagoners but actually not wanting to do so, or he was trying to bandwagon, realized it was a bad idea and unvoted and tried to pass it off as 'trying to see if anyone bandwagoned'

My third suspicion is Notme because,

1) he literally said nothing throughout the entire conversation yesterday

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Anyway, did anyone actually learn anything last night from the general quarters thing? Because our group basically just shared opinions on suspicious people (Notme,Unusual_Dood and myusername came up, and not just from me incidentally) and we couldn't think of anything to do in it. One thing to note was that mulb seemed weirdly sure that there were 4 mafia members and did all these statistics predicting the likelihood that one of us in our inn was mafia, all based on the fact there were 4 mafia members, which I found a bit odd (so if mulb turns out to be mafia I think we can assume there's 4 mafia), Oog shared my suspicion of Notme because of his refusal to partake in the discussion, I shared suspicions that I've outlined just now (as well as suspicion on myuser for suddenly changing his mind on Notty but I just re-read his post and I realize I misunderstood his post now so I'm cancelling that point), Arelic shared suspicions on Unusual_Dood for the same reason as me and Mulb shared suspicions of myusername for his reactions towards Notty.

Also sorry for not speaking yesterday, I bought and played 7 days to die and then my Dad forced me to sleep before I could post here :(
 

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congrats, you (and oog with that agree rating) have taken the bait for "dumb, yet obvious reasons to point fingers at someone", aka things scum would do
(ok i know ive been playing mafia since essentially its start on forums but)
WHAT EVEN IS A POLICY LYNCH
like it seem so stupid to me if you're gonna vote to remove someone from the game surely you should actually have enough reason to believe their guilt??? if you havent formed any coherent thoughts then why would you even place the vote in the first place???? surely a scum can just throw votes around and claim it was for a 'policy lynch' and remove it without any suspicion

argh ever since jivvi's lynch i've been bothered by the idea of policy lynches or whatever
 

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Oog shared my suspicion of Notme
(also to add on)

raxo doesn't really have a good track record with being active as scum and slipping h a r d (e.g. the fence game)
then again raxo has an equally bad track record with being active as town and then dying as an important PR (e.g. that game where he claimed doctor day 0 or 1 i forget which)

so it's hard to decide which but idk
 

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Well I don't talk much so no one wastes lynch on me :p
And I'm just bad at this game :p
But by not talking you're setting yourself up for a lynch too because not talking is also suspicious :(

Just be careful, but give your opinions, and as a townie if you're just honest then I don't see why you'd 'slip' or anything so it should be fine. The fact you're wanting to not speak, to me at least, makes me think you have stuff to hide!!!
 

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WHAT EVEN IS A POLICY LYNC
a policy lynch is a lynch carried out not because of the perceived guilt of a person, but because of the mechanical or otherwise beneficial effects that lynch would bring for the town or the game as a whole

like it seem so stupid to me if you're gonna vote to remove someone from the game surely you should actually have enough reason to believe their guilt???
you seem to assume that votes are only good for lynching, i disagree

if you havent formed any coherent thoughts then why would you even place the vote in the first place????
reaction testing, for one, and given your meta, i'd say you're failing hard right now

surely a scum can just throw votes around and claim it was for a 'policy lynch' and remove it without any suspicion
of course they can, but what would be the point?

argh ever since jivvi's lynch i've been bothered by the idea of policy lynches or whatever
a) jivvi was not contributing to the game, lynching him was the viable option, even with him turning out to be the cop
b) just because it led to an unwanted outcome once, doesn't mean it has to do so every time
 
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