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Alisha

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Also we have to do a massclaim today since it's most likely lynch or lose, no wasting time because massclaims take a while;


I'm a vaniller townie. I was hoping I could appear like a power role so I would be nightkilled but instead I just became suspicious so that kinda backfired. I know that it won't be easy to believe anything I have to say since TWG pushed hard on me yesterday, so I understand if I'm going to be lynched today. Obviously I don't want that to happen, so if we need to talk then let's talk, because we won't get anywhere if we don't confront the issues right away.
 

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Also we have to do a massclaim today since it's most likely lynch or lose, no wasting time because massclaims take a while;


I'm a vaniller townie. I was hoping I could appear like a power role so I would be nightkilled but instead I just became suspicious so that kinda backfired. I know that it won't be easy to believe anything I have to say since TWG pushed hard on me yesterday, so I understand if I'm going to be lynched today. Obviously I don't want that to happen, so if we need to talk then let's talk, because we won't get anywhere if we don't confront the issues right away.
I am also vaniller townie

Where did you try to seem like a PR, can you point it out please?
 

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I am also vaniller townie

Where did you try to seem like a PR, can you point it out please?
I didn't want to outright say or even imply anything, since if mafia thinks you're trying to draw them out, they won't bite. (See: Roobarb Pie in Spaghetti Mafia)

I just made sure to keep active and hide my own disinterest in some of the game, since a common problem with vanilla(r) townies is they stop paying attention to the game and it makes it easy for scum to deduce they're not a power role.

(My disinterest would be anytime somebody brought up statistics, and the parts of day 1 where I asked if I was going to be lynched and said to go ahead with it)
 

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Also do you trust me or not trust me right now, because if you don't then we might as well begin screaming at each other.

For what it's worth I still trust you, because I had the same read on TWG. I did prefer Molten to be lynched, but I was so sure both were in the scumteam together so I was ok with following your lead.
 

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I didn't want to outright say or even imply anything, since if mafia thinks you're trying to draw them out, they won't bite. (See: Roobarb Pie in Spaghetti Mafia)

I just made sure to keep active and hide my own disinterest in some of the game, since a common problem with vanilla(r) townies is they stop paying attention to the game and it makes it easy for scum to deduce they're not a power role.

(My disinterest would be anytime somebody brought up statistics, and the parts of day 1 where I asked if I was going to be lynched and said to go ahead with it)
Okay, what about that do you think backfired and made you suspicious specifically?
 

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Also do you trust me or not trust me right now, because if you don't then we might as well begin screaming at each other.

For what it's worth I still trust you, because I had the same read on TWG. I did prefer Molten to be lynched, but I was so sure both were in the scumteam together so I was ok with following your lead.
I'm not sure
 

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Okay, what about that do you think backfired and made you suspicious specifically?
My policy on being ok with lynching anybody contributed to the cop being lynched, I should have made sure to ask ernie to claim before he was lynched, but I didn't.

I was too active and I let people build the narrative that I flipflopped because it didn't occur to me they were gearing up to sew distrust in me, and I didn't do enough to prove them wrong until late day 1. As a result I was in the top 3 in everyone's scum lists for a long time. Might be back in them too.
 

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That's...super unfortunate. I also thought catgirl was a PR because it looked like she soft claimed it yesterday. But we do have one PR left (because we don't have a serial killer) so that's good news. But that also means a mass claim is not a good idea.

I repeat: We have [most likely only] 1 PR left, and even if they don't claim, they're the only one left. Setups will so few PRs in them don't do well with mass claims for town.
 

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That's...super unfortunate. I also thought catgirl was a PR because it looked like she soft claimed it yesterday. But we do have one PR left (because we don't have a serial killer) so that's good news. But that also means a mass claim is not a good idea.

I repeat: We have [most likely only] 1 PR left, and even if they don't claim, they're the only one left. Setups will so few PRs in them don't do well with mass claims for town.
PR reveals won't matter if we lose when we lynch anybody but scum anyway.
 

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We won't see any claims other than vaniler townies anyhow
You said there's one more PR.

We need any kind of a clear because if we screw up, the game is over. Your power role will not matter because the game will end before the following day. (If there's a doctor then maybe they save the right person, but that's not something to rely on)

People need to claim now, TWG claimed so late during day 1 he wasn't able to stop himself from being lynched. By claiming now we're getting a clear town as fast as possible, with time remaining to sort out the rest of the game who are not clear.
 

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I'd prefer for any PR to out themselves today rather than hide in vaniller's since it's probably mylo, so optimal lynch conditions with one or two people 'clear' for the day would be nice and I don't think it's worth the risk hiding them
I guess you have a point. I'm just looking at it more from the direction of "What do we have to do to win?" rather than "What do we have to do to not lose?"

So our prime suspects for the day are...Molten, Unu, Shadow and Fog?

And I'll get this out there now, I have the niggling suspicion that Infected is using me for his own nefarious goals. But I'm probably just paranoid.
 

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I'm vaniller townie,

I do agree with Alisha that PR should claim, the more people we are certain of are town, the less chance of lynching town.
There are 8 people left, Tim is basically proven, if the other PR claims we need to choose between 6 players, so we have a 50/50 chance of getting maffia
 

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I guess you have a point. I'm just looking at it more from the direction of "What do we have to do to win?" rather than "What do we have to do to not lose?"

So our prime suspects for the day are...Molten, Unu, Shadow and Fog?

And I'll get this out there now, I have the niggling suspicion that Infected is using me for his own nefarious goals. But I'm probably just paranoid.
Mine are Molten and Choco
 

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I guess you have a point. I'm just looking at it more from the direction of "What do we have to do to win?" rather than "What do we have to do to not lose?"

So our prime suspects for the day are...Molten, Unu, Shadow and Fog?

And I'll get this out there now, I have the niggling suspicion that Infected is using me for his own nefarious goals. But I'm probably just paranoid.
Also what do you mean by 'using me' exactly?
 

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Well would you look at that, we all seem to be Vaniller townies, how unexpected...

I'm curious as well, as I don't 100% understand the statistics side of things. I swear TWG's chance was low because of Tim being Vig, so with the new information does that effect Tim's claim at all?

I mean TWG wanted us to look into Alisha today so do we follow his dying wish or are we going to be looking for another lynch target?
 

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Well would you look at that, we all seem to be Vaniller townies, how unexpected...

I'm curious as well, as I don't 100% understand the statistics side of things. I swear TWG's chance was low because of Tim being Vig, so with the new information does that effect Tim's claim at all?

I mean TWG wanted us to look into Alisha today so do we follow his dying wish or are we going to be looking for another lynch target?
We should ideally look at everyone

Fog/shadow who are your top suspects rn and why?
 

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Well would you look at that, we all seem to be Vaniller townies, how unexpected...

I'm curious as well, as I don't 100% understand the statistics side of things. I swear TWG's chance was low because of Tim being Vig, so with the new information does that effect Tim's claim at all?

I mean TWG wanted us to look into Alisha today so do we follow his dying wish or are we going to be looking for another lynch target?
Not everyone has claimed yet you dork

Why are people throwing targets on me that's very rude

Also I'm like halfway through collecting quotes I think so I am still working on it
 
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