[Concluded] The Party at the Machine
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Mooglie
The Local Cow
since the closer it gets to your lynch notty will have to reveal its a lie + your responses to it have been semi weird but i can see that being you as lying/not lying
if notty doesnt reveal its a lie and it is true then youre 99% guilty
if notty doesnt reveal its a lie and youre lynched and flip not-lying then notty will be lynched tomorrow (friendly reminder @ notty what happened in comedy club when you revealed your lie and your fake reasoning FAILED)
Mooglie
The Local Cow
the reason i think its 99% a lie is because it would mean that hip, as mafia, would have to come up with night action targets who are actual people and will have actual results about them everynight rather than the easy cop out of 'oh i visit the machine!!!!!!!!!' and i dont see hip being bothered enough to do that
Mooglie
The Local Cow
well i guess he could be some non-result role but still claiming to visit actual people results in danger from a watcher/tracker which is slightly unnecessary unless only mafia get to visit the machine and they got told this in context info (if that even got given that game) but i assume all alignments can visit the machine
Something something nonexistent bus driver
I second this motion.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
why are you townreading him for making sense and what did he say that actually made sense to you
I just haven't seen anything that's made me think someone's particularly townie/scummy yet other than you
well he's behaving a lot more like I thought he would as town last game with that kinda sharpness to him but he didn't do that as town last game + after I mentioned that as his meta last game I could see him making an effort to be more like that as scum as well so idk
why's that
when did they weaponize it
stranger's never played with hip as scum so pretty sure she's talking about last game when he was town
tbf I could see hip just seeing other non-mafia saying they can't visit it and wondering if only mafia could and so lying about it
anyway I do think notty's thing is prob a reaction test just cuz it feels like they didn't actually get any excitement from finding hip to be lying but
vote hip
Comp
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Nah literally just pointing out that as there's one less player than there should have been a role which got cut, and perhaps another role which then was subsequently changed. Wasn't saying anything about any specific role there
There were 6 last game if I can count correctly, so its possible there's more this time around again. Although I think the previous game had more 3p than usual?
With the whole maintenance guy thing - I think its a bit too early to be sure of what alignment they have, but I think 3p is likely. Also, weak's alignment is "Self aligned" instead of third party of something like that, which makes sense considering they get removed once they reach their win condition. I wouldn't be surprised if they lurk more than most games, esp as I'd imagine getting lynched is probably worse for them than town. (Unless tim added in some sort of joker role then in which case aaaaaa)
I don't know if it's normal for two third party characters to be so opposed to each other rather than having separate wincons. But I don't know how deep the rabbit hole for this game goes yet.
re: hip, I don't know if I'm sold on the lying angle, and I'd bet this is a typical Notty bait. Hip's responses do seem off though.
The last part seems to concede that Notty's report/role is true but their report is false? @Hip does this mean you think Notty did receive a report?
I find it hard to believe a closed set-up has more role interference options since that just makes things unnecessarily difficult for solving. Open set-up, sure, because the roles and their abilities are known.
re: hip, I don't know if I'm sold on the lying angle, and I'd bet this is a typical Notty bait. Hip's responses do seem off though.
Could be genuine. But assuming hip is scum here, there's a built-in fallback; the role doesn't say it necessarily must visit the machine. If hip needs to change course one way or the other for their claim, the roadmap is there--just claim that it actually does or it actually doesn't. He doesn't say anything definitive here. Feels like I have to reach to make this happen though.
Yeah no, very rarely does that "If I'm wrong lynch me tomorrow!" thing ever work. It's a classic WIFOM case and most of the time town isn't willing to bite the bullet out of fear that a town made a genuine error, making one mislynch turn into two.
The last part seems to concede that Notty's report/role is true but their report is false? @Hip does this mean you think Notty did receive a report?
I find it hard to believe a closed set-up has more role interference options since that just makes things unnecessarily difficult for solving. Open set-up, sure, because the roles and their abilities are known.
Yeah D0 is weak, no argument there. But it can still give a hint or two, it doesn't have to be dismissed. My main point remains that you've been following Mis and being very pleasant with them thus far to a noticeable degree and it could be buddying. I don't see you/Mis as w/w, that's too convenient. Gun-to-head, w/t and you're the w.
Asked about Moog because our stances on claiming were near-identical but Stranger gave me an sr and Moog a tr. Wanted to see if he'd contradict himself there and he did. Not enough that I'm willing to jump on, but enough to get me suspicious.
Jacethegray
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Oh okay that makes sense just had a lot to read and that stood out to be as an anomoly amungst all of the banter xD.
i mean to me they are either a townie trying to get reaction or i think they do actually have a report. like idk if mafia would make such a risky move but its notty so who knows maybe they are just trying to get me killed
Infected_alien8_
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do you have any thoughts on anyone yet
what do you mean by 'being very pleasant with them'
Jacethegray
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I think that he is at the very least gathering info. I think that his read post was to get reactions and be as blunt as he can to both keep record and see how others respond. Not knowing if that means he is trying to figure out who to kill or who might be killed. But info gathering is definitely what I would lable him as. I generally associate that with a town or low power mafia / 3p. Though I know not what roles we have obviously.
I also think it's interesting in that it helps me scum read without having to try too hard. I commend it and helps that some followed suit so I have a bit of comparison without pAiNtInG a target on my back.
Seems CrEaTiVe enough to me. But doesn't put him in the green by no means.
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