Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

[Danni122112]

Ender and Danni were also the only two other people to defend notty

did you even read enders post about this?

 

[Danni122112]

You know what, sorry Iggish, you are being lynched today. I will be waiting on the other peoples opinions, including you Enderfive , I can see you reading this.

arguin with iggish is not giving much new, and ertainly not going anywhere.

 

[Iggish]

He is getting a kill on his way out

Why do you trust this?

he can tell people what to vote

Why should the entire town rely on a third party who has already deceived the town by falsely defending notty?

I found TWG's plan somewhat lackluster, as ender said. I havent really seen dess type much about myusername or unu, and he will probably be dead last day. I would prefer if we have chosen our target before that.

What do you mean by this?

Ender seems to have a good grasp of the game.

???

Why should he care? Well, decency mostly, he does not have a reason to want to fuck us over, we are giving him his win. He can chose not to care, and just fuck off, and dess can decide at day 6 who to kill at day 7,

But we should not trust the future of the town on the shoulders of a third party's judgment. That's just stupid.

 

[Iggish]

did you even read enders post about this?

Making a post on a subject does not make a point invalid. Please try to understand this.

 

[Iggish]

You know what, sorry Iggish, you are being lynched today. I will be waiting on the other peoples opinions, including you Enderfive , I can see you reading this.

arguin with iggish is not giving much new, and ertainly not going anywhere.

But didn't you say that you would wait for me to present info on myuser and unu. Why are you suddenly changing your mind and saying that I should be lynched now?

 

[Iggish]

Also TheWeakGuy48_ could you answer those questions please?

 

[Unusual_Dood]

These are enders old quotes.

So our plan is as follows, I assume I will be killed tonight, however, if they kill Dess instead, I will be alive to change the plan, so no need to add something about this, I also assume there are two mafia members left, since if there is one, well, we win. It's not possible its three, unless ender is mafia instead of third party, which is extremely unlikely.

We lynch Iggish

Spoiler: If Iggish is town

We dun goofed. Lynch Unu, ender, or myusername tomorrow, we are pretty fucked and I'd rather not think too much about this.

Night goes through, myusername has been watching me, maybe they get some useful info, maybe they don't.
Either way, I am most likely dead.

That leaves these people alive: DAY 6
TWG
Myusername
Unu
Ender
Dess

Username says his report, ender say's his opinions, ender is lynched.
Before ender is lynched, I would prefer if enderfive could dig up as much as possible, about myusername and UNU, finding out who is most likely mafia.
Villagers, lynch ender, do not even think about not doing it. He will fuck you over if you dont.

Dess probably dies in the night.

That leaves these people alive: DAY 7
TWG
Myusername
UNU

TWG gets to chose, myusername or UNU, and choses the win or lose.


From what I can see, enderfive can chose to kill someone on his way out, and decide for us, I am fine with that, as long as he has done his best to figure out who maf is. If he do not want to do that, but rather leave his reccomendation on his way out, that is also fine.

On day 7, follow enderfive's reccomendations, villagers. Do not waste time arguing with each other, it will just lead to confusion.


Enderfive
Dess
Unusual_Dood
myusername22
TheWeakGuy48_

We shouldn't let Ender decide who we are lynching on Day 7. I can agree that we should spend Day 6 figuring out who to lynch next day, but we don't know if Ender has any interest in getting mafia killed Day 7, so it might be a bad idea to just blindly follow his lead.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Iggish, I think the best way you can help town right now is to help us figure out who of me and Myuser we should lynch on Day 7.

 

[Iggish]

Iggish, I think the best way you can help town right now is to help us figure out who of me and Myuser we should lynch on Day 7.

I said I was more susp of you but the fact that myuser isn't contributing anything at the moment is certainly suspicious IMO.

 

[Iggish]

I said I was more susp of you but the fact that myuser isn't contributing anything at the moment is certainly suspicious IMO.

I mean, he simply could just not have anything to say, but it could also be that as a mafia, he is content to just let me get lynched without interfering at all. You on the other hand are being non bias and openly discussing yourself as a lynch option, which I do not see a mafia doing.

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

I must've misunderstood then. I tried to find the post you made, but I couldn't find it so I just took it from memory.

And for the second quote I got a feeling that you were acting kind of desperate, and tried to frame me and danni. Of course it is a natural reaction to defend yourself when under pressure, so idk what I was on then.

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

The dealine is the 14th April, but I kinda want to lynch Iggish since there's not really anyone else to lynch.

Vote Iggish

 

[Danni122112]

We shouldn't let Ender decide who we are lynching on Day 7. I can agree that we should spend Day 6 figuring out who to lynch next day, but we don't know if Ender has any interest in getting mafia killed Day 7, so it might be a bad idea to just blindly follow his lead.

I mean, I will be dead at that point so you can do what you want, but yeah please figure it out on day 6, when there are 3 towns(2 of these confirmed), one third party and one mafia, not on day 7 when there are two towns(one of these confirmed) and one mafia.

 

[Danni122112]

Unusual_Dood Dess you guys ready?

myusername22 anything you want to say?

Dig deep in the history of the of the remaining players tomorrow.

 

[Danni122112]

For the record when I am dead, I am really not sure about wether killing UNU or myuser.

myuser is quiet, its convinient that he hasnt gotten any mafia info before(may be random, of course), and him getting info about the last mafia member tomorrow, would be again, convinient, my gut goes more for him being mafia than UNU.

Unu makes these long nice posts posts with a table thing, which I myself often do especially as mafia, but also as town, I cant think of anything about this, but just sticks out to me.
Unu not trusting ender, while completely sensible, might be something the mafia wouldnt want to happen.
Iggish saying he is supicious of unu, but more supicious of myuser is, complicated. Can mean that iggish wants us to believe myuser is mafia, can be that when iggish flips mafia, he wants us to think unu is mafia, too much tripple pshycology here for it to makse sense.

I find this hard.

A large part of this is because myuser is so quiet, but that doesnt mean he is mafia, it just makes him harder to read.

 

[Danni122112]

Unusual_Dood
can you please in detail desribe your role?

 

[Iggish]

I must've misunderstood then. I tried to find the post you made, but I couldn't find it so I just took it from memory.

And for the second quote I got a feeling that you were acting kind of desperate, and tried to frame me and danni. Of course it is a natural reaction to defend yourself when under pressure, so idk what I was on then.

Pfft no, you were trying to manipulate me. I have valid reasons for saying you and Danni are suspicious.

 

[Danni122112]

I'm the town's watcher. I visit someone and get a report of everyone else who has visited them. \


Anyway, onto my post. I guess I don't really have as much to say as I thought since after I've caught up it seems like many people share my same feelings, but here it goes:

First there's almost no way erik can be innocent. he lied about his role claim which means he is death (unless he claimed a different mafia member's card, which is a possibility, but would obviously expose a mafia member) Sure, one could argue that rune could have been death and erik innocent, but this whole situation feels like a repeat of yesterday where Ooglie died and Mul was the remaining CC. Not to mention the theories people have been throwing around about people dying after saying the word death and that being one of death's abilities. I think this theory makes a lot of sense to me and I feel 90% confident that erik is probably death and has been performing these kills somehow. Only thing that I think is weird with that is that I thought rune was going to roleblock erik, but maybe he changed his mind at the last minute. (this could suggest we should lynch roob before erik, but I think that their both confirmed mafia at this point anyway.

Ontop of that Erik has claimed an incredibly unlikely role. I feel that the role isn't necessarily impossible, but it's incredibly rare and unlikely.

I also feel that roob is definitely mafia.

Why did he just claim out of nowhere in the beginning?
I think he is the mafia sided role cop. I think he and dess have the same role, but different alignments. I feel that he just claimed in the beginning to get his card known and to get his role established so he didn't look suspicious in a mass claim later. I don't know if he knew someone in the town had the same role when he claimed, but I feel it's very strange that he stayed alive for all this time. He now claims to be a 3rd party, but the mafia generally don't know who is 3rd party or not, and besides even if they did they'd have no reason to let a 3rd party cop run around and risk exposing some of their own members since they needed to conceal the devil's role card (And I'm going to assume Erik is the devil and is also mafia sided) which means that if roob were 3rd party he would've been killed anyway. Not to mention his recent changes and arguments just look scummy in my eyes.

as far as other suspicions go, I'm getting a strong Vibe on Danni at this point. for a lot of the pages I've been skimming and haven't been taking great notes lately, so I can't really point to any specific posts, but a lot of his arguments just don't add up for me, and I can't really understand a lot of the things he's been suggesting. I feel like he's been defending scum at odd points, but i'd have to go back and check for references to show some specific cases.

More importantly though, I'm suspicious of him for wanting to lynch ender today. With Notty and Mul dead and the mafia losing at least 1 member soon (2 if we assume erik is mafia) the mafia realize this isn't going well. lynching ender is something I would really expect a panicking mafia to do since it at the very least lowers the towns numbers a bit and delays them from getting killed. We have 2 practically guaranteed anti town in front of us and he wants to kill ender? It just doesn't make any sense from a townie perspective. I'm not saying we should lynch him at this time since we have erik and roob first and more information could easily surface in these next two days, but I'm just a little suspicious of him right now.

Just wanted to throw some of my thoughts out there.

VOTE ERIK

I have read through most of myusername's posts.

There were so few it wasnt too hard.

myusername's watcher role, makes me think its weird that notty would also claim a "watcher role" when we sort of have one, of myser was mafia.

none of his posts come across as scummy, except by the sheer lack of posts at all.

this post quoted above is a post I vibe as pretty town.

 

[Danni122112]

She is the most suspicious for me atm, and im slightly suspicious of mulb a rune

this was on day 50, while notty was still alive.

I scum-reading (heh you get this reference unu and twg, idk what its called in english) all of unu's post, will be a few posts, because its fucking hard to get all posts on a page when you got 30 tabs open.

 

[Danni122112]

This is nice and all, but can we please not lynch him before everyone has spoken and have stuff to say. There’s also a few questions I would like people to answer:

Fog: Am I correct saying you lost your vote day 1 and got watcher + tracker ability night 3? What happened to you on night 2, and what happened to you this night?

Erik: who did you visit last night, and who did you visit night 3?

Rune: who did you visit?

Iggish: am I correct saying you visited comp night 1, hip night2 and Rune night 3? And who did you visit night 4?

Roobarn Pie: Who did you visit and whst was your result?

Myusername: Who did you watch and what was your result (pleas say this after everyone has said who they visited this night so we can see if someone is lying)?

I also have a theory that someone here might have lost their vote, so can everyone check that their vote works before the day ends.

this potentially has one town, one third party, and 4 mafia members in it, or 3 maf, two town, and 1 third party, which is interesitng

 

[Danni122112]

That is at least not the reason for my lynch. My reason: either Oog or Mul was lying, and Oog got killed by what very likely was caused by the mafias. So oog was probably town and Mul therefore evil

we wasnt sure of this, at this point, so you can say he is maf for knowing that, or common sense. either way he helped getting maf lynched.

 

[Danni122112]

Also here is what Im thinking:

Notty is evil
Mulb is evil
Dess is evil

oh well

 

[Danni122112]

Here are what I think about people currently.

Erik
Erik is in my eyes basically proven mafia. It is almost certain that mafia is the cause of all the daykills, and that means Rune wasn't mafia, and since Erik counter claimed Rune that makes Erik mafia. It is possible that Erik is a bus driver as I have mentioned earlier because Roobarb's claimed investigation result was assumably an incorrect role for Ooglie. Fog also said he watched Erik visit Ooglie, something Erik confirmed, which could mean Erik visited Ooglie as a bus driver role.

Dess
At this point I believe Dess is town. I doubt that there is no town role cop, while 2 antitown role cops. It would make sense for Dess to act as he has, and I find nothing concerning about his tarot card.

Roobarb Pie
I currently think that Roobarb Pie is either third party as he claims or mafia. He said his win condition is to survive with at least 1 of 2 tarot cards he knew, and I believe his ability makes sense, as he is able to figure out who he has to win with. It is however a chance he is mafia trying to survive further as we have nothing to gain lynching him if he is telling the truth. But I feel like he is telling the truth currently. He said 1 of the 2 players are already dead and one remaining. Infected was the hermit and his first part of the win condition was the same, so it would make sense for him to be one of the players. I checked posts from the first day and Roob immidietly unvotes Infected after he claimed Hermit, so this makes me believe he is telling the truth. However, if he was mafia this could be the reason for why they haven't kill Dess or Roob in an attempt at getting rid of two nonmafia players.

Fog
I am not sure where I stand with Fog at the moment. His role does makes sense for his tarot card, but I unless I have missed something I don't feel like it makes sense with win condition claim. Why would he gain abilities, when he is trying to survive. It might also be possible that Fog is the last player who Roob needs to win with, since they all claimed to have the same win condition.

Enderfive
I am quite sure Ender is the Fool. This is because it has been claimed by 3 different people, Roob (role cop), Ender himself and Dess (role cop). He also said he gains the ability to kill someone if he is dead. I don't really buy this claim, as I doubt he will directly get the chance to influence the town vs mafia battle, when he has already won. However, it might be possible for all I know but I do at least not think we should rely on this if/when we choose to lynch Ender.

Danni

Im not sure what I think about Danni. He did defend Notty, however he do give me town vibes.

TheWeak/One one two
For One one two, I feel like he has been acting rather suspicious. He has, as iggish mentioned, been vague with his posts, and have been inactive and not countributed very much except for with your vote, in the game. However, I don't find your tarot card very suspicious in my opinion. It seems to be connected to the moon and you and Weaks role are slightly connected, as you both get a once during the game action.
However, Weaks tarot card, the moon seems suspicious. I cannot say I have found his acting this game suspicious, but he did claim after One one two which might be because he wanted to make he and 112's claim seem connected, and remove suspicion.

Myuser
If I had to choose I would have thought that Myuser was probably town. His tarot card and role seem to be connected, but he hasn't been able to prove himself and he gained litterally no good information in all three first nights.

Iggish

Not sure. I don't think he is lying about his role, as several people have gotten the messages and said so, but he could perhaps be a mafia messenger.

pretty accurate

 

[Iggish]

The dealine is the 14th April, but I kinda want to lynch Iggish since there's not really anyone else to lynch.

Vote Iggish

Are... are you actually serious? You accuse me of trying to frame you went I have perfectly good reasons and then your reason for lynching me is that there is no-one else to lynch????

What about lynching ender? That would be a confirmed no mislynch.

 

[Danni122112]

Righto, I don't think there is much more relevant, unless you want to dig up all mafia members posts too, and overanalyze those.

the more I look back at the game, the more surprised I am that I have neither been lynched by town, nor killed by mafia lol