Hey y'all,
Stranger from Planet 9: slight scumread just because of his post, 15m before nightfall where he comes by and basically says "wow lots of stuff cool beans glfh gotta run bye". Since it was down to TWG or purple, who I think is a strong townread, for the lynch at that point, mafia would understandably not be concerned, but a townie should have been. This isn't much to go by, though, and perhaps he has a good answer.
Stranger from Planet 9 I'm interested in your response to this.
I jumped in basically to say that I didn't have time to backread all the chaos that happened close to deadline. I'll admit it was an impulsive few posts, mainly b/c I'm used to discord mafia where pinging people close to deadline to get votes/a hammer isn't uncommon, as are last-second vote changes.
I panicked because last minute I started realizing mafia wanted me first because it'd b easier to scum talk me against town, but then they must have realized that they could still kill a villager at night so they wanted the strong vilagers first, since in their eyes I'm easy to get rid off last because people wouldn't hesitate to throw my noob ass under the bus anyways.
Aqua and Omni have been scummy and uncaring the whole time. HK was too eager to kill Weak so I thought perhaps he was with them, but turns out he wasn't, and they killed him anyways. Their next target would definetly be Inffy because why not go for someone who has the convincing power to make town shoot themselves in the foot. Mafia just nearly took town in one swoop, but town was foolish enough to just switch one shot in the foot for the other. I believe town still has hope, just don't fucking bus with Aqua and Omni. Lynch them asap.
purplepixies I have a few questions for you:
-Why are you so convinced Aqua and Omni are mafia? I agree that they were def annoying yesterday, I'm just curious if you have any reasoning beyond that.
-How was HK too eager to kill Weak?
-If you believe that mafia is targeting strong players, why do you think they specifically chose HK over Inffy?
I'm starting to think more and more that purple might be scum. Panicking as a n00b is understandable, and definitely something I was guilty of last game (granted, as mafia), but these reads feel faked if you ask me.
Reading up on this but in the mean time here have this tidbit of information.
I am Gardenia. My role allows me to once per game, at night, investigate three different Roman numerals and see if there any of them are anti town. I used this last night on inffy, purple, and notme so I can say they are all town sided players as I received the result of false (I would get true if any of them were anti town).
Now obviously one of them might be godfather but I'm willing to take my chances are hope they aren't.
Since I've seen multiple people claim that this is OP, do you think that some other mechanic could interfere with your reads? If so, how?
Because otherwise I'm inclined to believe this claim is cover for a scum role.
Probably doesn't need to be said, but Omni's acting like scum or stupid town. Aqua's vote on Inffy makes him look suspicious along with Omni.
I don't think Dess' role is op. Imo, the fact that it's a closed setup and thereby the potential unknown possibility of a godfather creates enough uncertainty to be balanced.
Lynching him to semi-prove three townies is tempting, but I think we have better options. I hear what Aqua is saying about the purple/inf team and tbh I'm totally seeing it. I'm reluctant to follow up on it, though, whether because I'm biased against Aqua or because I think there's not enough to go along with it I can't be sure.
...But after typing that....I definitely still find purple suspicious. Oh, here's an idea: Inf is so desperate to defend purple because they're a two man anti-town squad.
Hey, Dess, wait a minute. You said you choose three numbers, right? How's that different from targeting three players? Surely there's something that makes that relevant, else there wouldn't be a distinction...
I'm still mixed on my read about Timdood. Now that I've had some time to think I definitely exaggerated when saying he was my biggest scumread yesterday. That said, the above quote very much read's as him trying to play devil's advocate for someone else, which was something he did as scum last game. It's not a certainty yet, but I could see Tim & Dess being a scum team.
As for the whole cop-dial theory, it's a possibility I don't want to say anything definitive yet. Last night I did come up with the theory that the clock was a neighborizer - aka whoever the hands are pointing to at the beginning of the night phase get a chat together overnight. I imagine that Vyryn/Notme would have revealed that if that was indeed the case though, so IDK.
I think one of the things that we have to figure out is if the clock's hands moving are random, via some predetermined pattern, or if they're manipulated by the players. I feel like that could reveal a lot. We know swapping abilities exist, but afaik, we have no idea if anyone has the ability to manipulate who the clock hands are pointing at.
