Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win
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Danni122112
The Drunk
smart
while we probably shouldnt rely 100% on their interpretations, when someone claims, it will be good to take a deeper look into it.
huh
reminded me of Oliphant form LOTR but ye, basically the same thing, so :D
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
I think that makes sense for lover.
For Justice, maybe, but I think the Hanged Man could also be something like that. The Hanged Man is about a man who is willingly hanged, he wants to be hung because it benefits him somehow, from what I read on this website. So it's probably like a Hunter role of some sort, who gets to kill someone when they die. Or maybe there's a different benefit, and it's Justice who gets to kill someone when they die instead.
I've realised I was rushing too hard in to this game. We don't want to make any wrong moves until we have a better understanding of the playing field.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
If noone comes forward saying they have a solid reason to believe the roles aren't necessarily clearly linked to allignment, we could massclaim our role names and lynch the suspicious ones
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
This is why we need every town to be honest, since if we do that and the allignments and roles aren't actually clearly linked, we've outed our power roles in exchange for nothing. If it's a really obvious link though, like the one I suggested last page, then it could be worth outing everyone since it'd probably be more useful than a series of cop reports on different people anyway
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
And if Mafia wants to lie about their role, they'll trigger a cc, which makes things easier for us
And if they want to tell the truth about their role, they'll have to speak up and say their role isn't clearly linked to their allignment, and then they can be investigated and if they're mafia, then we know that it's likely the roles do clearly link to allignment and then we can force a mass claim
And if they want to tell the truth about their role, they'll have to speak up and say their role isn't clearly linked to their allignment, and then they can be investigated and if they're mafia, then we know that it's likely the roles do clearly link to allignment and then we can force a mass claim
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
And like I said before, if any townies are concerned about giving info, what you'll be giving is very vague and unhelpful to mafia so it's worth it, since, if you are a town role assigned with a really suspicious rolename, it's important you tell everyone so that we don't out all our PR's and it be a waste
Anyway I'm off to bed now
Anyway I'm off to bed now
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
But yeah don't necessarily say "I have a scummy role and I'm town", since there may be another reason - maybe you have information about the setup in general that isn't completely tied to your role. And if you make it clear you're a certain role, if the mafia all know each other's roles it's possible they'll be able to deduct what your role is, depending on what their roles are, so be careful with it. e.g. you're death and you're town, you say you're a scummy role but town - all mafia are every other scummy role apart from death, so they know you're probably death since that's the only scummy role you could be.
Obviously this whole tactic comes with a risk but if we minimize that risk by getting everyone to answer this question then it should be worth it!!! Having a list of a handful of likely mafia is likely more useful than if we just let the cop get a few results too, depending on how strong that likelihood is (which is what this question process will determine)
Sorry for lots of posts
Obviously this whole tactic comes with a risk but if we minimize that risk by getting everyone to answer this question then it should be worth it!!! Having a list of a handful of likely mafia is likely more useful than if we just let the cop get a few results too, depending on how strong that likelihood is (which is what this question process will determine)
Sorry for lots of posts
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
And it's POSSIBLE Mafia will sacrifice someone to do this and make us mass claim even though not all mafia are scummy roles, but that would only happen if a townie with a scummy name stayed silent and allowed us to be tricked into mass claiming so if townies are honest that won't happen!
ANYWAY I'M FOR REAL GONNA SLEEP NOW BYE
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
vote No Lynch
also, i don't have time to read properly right now but from what i gather, inf is already trying to assign card names to roles, which is probably not accurate and will probably end up damaging the town
also, i don't have time to read properly right now but from what i gather, inf is already trying to assign card names to roles, which is probably not accurate and will probably end up damaging the town
Alright im here, sooo
First
And also im end this fuker before he does too much dmg with his weird plays
shoot inffy Arelic
On a serious note, you role division table is wrong, at least for my role, and probably 1 other (though im still contemplating about that one) *this will probably make sense later, but dont want to claim yet*
First
And also im end this fuker before he does too much dmg with his weird plays
shoot inffy Arelic
On a serious note, you role division table is wrong, at least for my role, and probably 1 other (though im still contemplating about that one) *this will probably make sense later, but dont want to claim yet*
Also for mafia i suggest:
-The hanged man.
-Death
-The devil
-The tower
-The moon
Although i dont know if the cards would be tied so closely to roles, since these seem to be the 'bad' cards.
While we are on the topic of cards, i think we should def consider a fool role to exist.
I can look into the cards some more later if we feel its necesarry, i could also just leave it at this (if we dont think the cards meaning are relevant)
-The hanged man.
-Death
-The devil
-The tower
-The moon
Although i dont know if the cards would be tied so closely to roles, since these seem to be the 'bad' cards.
While we are on the topic of cards, i think we should def consider a fool role to exist.
I can look into the cards some more later if we feel its necesarry, i could also just leave it at this (if we dont think the cards meaning are relevant)
Now that you've pointed it out I think you've pretty much overruled the possibility.
But yes I think Inffy's plan holds water? We know 22/23 of the roles, lovers could be a double (thus 23/23). So technically if we mass claim and town doesn't fake their claims, we'd have some CC's which would make some parties suspicious, if their alignment isn't already obvious enough.
All for it.
Let's remember that some Mafia peeps may want to jump the gun and claim potentially town-aligning roles first if we go ahead with this. So I think we should be prepared for some sort of chaos.
Still no information, but chaos, welcome!
Mooglie
The Local Cow
i mean if cards are like linked to allignment in a game where we essentially know all 23 roles (assuming lovers are 2 roles) it seems a bit too easy but who knows (btw im not softclaiming one of those cards)
Idk it just doesnt make sense to me that a role like the devil or death would be town (same for moon, tower and hanged man actually, if you look into the meaning of the cards). Could just be my opinion, but i dont think the cards wouldnt somehow be linked to roles.
Aqua
Does anybody remember laughter?
I mean I agree to a mass claim but inf's pairing of roles to cards is just speculation anyway; it would be silly to use that as evidence for a lynch. Then again in terms of the lovers thing or the extra card it could provide useful incite.