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'there's not much reason to keep notty alive, only a tiny one, so if you're suspicious of her and town read me you should vote her'
Theres not much reason to keep Inffy alive. Period. So if you're suspicious of him then you should vote her.

I mean you're AGAIN completely ignoring that I'm the town vigilante and even if you don't believe so don't take it into account in your statements that you present as facts, as if there is 0 risk in lynching me and 0 reason to keep me alive.

Lynching an unCC'd town vigilante is B A D
 

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What role do you have? I can't be arsed to go back through the thread haha
I'm the towns 1-shot vigilante. I have a prime ability and an ignite ability. Last night I used my prime ability on Omni to douse him in gasoline, and I can use my ignite ability to kill him tonight and nobody has objected to me killing Omni so far.

Inf claims to be the towns warden, with the jail ability. This jail ability is supported by Matty who power inspected him, but this does not prove his alignment. And if you ask me jail is something Law people do just saying.

People think I'm third party because of the prime/ignite ability and appearently I've been scummy but I'm more useful alive than dead + I'm the unCC'd vigilante so lynching me is a terrible decision in my opinion.
 

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so TheWeakGuy48_ assuming it comes down to me vs notty (which I'm pretty sure it will), you can vote me who you think is town, and so will lose a town number, or you can vote notty and spend 1 day lynching omni

both 'lose a town number' and 'spend 1 day lynching omni' are something you could argue are significant moments and could decide whether we win or lose, sure - both are unlikely though so I'd recommend ignoring them but even if you don't ignore them, I'd say they're equally likely (albeit both unlikely) if that makes sense
Since Inf is doing it then I have no choice but to also tag TheWeakGuy48_. Assuming it comes down to me vs Inf (which I'm 99% sure it will), you can vote your 1-shot vigilante who you're not sure of if they're third party or not, or you can actually lynch someone who could be Mafia. Not gonna pretend we have solid evidence on Inf (besides JAIL being a LAW PEOPLE thing im 99% sure its exactly that) but in my opinion he's been scummy throughout his actions and the way he speaks to people.

Inf says me turning out town is unlikely but thats up to you to believe. I'd say its pretty likely knowing my role but don't let Inf talk as if there is solid evidence against me either.
 

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so yeah everyone who is catching up ignore my 'we can investigate omni' argument since it's garbage

it's basically coming down to

do you town-read me more than notty?

if you do, vote notty to save my life and lynch an anti town, then we spend tomorrow lynching omni (which is a minuscule drawback but a drawback nonetheless)

if you don't, vote me and let notty kill omni tonight
It really isn't. It comes down to:

- are you willing to lynch the unCC'd 1-shot vigilante who wants to kill Omni tonight (where not a single person objected to this kill)
- or are you willing to lynch the claimed jailer who has a power that combines two powers town already possess (protect through Aqua and block through Shadow).

Does anybody really think that town doesn't just have an OP protection role (Aqua), a roleblocker (Shadow) and ALSO a jailer who can both protect and block in one action in the form of Inf? Two actions compressed in one is exactly something for the Mafia who are short on members.
 

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Ok but Roob consider this: I can kill Omni during the night. Inf is entirely useless.
I'm a jailer, I can save people and/or block them, so no, I'm not entirely useless

Ok but Roob consider this: I can kill Omni during the night. Inf is entirely useless.

Both our lynches have the downside of potentially lynching a town PR, his lynch has the upside of potentially getting a Mafia while my lynch has the upside of potentially getting a third party.
a town PR which has only one use mind you, and does something we can do ourselves - mine does something we can't do without me and isn't 1-shot

Also my lynch has the downside of stopping my kill against Omni.
we'll lynch omni

Also the Mafia is a threat while I as an accused arsonist pose no threat tonight or tomorrow night or according to Inf even subsequent nights.
if you think I'm mafia Roobarb Pie, vote me, otherwise I'm a bad choice
 

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Does anybody really think that town doesn't just have an OP protection role (Aqua), a roleblocker (Shadow) and ALSO a jailer who can both protect and block in one action in the form of Inf? Two actions compressed in one is exactly something for the Mafia who are short on members.
yes that's a valid argument, I can't refute that, in fact I agree with you, it's just wrong, that's all I can really say
 

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Same goes with me being Third Party, but worse since I can have a direct positive impact tonight in Omni's death who, again, nobody objected against and would gladly find out his alignment
the difference is this though

if you're telling the truth and we lynch you, we lose out on a one time kill ability, which we can carry out ourselves during the day anyway, albiet with a very minor drawback of spending a day of our time doing that (and I say very minor because it's very unlikely to mean we lose in the end)

if you're telling the truth and we lynch me, we lose someone who can do something that nobody else left in the game can (I imagine), which is block a killing role and reveal a killer to everyone, or save someone's life and stop the mafia progressing forward

so, people of the thread, if you're on the fence, then save my life and vote notty instead and we can just lynch omni tomorrow

if you think notty is more suspicious, do the same

if you think I'm more suspicious, vote me
 

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the difference is this though

if you're telling the truth and we lynch you, we lose out on a one time kill ability, which we can carry out ourselves during the day anyway, albiet with a very minor drawback of spending a day of our time doing that (and I say very minor because it's very unlikely to mean we lose in the end)

if you're telling the truth and we lynch me, we lose someone who can do something that nobody else left in the game can (I imagine), which is block a killing role and reveal a killer to everyone, or save someone's life and stop the mafia progressing forward

so, people of the thread, if you're on the fence, then save my life and vote notty instead and we can just lynch omni tomorrow

if you think notty is more suspicious, do the same

if you think I'm more suspicious, vote me
Both Aqua and Shadow can/could do what you can, and they're town. Having a third town person with both these powers combined makes no sense. + jail is something law people do. Ultimately it's up to them
 

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Both Aqua and Shadow can/could do what you can, and they're town. Having a third town person with both these powers combined makes no sense. + jail is something law people do. Ultimately it's up to them
aqua's dead but yes

using the flavour name against me I think is just silly but that's me, there's nothing that means "jail = law", I could easily be a corrupt warden, or an insane guy who locks people up in my home and tortures them or whatever, just like fali was a corrupt cop
 

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also even though shadow can block people, having two people able to do it means the mafia have to kill us both to stop us
Yes thats overpowered and unlikely to exist. You yourself claim you found it unbalanced for both you and Aqua to exist.

But now you, aqua AND shadow exist? Where you have both the powers as two town members? Thats something I personally think only a Mafia would have since why would town have a third person that combines two already existing town powers.

so if you believe I'm town then it's still an incentive to let me live
Ditto
 

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I'm late to joining in today and your logic seems sound enough to me. VOTE NOTTY.
What role do you have? I can't be arsed to go back through the thread haha
appears to not rlly have paid attention and appears to join in on voting notty just cus Hip said he had a gut feeling
okay mhm

at this point im down to lynch either twg, inf, or notty. odds are high either one of them is a good target. i think its also valuable to look at who was willing to vote who at what point.

also there is a LOT of discussion between inffy and notty going on and I think only 20% of players (perhaps optimistic) is reading through it all carefully. heck i've also been chosing doing other things over reading it all carefully.
 

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Yes thats overpowered and unlikely to exist. You yourself claim you found it unbalanced for both you and Aqua to exist.

But now you, aqua AND shadow exist? Where you have both the powers as two town members? Thats something I personally think only a Mafia would have since why would town have a third person that combines two already existing town powers.
I know, I've already said I agree with that, there's nothing I can do against that
 

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appears to not rlly have paid attention and appears to join in on voting notty just cus Hip said he had a gut feeling
okay mhm

at this point im down to lynch either twg, inf, or notty. odds are high either one of them is a good target. i think its also valuable to look at who was willing to vote who at what point.

also there is a LOT of discussion between inffy and notty going on and I think only 20% of players (perhaps optimistic) is reading through it all carefully. heck i've also been chosing doing other things over reading it all carefully.
the drawback of lynching notty is that we'll have to lynch omni on our own, so it's spending 1 day lynching someone - arguably this is a drawback but I'd say its very minor and unlikely to be significant to whether we win or lose

the drawback of lynching me is that if I'm town, we lose a jailer role

that's everyone's choice basically - if you think I'm mafia then vote me, if you don't then vote notty, so even if you've missed all our arguments (which is where notty was using some dirty strats against me which I called her out on so it's a good idea to go read them back if you want to decide on your opinion of notty), that's basically what everyone's decision comes down to
 

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the drawback of lynching notty is that we'll have to lynch omni on our own, so it's spending 1 day lynching someone - arguably this is a drawback but I'd say its very minor and unlikely to be significant to whether we win or lose

the drawback of lynching me is that if I'm town, we lose a jailer role
Don't forget to mention the drawback of lynching me is losing your 1-shot town vigilante.

The drawback of leaving Inf alive is that he is a combination of two already existing power roles and that makes no sense

Pong
 

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yeah I'm just going to UNVOTE and wait for you to complete your ignition. I'll be back in an hour or so.
I'm basically done arguing now, my final argument is this:

the drawback of lynching notty is that we'll have to lynch omni on our own, so it's spending 1 day lynching someone - arguably this is a drawback but I'd say its very minor and unlikely to be significant to whether we win or lose. if she's town, she's a 1-shot vigilante claim so her ability is something we can do on our own, it'd just take us a day.

the drawback of lynching me is that if I'm town, we lose a jailer role (second ability to block/protect a player, meaning I can catch out a mafia trying to kill people for us and stop mafia using powers at night, or save victims and stop the mafia progressing)

that's everyone's choice basically - if you think I'm mafia then vote me, if you don't then vote notty, so even if you've missed all our arguments (which is where notty was using some dirty strats against me which I called her out on so it's a good idea to go read them back if you want to decide on your opinion of notty, or if you don't want to read back then you can either believe me or don't believe me), that's basically what everyone's decision comes down to
 

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that's everyone's choice basically - if you think I'm mafia then vote me, if you don't then vote notty, so even if you've missed all our arguments (which is where notty was using some dirty strats against me which I called her out on so it's a good idea to go read them back if you want to decide on your opinion of notty, or if you don't want to read back then you can either believe me or don't believe me), that's basically what everyone's decision comes down to
And if they think I'm actually our 1-shot vigilante or that killing Omni is worth it they shouldn't vote me. Calling you out on having a power that is not only associated with Law people (jail) but also combines the powers of protection (Aqua) and blocking (Shadow) which two town people already have/had, is not dirty but a valid argument which youve confirmed about 3 times. Sounds extremely unlikely for a town to have those powers atleast to me
 
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