Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

[TheWeakGuy48_]

Anyway I'm gonna be honest here and there's either 1 (Iggish) or 2 mafia remaining(Iggish + someone else). Iggish is really grasping at straws here; with accusation on me, unu and Danni.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

TheWeak, have you said what happened when you used your ability?

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

We have 100% established now that in most cases, the tarot card links to the person's alignment. The Moon stands for illusion, fear and mystery. This just sounds overall negative but I guess there could be an exception?

You put Choco's Tarot Card(the high priestess) as someone that was likely to be scum, yet he ended up being our second most important PR.

The room closes in on ChocoFox and puts them in a noose. The card that falls out of their hand is The High Priestess.

Spoiler: The High Priestess

Win Condition: All threats to town are eliminated
> Night Action: Target one player, they are protected from night kills

 

[Iggish]

Okay guys I know what we can do, but my plan relies on that ender is 3rd Party, otherwise we are screwed.
Today we lynch Iggish
Tonight Danni will die
Tomorrow we lynch Myuser
Tomorrow night TWG/Dess will die
NOW on overmorrow, we got 1 third party(ender), 1 town and 1 mafia (that town player being TWG/dess). Now because of Unu's role, the hanged man, he already has a vote on himself. This means that overmorrow we can lynch Unu when there's 3 players remaining.

But what if there are two mafia?

 

[Iggish]

You put Choco's Tarot Card(the high priestess) as someone that was likely to be scum, yet he ended up being our second most important PR.

That was because I had to make a list of the 6 people with the most scummy tarot cards and IIRC the High Priestess was the least scummy.

Wait TWG, what point are you even making here?

 

[Enderfive]

Okay guys I know what we can do, but my plan relies on that ender is 3rd Party, otherwise we are screwed.
Today we lynch Iggish
Tonight Danni will die
Tomorrow we lynch Myuser
Tomorrow night TWG/Dess will die
NOW on overmorrow, we got 1 third party(ender), 1 town and 1 mafia (that town player being TWG/dess). Now because of Unu's role, the hanged man, he already has a vote on himself. This means that overmorrow we can lynch Unu when there's 3 players remaining.

no

 

[Iggish]

I think you are a bit confused. What I said was that we had no reason to lynch Ender today, since the situation we would then have tomorrow will be the same, and it would only be delaying our problems.

Oh ok, my bad

 

[Enderfive]

Okay guys I know what we can do, but my plan relies on that ender is 3rd Party, otherwise we are screwed.
Today we lynch Iggish
Tonight Danni will die
Tomorrow we lynch Myuser
Tomorrow night TWG/Dess will die
NOW on overmorrow, we got 1 third party(ender), 1 town and 1 mafia (that town player being TWG/dess). Now because of Unu's role, the hanged man, he already has a vote on himself. This means that overmorrow we can lynch Unu when there's 3 players remaining.

i keep trying to put it into words why this plan is completely retarded and doesn't fit into the situation we have right now, but it seems you've come up with something so out of touch with reality that i can't even begin to formulate where it turns dumb

 

[Iggish]

Anyway I'm gonna be honest here and there's either 1 (Iggish) or 2 mafia remaining(Iggish + someone else). Iggish is really grasping at straws here; with accusation on me, unu and Danni.

How am I grasping at straws? I have given justification for all my suspicions and I have been suspicious of you and Danni for quite a while now.
Stop trying to discredit my arguments.

 

[Iggish]

Danni122112 because he hasn't claimed yet. He was pretty adamant about claiming his rolename and is the only one who hasn't claimed a role. Why he would wait with claiming his role feels odd to me. Maybe we are overlooking something about his tarot card?

TWG could you explain this? It seems to contradict quite a bit with what you were saying earlier today:

I mean I suspected Danni to be cop, he gave several hints in the game:

If you suspected him of being cop, then why did you say "Why he would wait with claiming his role feels odd to me"? This would just draw unwanted attention to someone who you suspected of being a cop?

 

[Iggish]

myusername22 who did you watch on night one?

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Night 1 I was really suspicious of Notty and was afraid a cop might visit and get a report and then people might try to bring up the 'it must be a lawyer/framer' argument I've seen in a lot of games. Nobody visited Notty on this night.

Night 2 I visited Danni. Nobody visited him.

Night 3 I visited Dess. Nobody visited him.

 

[Danni122112]

But what was the point of that? Either way, Danni most likely wouldn't (and didn't) out himself anyway.

If notty showed as town, and was important, I would most likely have outed.

Replying to a few posts as I read through this

 

[Iggish]

If notty showed as town, and was important, I would most likely have outed.

Replying to a few posts as I read through this

Eh alright, agree to differ.
I can already see how an argument like this would go:
"No you wouldn't have"
"Yes I would've, there was a doctor"
"But the mafia probably (and did) have a watcher so then they'd find out the doctor and then kill you, so you wouldn't have claimed"
"Yes I would've as we didn't know if there was a watcher"
etc etc.

 

[Danni122112]

i keep trying to put it into words why this plan is completely retarded and doesn't fit into the situation we have right now, but it seems you've come up with something so out of touch with reality that i can't even begin to formulate where it turns dumb

Righto, I mostly agree with what you said here, so before we hammer we need a plan.

 

[Iggish]

Danni is either town or 3rd party. He's deffo not mafia

May I also remind people of this. Roob (a confirmed mafia), seemed 100% sure that Danni wasn't mafia. This paired with Danni defending Notty and the fact that the mafia didn't pick up on his quite obvious clues of being a cop doesn't necessarily prove him of being scum, but it should definitely be enough for people not to just blindly trust him and chalk him and TWG off as town.

 

[Danni122112]

Eh alright, agree to differ.
I can already see how an argument like this would go:
"No you wouldn't have"
"Yes I would've, there was a doctor"
"But the mafia probably (and did) have a watcher so then they'd find out the doctor and then kill you, so you wouldn't have claimed"
"Yes I would've as we didn't know if there was a watcher"
etc etc.

I mean, you can go read the posts and what I said the cop should do, but at this point I don’t really care what you think, as it seems everyone else believes me it doesn’t really matter.

 

[Iggish]

but at this point I don’t really care what you think, as it seems everyone else believes me it doesn’t really matter.

???
Where are you getting this from?

 

[Danni122112]

May I also remind people of this. Roob (a confirmed mafia), seemed 100% sure that Danni wasn't mafia. This paired with Danni defending Notty and the fact that the mafia didn't pick up on his quite obvious clues of being a cop doesn't necessarily prove him of being scum, but it should definitely be enough for people not to just blindly trust him and chalk him and TWG off as town.

Best argument you have come with so far, however, let’s see why roob could have said this.

His claim was pretty trusted, and this would make me want to trust him.

If he was killed I would seem like scum.

Seems like there was no reason for roob not to say this?

 

[Danni122112]

???
Where are you getting this from?

I have not seen otherwise.

 

[Iggish]

I have not seen otherwise.

So you just think that everyone 100% believes your claim except me?

 

[Iggish]

Best argument you have come with so far, however, let’s see why roob could have said this.

His claim was pretty trusted, and this would make me want to trust him.

If he was killed I would seem like scum.

Seems like there was no reason for roob not to say this?

Yes, as you said, his claim was pretty trusted, so as a mafia he didn't expect to die. He tried to rub some of the trust off onto you.

Also, he could've said that as he deciphered your hints about being a cop and so wanted no negative association with you when you died or he tried to kill you.
But guess what, you didn't die, surprise surprise.

 

[Danni122112]

Enderfive

I am happy to see that you think Iggish is mafia, as I have been a bit suspicious of him all game, and he has been my main suspect for mafia today.

My short plan is this:
Lynch iggish today
We both pray to god that iggish is mafia.
If iggish flips mafia, you will be lynched tomorrow.
You kill whoever you find most likely mafia.

We need to convince the rest to lynch iggish today

We need to figure out a plan for what to do after oh are dead. This plan should be set it stone today.

We need to take height for that tomorrow when I’m dead, will be a clusterfuck. The remaining mafia member will probably try to fuck us. If the mafia member is my username, he can fuck us pretty good.

My plan for tomorrow is that ender five runs the show, and kills the remaining mafia member on his way out, I need to run the math on what happens if he doesn’t, and see where we are

For the remaining villagers, for the love of god listen to ender tomorrow and what he has to say. He is our best remaining mafia player. If he is lying he could probably fuck us over without us trusting him anyway.

For the love of God, do not refrain from lynching ender tomorrow. I am about 90% sure that iggish is mafia, and ender has done us a great favour segmenting this claim. Stabbing him in the back tomorrow will be a dick move, and could throw the game.

I think we got a very solid chance at winning this game, please don’t fuck it up.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

"But the mafia probably (and did) have a watcher so then they'd find out the doctor and then kill you, so you wouldn't have claimed"

No mafias have revealed watcher yet????

Spoiler

[BCOLOR=transparent]The room closes in on Nottykitten and puts them in a noose. The card that falls out of their hand is The Tower.[/BCOLOR]

[BCOLOR=transparent]Win Condition: Living Mafia players make up half or more of the living players without any possible threats[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]> Night Action: Target one player, they are roleblocked[/BCOLOR]

The room closes in on Mulbery and puts them in a noose. The card that falls out of their hand is The Devil.

Win Condition: Living Mafia players make up half or more of the living players without any possible threats
> Passive:
Alignment appears as town to any investigative roles
Has the final say on Mafia Night Kill

The room closes in on erik5456 and puts them in a noose. The card that falls out of their hand is Death

Win Condition: Living Mafia players make up half or more of the living players without any possible threats
> Night Action: Target a player, if they utter the words “death” in any part of their posts (excluding quotes) in the next day, they instantly die

The lights flicker on. You gasp with horror as Roobarb Pie blood stain the ground. Their cards are Judgement

Win Condition: Living Mafia players make up half or more of the living players without any possible threats
> Night Action: Target one player, you receive their role name at the end of the night

 

[Danni122112]

So you just think that everyone 100% believes your claim except me?

You can’t believe anything 100% in mafia. I have a reasonably good explanation for my actions, especially with my cop claim I have reasons for all my actions.

You have only tried to throw shade on my actions, you have however not tried to explain why there should not be a cop in the game. We have pretty solid proof that there is a cop in the game. I am very surprised you have not tried to claim cop yourself to stop my claim.