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the extent to which Inffy seems confident about this is unnervingly suspicious.
Well.
Infected suspicious of Webpaige... Paige has to be town, then. Any other you think are mafias, Infected? I could really use more town reads.
If you're implying you got me as mafia in a report, either you're reaction testing or you're being blackmailed. If you could clarify that'd be great so I can claim and prove you're lying.
 

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Well.

If you're implying you got me as mafia in a report, either you're reaction testing or you're being blackmailed. If you could clarify that'd be great so I can claim and prove you're lying.
Yes, please prove how I am lying with my 'Infected is Mafia' result from my investigation.
 

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is jk just busy or is he deliberately lurking
My workplace has sort of been expecting an inspection for... the past 2 months now, and its supposed to be a surprise inspection but it just never comes, so its sort of stressing me out and I sorta keep forgetting that there's a game going on (and this game being the first time ive posted in months doesn't help with the reminders either...)
I usually pop on to see if theres an alert or not---- but I usually forget to reply afterwards.
It's not intentional, I swear.
And no, its not blackmail either (I recall someone saying that yesterday since I wasn't talking much, I don't remember who though)

Anyways, I just... "really" read through what happened in the final hours of the previous day with notme and--- In my eyes it just seems like sort of a desperate lynch because the time was ticking down until the deadline and people wanted a lynch but couldn't really pick between certain people/didn't feel confident enough in certain targets, which ultimately kind of makes sense; was more in line with a policy lynch I guess-- if a bit iffy in places.
It also almost reminds me of Nitasu's Ezio death--- though I think this happened much faster.

I am wondering if how Notme claimed was simply them stating what their role description was, because a "vanilla townie" will still just be a "vanilla" in basic terms---
Or I also wonder if Notme never saw, or didn't have "crewman" listed, and what a person is called on-death is different than in their role pms? (BUT i'm not going to touch that because I dont want to delve into potentially PM mechanics/talking about PMs)

But, I do want to once again assert that I believe I am a "vanilla role"--- or at least, I would consider myself and would claim myself as such. If that is suspicious then so be it, if notme was put under because of that, then so should I.
...but I suspect (or at least hope) I'm not the only one with something like that.

And besides that, I am curious what unusual's report was, though from his responses I think we can all take a guess (or I could be completely off base); okay he just confirmed it as I was writing this, so there we go.
Besides that, Unusual_Dood, what was your first report back on the first night? Or does it not matter because of the possibility that your target died? (...Or was Mulb the one that was investigated night 1 and I just wasnt paying attention?...)
I think if we had another person we can confirm is town then that makes it easier for us to narrow down who is potential scum in the following days.

I'm also wondering about some of the other reports that could be useful for this, specifically Foggy's captain'ing, since you said you can promote people with the ability (and receive their reports) specifically involving Watching, tracking, and roleblocking, which was said back on one of the earlier days.
Unless like I said earlier, they all died, so the reports might not be that useful but-- eh!
With so few of us, and even less when/if we lynch infected today thanks to that cop report, I think we can start to narrow things down a bit mathematically now via reports/confirmations.

I said yesterday I had a few hunches--- one of them turned out to be wrong but I think I have a few things figured out as well. Or at least-- I hope I do.
I kind of want to narrow things down though a bit.

And before I forget, because of unusual's post right above me,
Vote Infected
 

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Anyways, I just... "really" read through what happened in the final hours of the previous day with notme and--- In my eyes it just seems like sort of a desperate lynch because the time was ticking down until the deadline and people wanted a lynch but couldn't really pick between certain people/didn't feel confident enough in certain targets, which ultimately kind of makes sense; was more in line with a policy lynch I guess-- if a bit iffy in places.
Basically what happened was:
Wait, Notme did your role have another name than 'Vanilla Townie'?
nope lmao
Ensign Notme, a crewman, has been lynched.
Vanilla townie
I'll probably vote for Inf after I wake up tomorrow, interested in what he wants to claim before he gets lynched.
 
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OKOKOKOKOKOK STOP PLS

OK SO MY TACTIC CLEARLY ISN'T WORKING

YES I KNOW IM BAD AT MAFIA AND IM A LIAR AND A PIECE OF SCUM AND NO I AM NOT A CIVILIAN

I AM THE THIRD PARTY ROLE, THE ARTIST

YES THERE WAS A SPECIFIC REASON FOR ME TRYING TO SAVE LTIN

BUT MY ROLE DOES HAVE A PERK TO IT WHICH MAKES ME EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL TO TOWN SO HEAR ME OUT: I CAN FIND OUT WHO THE GADGET IS

PLS DONT KILL ME, I WANT THE GADGET DEAD AND SO DOES TOWN, AND I CAN FIND OUT WHO IT IS <3

I'M KIND OF RELUCTANT TO GIVE ANY MORE INFO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO THINK THIS THROUGH PROPERLY BUT BASICALLY LYNCHING ME IS SHOOTING YOURSELVES IN THE FOOT SO

I MEAN I'M PROBABLY DEAD TONIGHT ANYWAY BUT WHO KNOWS MAYBE SOME MIRACLE WILL HAPPEN AND I'LL SURVIVE FOR SOME WACKY REASON
...that happens again

tbh I can't wait Infected_alien8_
 

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Okay well either our cop is lost to the blackmailer (which I think is pretty likely considering unu refused to tell whether or not he was visited last night and I don't understand why he'd do that if not for the fact he was blackmailed) or I've fallen victim to the lawyer-like role I assume is in the game, because I'm the Security Operative. Basically, I visit someone at night and ensure their true alignment will be revealed to investigations. Night 1 I visited mulb, night 2 I tried to visit myusername but was blocked, night 3 I again visited myusername. And yes, I'm assuming that's why unu was told mulb was mafia at first, because he probably forgot that I visited her night 1 and reverted their alignment to town, which means she was probably visited by a mafia lawyer n1 (or else she's just affected by some mechanic), but either way, Mulb is innocent. (For those of you wondering why I didn't make it clear I town-read them all game, it's because I assumed the mafia knew of my role existing after mulb appeared innocent day 2, so to be so sure of her innocence would probably make it obvious it's me who reverted their lawyer-ness, so I low-key suggested I was unsure of her whilst not pushing on her despite all the accusations she's thrown my way >:C)

So either unu is being blackmailed, probably 'claim mafia report on <player>' kinda deal, or the mafia lawyer that I assume exists visited me n2 or n3 (which I did not realize was a possibility until now, I thought I was immune but apparently not according to ltin).

Anyway, that's why I was fairly reluctant to lynch Notty based on the report, because I know reports cannot be 100% trusted this game, which I imagine is why foggy has the ability to act as a second cop, to balance it out.

Now, personally, I believe paige and mysuername are suspicious, and since unu has reason to believe myuser is innocent, I'm going to go with the same line of thought as yesterday and vote paige (also because I know it's probably going to be me or her today and I know I'm innocent so unless paige claims a role I believe, I'm rooting for her death, sorry dear <3)

Meanwhile,

tbh im just sitting over here wondering why paige has it out for me :sob:
Same to be honest. I don't know about anyone else but oog is town-telling pretty hard this game and paige's push on the two people who find her suspicious just seems a bit y'know, scummy to me. Oog was silent during the notty lynch sure but he explained that away in our night chat and other than that he's been trust-worthy in my eyes. I town-read him for sure.

Also I want to call you out on this because you've said it like three times now:

I said yesterday I had a few hunches--- one of them turned out to be wrong but I think I have a few things figured out as well. Or at least-- I hope I do.
I kind of want to narrow things down though a bit.
At what point in the game are these 'hunches' going to become available to anyone else? And why do you never have any opinions and only 'ideas floating around in your head'?
 
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Infected_alien8_ Just a couple of questions:

Why did you target myu two nights in a row when given what you claimed, it is far more optimal for you to visit likely targets of the cop? Myu can be suspicious, yes, but given the circumstances, town wasn't particularly suspicious of myu,

Why did you say that you were suspicious of me today, then claim that I'm innocent? Sure, you can be suspicious of me if you want to, but saying that you're suspicious of me and then claiming that I'm innocent on the same day is way too suspicious.

Why did you feel the need to lie about the oxygen thing when you were forced to rhyme? There really is no point in making up a story to cover up the blackmailing, plus it wasn't your fault, so why make the story up?
 

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Infected_alien8_ Just a couple of questions:

Why did you target myu two nights in a row when given what you claimed, it is far more optimal for you to visit likely targets of the cop? Myu can be suspicious, yes, but given the circumstances, town wasn't particularly suspicious of myu,
Because night 2 I thought myuser could have been visited by the cop because, like myself, he showed a bit of caution with lynching Notty. Night 3 I decided unu could be visiting him after the conversation we had where I pointed out that HK was just a roleblocker and so probably was just referring to his gut when he said myuser was innocent, and when he asked:

Can someone explain a blackmailer role to me?
Is blackmailer usually mafia sided or a town role?
And we explained a blackmailer would be anti-town, I thought maybe he would reconsider finding me suspicous and investigate myuser instead, so to make sure the mafia didn't frame him, I visited him again to make sure unu would get a legitimate result.

Infected_alien8_ Just a couple of questions:

Why did you target myu two nights in a row when given what you claimed, it is far more optimal for you to visit likely targets of the cop? Myu can be suspicious, yes, but given the circumstances, town wasn't particularly suspicious of myu,

Why did you say that you were suspicious of me today, then claim that I'm innocent? Sure, you can be suspicious of me if you want to, but saying that you're suspicious of me and then claiming that I'm innocent on the same day is way too suspicious.
Well:
Again, I'm not sure why the others voting Raxo are 'eye raising' to you? Feels like you're just trying to make people who voted Raxo suspicious because you weren't involved in it or something to be honest.
Okay so as well as myuser and kinda mulb, I am also developing an increasing suspicion on paige.
I only said you were "kinda" suspicious, because, like I said, if I seemed to assume you were town then I was worried the mafia would know I was the one who made you appear innocent n2, meaning I was a threat to them, meaning I'd be killed. I probably could have just said I thought you were innocent because of unu's cop report but foggy's whole "mulb is probably godfather" theory made me think that me assuming you were innocent even after that idea was thrown out would still be suspicious to the mafia. But when you were throwing loads of accusations at me that didn't make sense to me, I couldn't defend myself without at least mentioning how you were a little suspicious because of it, because I felt I'd make it too obvious, so I made sure not to push for you but make it seem like I didn't know for sure your alignment.

Why did you feel the need to lie about the oxygen thing when you were forced to rhyme? There really is no point in making up a story to cover up the blackmailing, plus it wasn't your fault, so why make the story up?
Because if I just randomly started to rhyme with no explanation for it then I'm pretty sure people would be suspicious of me. I needed some reason for it to be acceptable so I made a story up, because I couldn't tell the truth or I'd die. I've already explained this to you.
 

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tbh im just sitting over here wondering why paige has it out for me :sob:
Since when?
Okay well either our cop is lost to the blackmailer (which I think is pretty likely considering unu refused to tell whether or not he was visited last night and I don't understand why he'd do that if not for the fact he was blackmailed) or I've fallen victim to the lawyer-like role I assume is in the game, because I'm the Security Operative. Basically, I visit someone at night and ensure their true alignment will be revealed to investigations. Night 1 I visited mulb, night 2 I tried to visit myusername but was blocked, night 3 I again visited myusername. And yes, I'm assuming that's why unu was told mulb was mafia at first, because he probably forgot that I visited her night 1 and reverted their alignment to town, which means she was probably visited by a mafia lawyer n1 (or else she's just affected by some mechanic), but either way, Mulb is innocent. (For those of you wondering why I didn't make it clear I town-read them all game, it's because I assumed the mafia knew of my role existing after mulb appeared innocent day 2, so to be so sure of her innocence would probably make it obvious it's me who reverted their lawyer-ness, so I low-key suggested I was unsure of her whilst not pushing on her despite all the accusations she's thrown my way >:C)
So the cop role we have is reversed, and there just so happens to be a role that reverses it to what it should be, and it just so happens to be a town role, and it just so happens that you visited the same people as the cop.
Sure.
So either unu is being blackmailed, probably 'claim mafia report on <player>' kinda deal, or the mafia lawyer that I assume exists visited me n2 or n3 (which I did not realize was a possibility until now, I thought I was immune but apparently not according to ltin).
Interesting how the blackmailer hasn't re-appeared again. Unless it was tied to hip somehow, I exactly believe you being blackmailed.
Anyway, that's why I was fairly reluctant to lynch Notty based on the report, because I know reports cannot be 100% trusted this game, which I imagine is why foggy has the ability to act as a second cop, to balance it out.
Kinda wondering what's balancing Fog's abilities at the moment, since the only mafia we killed was vanilla maf.
Now, personally, I believe paige and mysuername are suspicious, and since unu has reason to believe myuser is innocent, I'm going to go with the same line of thought as yesterday and vote paige (also because I know it's probably going to be me or her today and I know I'm innocent so unless paige claims a role I believe, I'm rooting for her death, sorry dear <3)
Should have used a mafia kill on me sorry dear <3
If you want a claim I'm just a crewman. I'm assuming JKang's claim of vanilla is also a crewman, which would make Officer's Chat just Fog and three crewman. (Could of course also be maf, but this is my best guess).
Meanwhile,


Same to be honest. I don't know about anyone else but oog is town-telling pretty hard this game and paige's push on the two people who find her suspicious just seems a bit y'know, scummy to me. Oog was silent during the notty lynch sure but he explained that away in our night chat and other than that he's been trust-worthy in my eyes. I town-read him for sure.
Town-telling how?
And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you're a maf that flips town on death for whatever reason, trying to clear Oog.
Also I want to call you out on this because you've said it like three times now:


At what point in the game are these 'hunches' going to become available to anyone else? And why do you never have any opinions and only 'ideas floating around in your head'?
I would also like to hear.
 

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Since when?

So the cop role we have is reversed, and there just so happens to be a role that reverses it to what it should be, and it just so happens to be a town role, and it just so happens that you visited the same people as the cop.
Sure.
What? No, the cop role isn't reversed, clearly, since unu got TWG as innocent and he was innocent, I mean that people can be made to appear differently on investigations than the truth, and my role is the counter to that. I didn't visit the same people as the cop except I visited mulb n1 and unu visited mulb n2.

Interesting how the blackmailer hasn't re-appeared again. Unless it was tied to hip somehow, I exactly believe you being blackmailed.
The only reason it 'appeared' in the first place was because for whatever reason they stopped blackmailing me, either because they were blocked or, what I think happened, which is that they moved onto unu, and still are on him, so he's still unable to talk about it.

Kinda wondering what's balancing Fog's abilities at the moment, since the only mafia we killed was vanilla maf.
Probably the fact that our reports aren't 100% accurate and the mafia have a blackmailer.

Town-telling how?
I've explained earlier (see below) and my opinion remains the same. I'm getting town vibes from him, he's acting like the townie version of oog.

I'm gonna go ahead and say I town-read oog right now since he's more directly involved with other people (e.g. rating posts, talking to people directly) than he usually is when he's mafia (from what I've noticed), although his silence on day 1 seemed weird to me, his explanation in our PM chat was that everyone had said everything there was to say and he wasn't sure what to say, which I guess I can believe for now at least.
 
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