To form a dictatorship. If any of the 5 council members are Mafia that means the Mafia will know who the dictator is, while if the council exists out of 5 town Members the Mafia wont know which of the 5 council members is installed as dictator.
Everyone claims Citizen/Non-Citizen (Aka Citizen/PR).
Anyone who is a PR says if they're one of 5 special roles. (Reticent, Vengeful, Bulletproof + Whistleblower? + Protester?).
5 special roles form a council, install 1 person as dictator. Dictator + Assassin murder some citizen claims?
idk if ur asking why those 2 roles or why 5 overall but 5 is to ensure maf dont know dictator
if its the 2 roles then they're the 2 most useless after venge/ret/b.p i guess
The fact is wrong. If we go with autocracy town has 3 kills: lynch, dictator kill and assassin. If mafias and rev kills 2 townies each night we can mislynch/miskill 6 times and still win. Here's a table showing so:
With a massclaim we lose assassins kill ability, so we had have 2 kills instead of 3. We had also lose all other PRs which could prevent mafias from getting 2 kills and that will lessen the mafia suspect pool.
The fact is wrong. If we go with autocracy town has 3 kills: lynch, dictator kill and assassin. If mafias and rev kills 2 townies each night we can mislynch/miskill 6 times and still win. Here's a table showing so:
With a massclaim we lose assassins kill ability, so we had have 2 kills instead of 3. We had also lose all other PRs which could prevent mafias from getting 2 kills and that will lessen the mafia suspect pool.
Everyone claims Citizen/Non-Citizen (Aka Citizen/PR).
Anyone who is a PR says if they're one of 5 special roles. (Reticent, Vengeful, Bulletproof + Whistleblower? + Protester?).
5 special roles form a council, install 1 person as dictator. Dictator + Assassin murder some citizen claims?
I don't understand, this is just straight up a worse version of your plan. In your plan atleast we have to (maybe not randomly) kill out of a pool of 13, oogs plan allows mafia to claim town pr without being immediately counterclaimed.
To form a dictatorship. If any of the 5 council members are Mafia that means the Mafia will know who the dictator is, while if the council exists out of 5 town Members the Mafia wont know which of the 5 council members is installed as dictator.
I don't understand, this is just straight up a worse version of your plan. In your plan atleast we have to (maybe not randomly) kill out of a pool of 13, oogs plan allows mafia to claim town pr without being immediately counterclaimed.
LITERALLY NEVER SAID I DO NOT WANT A MASSCLAIM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
(Although I believe there are better ways of going forward, really situational tbh)
personally I'm fine if we go into night without them claiming as I'm pretty sure we have a town majority if we go with the people I've selected, especially since fali turned out to be one of the three potential partial clears
The fact is wrong. If we go with autocracy town has 3 kills: lynch, dictator kill and assassin. If mafias and rev kills 2 townies each night we can mislynch/miskill 6 times and still win. Here's a table showing so:
With a massclaim we lose assassins kill ability, so we had have 2 kills instead of 3. We had also lose all other PRs which could prevent mafias from getting 2 kills and that will lessen the mafia suspect pool.
Mafia aren't going to only have 1 kill per night though because they have the poisonor and the tox can't save the poisonor because otherwise the bus driver will send them to the granny, so mafia have 2 kills per night until poisonor dies unless we get lucky and block them
That means we can only mislynch 3 times (correct me if I'm wrong), which is unlikely in a pool of 26 players
We could use our watcher on the poisoned person to ensure that doesn't happen I guess, that frees up the dictator's ability to be nightkilled though, which means we'll have 4 mislynches (again correct me if I'm wrong I'm not calculating this in depth since I have revision to do for exams so I'm just kinda using what seems about right) if dictator dies twice (since we're forced to NL and miss a lynch twice)
So we're going to likely have 3 or 4 mislynches not 6
How many mislynches can we make if we massclaim again?
I don't understand, this is just straight up a worse version of your plan. In your plan atleast we have to (maybe not randomly) kill out of a pool of 13, oogs plan allows mafia to claim town pr without being immediately counterclaimed.
we're expecting most mafia to claim citizen because if they don't then we force a massclaim and they out themselves and we stand much better chances of lynching them successfully
the point is that we don't jump to full massclaim until we need to
we're expecting most mafia to claim citizen because if they don't then we force a massclaim and they out themselves and we stand much better chances of lynching them successfully
the point is that we don't jump to full massclaim until we need to
I mean in the case of ccing we have no definitive way of proving someones alignment OTHER than with a democracy so how are you going to tell who's telling the truth and who's lying other than vibes?
To form a dictatorship. If any of the 5 council members are Mafia that means the Mafia will know who the dictator is, while if the council exists out of 5 town Members the Mafia wont know which of the 5 council members is installed as dictator.
a) whistleblower's action is more effective when he isn't on the council
b) the protester will kill himself if he's elected to the court due to some dumb shit happening in the council again
c) literally any
we're expecting most mafia to claim citizen because if they don't then we force a massclaim and they out themselves and we stand much better chances of lynching them successfully
the point is that we don't jump to full massclaim until we need to
if the maf have any brains they will have figured out their good counterclaim options by now and from what i could see, there's no more or less than seven different non-citizen claims that would be quite comfortable for them
i'm not gonna say what they are because that would negate any possibility that there is left that they have not seen all the options for feasible counterclaims, but honestly, you don't have to be a mafia genius to see them
you're expecting maf to claim citizen because that's what would be comfy for us, but if you think they're simply going to accept your plan with all its assumptions, you've got another thing coming for you
