Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

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And I will agree with mulb on that it would be a bad move for Mafia to do that, but these actions are likely passive, maybe a side effect of visiting death. This could mean that there are only 2 mafia remaining, death and devil both of which haven't claimed so it's between Erik/rune or mulb.

While I do still think that mulb is Mafia it may be in our best option to lynch Erik.

I said above that he was likely town but one of his latest posts (where he said he was a doctor) made me severely doubt him. There is no way in hell that town has two doctors AND two cops
 
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Are there any other people, who have not claimed their card, that we can get to claim? (If everyone else has, except like two, if they claim we will probbaly get CC's)
Everyone's role has been more or less confirmed except for the devil, and death if you don't think roob's report is accurate.
 

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Consider this: we are literally 100% certain that between rune and erik, one of them has a role they do not wish to reveal - an antitown role. If we want to maximize our chances of lynching antitown today then it should be between those two.
The same is it for you and Oog, it is a 100% chance that one of you have a antitown card that you don’t want to reveal. The only difference is that Ooglie mysteriously got killed, which likely was caused by the mafias. So, it would make much sense for you to be mafia.

If we lynch you, we will also give Roob and Dess a chance of checking Erik and Rune.
- If their results are different we will know which of Erik and Rune that has the same alignement as Roob, and which of the other Dess has the same alignment as. Then it should also be easier to figure out which of those that are mafias
- If their results are the same, then great! We got a liar.
- If the townie of them (Roob or Dess) gets nightkilled, then we lynch the other as they are proven Mafia.

We are very likely on the brink of losing here if you mislynch, and my defense here is to prevent you from lynching me, or any town member for that matter. We would be left with 12 players tomorrow, which means that only 5 mafia members are required to win the game (since unu votes for himself all the time).
If there are 12 players tomorrow, there would be 14 votes in total (always one vote on me + hips double vote). There would have to be placed 8 votes on me (or 7 on nl) to create a majority.
So, if:
- hip is town there would have to be:

Unu(8): Unu, maf 1, maf 2, maf 3, maf 4, maf 5, maf 6, maf 7
Maf 1(6): Unu, townie 1, townie 2, townie 3, hipman(x2)

...7 mafias needed to lynch me.

- hip is mafia there would have to be:

Unu(8): Unu, maf 1, maf 2, maf 3, maf 4, maf 5, hip (x2)
Maf 1(6): Unu, townie 1, townie 2, townie 3, townie 4, townie 5

... 6 mafias to lynch me.


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Now, I think everyone should think of the benefits of lynching Mulb:
1. We might lynch a likely mafia
2. We let Dess and Roob get a chance to prove themselves
3. We let Rune or Erik have the chance to use their action
4. Rune or Erik might be able to prove himself.
5. We almost have a guaranteed mafia lynch next day.

Please reconsider lynching Mulb
 

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I suppose if we are 'Mass Claiming' why th
Everyone's role has been more or less confirmed except for the devil, and death if you don't think roob's report is accurate.
I personally don't think my report was accurate. I have a feeling it's something to do with the actual death card player, or someone performing deception.
 

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The same is it for you and Oog, it is a 100% chance that one of you have a antitown card that you don’t want to reveal. The only difference is that Ooglie mysteriously got killed, which likely was caused by the mafias. So, it would make much sense for you to be mafia.

If we lynch you, we will also give Roob and Dess a chance of checking Erik and Rune.
- If their results are different we will know which of Erik and Rune that has the same alignement as Roob, and which of the other Dess has the same alignment as. Then it should also be easier to figure out which of those that are mafias
- If their results are the same, then great! We got a liar.
- If the townie of them (Roob or Dess) gets nightkilled, then we lynch the other as they are proven Mafia.



If there are 12 players tomorrow, there would be 14 votes in total (always one vote on me + hips double vote). There would have to be placed 8 votes on me (or 7 on nl) to create a majority.
So, if:
- hip is town there would have to be:

Unu(8): Unu, maf 1, maf 2, maf 3, maf 4, maf 5, maf 6, maf 7
Maf 1(6): Unu, townie 1, townie 2, townie 3, hipman(x2)

...7 mafias needed to lynch me.

- hip is mafia there would have to be:

Unu(8): Unu, maf 1, maf 2, maf 3, maf 4, maf 5, hip (x2)
Maf 1(6): Unu, townie 1, townie 2, townie 3, townie 4, townie 5

... 6 mafias to lynch me.


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Now, I think everyone should think of the benefits of lynching Mulb:
1. We might lynch a likely mafia
2. We let Dess and Roob get a chance to prove themselves
3. We let Rune or Erik have the chance to use their action
4. Rune or Erik might be able to prove himself.
5. We almost have a guaranteed mafia lynch next day.

Please reconsider lynching Mulb
I disagree, I think Erik is the more likely option. I say we go ahead and lynch Erik and I will try to block Mul tonight to prevent her from in acting anything cheeky. I don't get why you're very in the middle but I don't see the benefit of keeping Erik alive when we have nothing to counter his poisoning except for me. If we lynch Erik and I counter Mul; we can think about it tomorrow and see if she has killed someone.

There's a much bigger benefit in stopping Erik which we have more evidence to prove he is Mafia.
 

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I dont trust dess.

I dont know what to do in this game today, I just feel its so extremely hard to make a decission.

There are obviously more than 2 mafia members left, and magician is a card that has previously been concidered evil, in this thread.

What other cards do we think are evil?
 

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I dont trust dess.

I dont know what to do in this game today, I just feel its so extremely hard to make a decission.

There are obviously more than 2 mafia members left, and magician is a card that has previously been concidered evil, in this thread.

What other cards do we think are evil?
I personally think the moon is at least third party. The tarot description seems to insinuate deception.
 

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And why's that?
1. There is no evidence of there being a poisoner, in fact it haven't even been any hints or texts that could hint towards it.
2. Each rolename is losely aligned with the ability. If you find a tarot card that could be about poison please tell.
3. If Ooglie/Aqua was poisoned, they would most likely be notified and they would tell us about it. With them not being notified it kinda hints towards there not being any poison in place at all.
4. Nobody died during the second day, why didn't Erik poison someone then?
5. Erik being a poisoner would allow the mafia 1 kill each night and 1 during the day which honestly is quite unbalanced imo.
6. It doesn't make any sense to have a poisoner that can't be dealt with.
7. Before/after Aqua died Notty talked about a gun.
 
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