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Danni122112 said:
Just a question, have you read all of my other post against notty? The reason I am asking is because you have not argued against them. When you keep saying that my point is false, while ignoring my arguments, it’s exhausting to try and make you understand why she most obviously be mafia.

So let’s break this up in two points, nottys actions, and what a rev would want.

Nottys actions.
Look more in my other posts, I won’t go in more detail here, but generally being scummy, and outing ender for no reason (she still has not responded to why she hasn’t outed ender). I don’t know if you understand how bad it is for us to have ender outed, but trust me, it is.


What rev wants:
Rev can not be killed during the night, meaning can’t be killed by mafia. The rev will also appear as town if checked. So a rev can pass off as an unkillable townie, if they don’t bloody put themselves.

So let’s say notty actually was rev, as we were lost likely were going for democracy tonight, she could have been subpoenaed, and cleared as a townie.

Even looking away from that, there is literally no reason EVER, for a rev to put themselves. It makes absolutely no sense, and if they do put themselves, it’s simply to survive for a short amount of time, before stabbing town in the back. This should only happen if they are on the brink of beIng lynched. Notty was not.

If you, or anyone, got any doubts and arguments against this, please post them to me, and stop ignoring my arguments and just say you believe notty is rev and that we should not lynch rev.

Notty is being smug as fuck, which actually makes me afraid. It means she either thinks she can totally trick us and fuck us over, or that mafia got something bad planned tonight that we did not expect.

Either way our only option is to lynch her.
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You seem to not understand my win conditions at all so let me spell it out for you.

Becoming dictator: impossible because town would only elect unCC'd town members and Mafia their own aka whether I was hidden or not I would never become dictator since I would never be unCC town or mafia.

Living through 3 autocracies: impossible without me personally interfering and maling autocracies happen. Had I not gone in the spotlight and forced an autocracy so that were down to 4 council members right now, we might have had 5 council members for maybe another 2 days which is would of made getting 2 more autocracies after that completely impossible. By acting yesterday and getting autocracy I have made this win condition actually possible.

Living till the last day: this involves me not being lynched forever which will only happen if I'm in a position where the town needs me. I've created this position since town is completely lost without me from this point which means I'm not going to be lynched.


You say its extremely bad that I outed Ender today and that is exactly my point. It IS bad for the town which is why I did it. The more at a disadvantage the town is the more they realize they need me and the more likely I will nit be lynched. If you think any of my actions were against my win condition then you really dont get how hard it is to actually reach those win conditions without personally being the architect of this game.

I cant just sit around and wait for my win conditions to happen because none of them are going to happen without me personally making them happen. If the Maf wins I dont so I need to be active in order to win which is what Ive done.
 
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Infected_alien8_ said:
until you actually read and consider my posts and stop calling anyone who disagrees with you stupid, even though you're wrong, im just going to ignore you from here on out
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tbh i feel bad saying this soz <3 and as much as i dont want to spam the thread with repeating myself over and over i cant just leave it ITS JUST NOT IN MY NATURE


Notty doing what she did made sense because

a) it pushed her towards one of her win conditions
b) although it made her suspicious, it made it so the town needed her alive, which is why she claimed so that they didnt kill her
 
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LISTINGS09 said:
It's a smart play, but seems like the only one of few tactics left after their performance on the council.
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Claiming was always my plan after I'd caused a council disaster.

Also sorry for these posts where I only react to one person but Im on phone and havent read the last 2 pages yet but I want to respond to people being wrong
 
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Infected_alien8_ said:
yeah i was just writing a post being like "actually theres YOU"

it could be me, you, fali and roob then?
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it would probably help if i knew whether i was on board with autocracy or not!!
but im fine with being in any councils ever since i see very little use in my role if my report is scrapped for dead people
 
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Infected_alien8_ said:
If she thought she could be nightkilled by town then she had a reason to claim, to ensure that never happened. After last night she said she thought she'd be suspected (and she was, by the Assassin) and thus was worried about being killed by them in the night or killed by the dictator. Claiming in this scenario makes complete sense, provided she didn't think she could be Mafia night-killed
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I never said this I said I wasnt worried at all by town nightkills since town needs me.

Aqua said:
But her initial actions don't make sense inf. If she was good she wouldn't have ended up in this position, it's far more likely a member of mafia trying to survive another day especially after all the damage she did last night.
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I am good and this is exactly the position a the Revo wants to be in so what even are you talking about
 
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Danni122112 said:
She is claiming she did anti town action, to fuck town so hard sideways to the wall that they are practically begging for it, you want to tryst this person??? This does not make sense for a rev to do, and even if she was rev, her only interest is fucking the game.

Stop being stupid inf, you are better than this.
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"Being in a position where the town is fucked so much they need the Revo or they lose is not a position the revo wants to be in"

Are you sure Danni are you suuuuure
 
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Danni122112 said:
She is not the fucking rev, wether her win condition as rev, goes towards helping us is irrelevant. A rev would not play the way she has, she did not play he way a rev would before her claim. Why the actually unholy fuck so you believe her?? The only reason you believe her is because she said so. Why the duck so you trust her?? It doesn’t add up to how you play, and if you weren’t an un cced townie, I would have lined you up next.

Like check in your mind, try and imagine literally anyone else as rev, and it would be more likely, why the hell do you think it’s notty.

Because you are an un cced townie, I trust you are town, but holy fuck STEP UP YOUR GAME INFFY.
You are embarrassing yourself.
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Why dont you check your mind and tell me how you expect a Revo to play so I can tell you all ways that is going to lead to the revo losing. Maybe then youll realize my plays have been optimal
 
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Infected_alien8_ said:
What was your reason for choosing to claim instead of only claiming if you needed to then?
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I did need to claim since I was a prime lynch target to be lynched tomorrow. Claiming now gives the town a chance to work with me + threatening Ender only solidifies how much theyll need me tomorrow.

Ooglie101 said:
what council disaster
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The one where I force an autocracy which in turn causes the town to automatically no-lynch.
 
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Ooglie101 said:
but your original plan included the council consisting of pure, uncc townies
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Yes but they werent going to go autocracy so that obviously changed when I managed to get myself into the council. At that point I knew that if I managed autocracy it would be claim or lose. The fact that Ender murdered an innocent (who was the doctor) only added to my plan since town now needs me even more.
 
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