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To just begin this post i need to honor the jivvirgin for no night kills in the one way i know how
*tips fedora* M'lady
Anyways, watched catgirl no visits on her. No info otherwise. As for this, i say we either lynch Aqua or Jkangaroo atm. Aqua coming up as not innocent is still a little fishy but Jk basically poisoning hunter is not good either. Will post more later.
*tips fedora* M'lady
Anyways, watched catgirl no visits on her. No info otherwise. As for this, i say we either lynch Aqua or Jkangaroo atm. Aqua coming up as not innocent is still a little fishy but Jk basically poisoning hunter is not good either. Will post more later.
to be fair, tim, your reports haven't had any consistency other than "everyone was inno before"
for all we know it could be completely random what you get
meanwhile, erik confirmed no one visited cat (which is interesting considering you'd expect 77 to show up in the inn)
so no one interfered with her report
meaning that's me + cat + erik + jkang all confirming jkang was the sole player to visit me, and that is without doubt how i got poisoned
and caff, tbh there's no real reason to immediately jump on anyone based on your report. we don't have anything to say you're what you claim
wonder why caff and co showed up on erik's n3 report but 77 didn't show on n4 for erik's watch on cat
for all we know it could be completely random what you get
meanwhile, erik confirmed no one visited cat (which is interesting considering you'd expect 77 to show up in the inn)
so no one interfered with her report
meaning that's me + cat + erik + jkang all confirming jkang was the sole player to visit me, and that is without doubt how i got poisoned
and caff, tbh there's no real reason to immediately jump on anyone based on your report. we don't have anything to say you're what you claim
wonder why caff and co showed up on erik's n3 report but 77 didn't show on n4 for erik's watch on cat
To Do:
- myu, confirm whether or not you can save poisoned players. this is very important. also, out your n4 action
- if no: doc cat
- if yes: doc me (or cat)
- if unsure: doc either me or cat
- 77 claim your n4 actions. i bet you swapped self with aqua
- was the inn open? why were you quiet
- how didn't you know about the inn when keeping members alive is your wincon
- mastersten, figure out what happened last night with your power thing
- catgirl, choose wisely tonight
upon reflection, myu, you should definitely 100% doc cat forever
and she should watch you, too
this keeps both of you alive unless someone attacks myu, in which case cat knows the killer
and there would be nothing that could possibly screw this up bar jkang, since his poison isn't prevented by kill protection, as seen by jivvi's failure to protect my health
if 77 attempted to swap cat with anyone to negate the protection, he'd die courtesy of myu
if 77 attempted to swap myu with anyone to negate the watching, we'd know he's a scum and lynch him the very next day
the only things that could screw this up are the pair wifoming this and attempting to investigate/save others to get useful reports and someone calling their bluff
other thing would be if cat is somehow scum, and she was the one to poison me??? but she's towntold the whole game and that would be a complete betrayal of trust, plus jkang admitted to doing stuff with the potatoes before i even mentioned the poisoning. this is quite unlikely.
in conclusion, lynch jkang. if he was miraculously isn't scum, doc tim and investigate cat, and carry on from there
if jkang flips scum definitely do the myu/cat thing and investigate caff/mastersten, as they're the two big unknowns. if 77 does anything to screw us up, lynch 'im.
and she should watch you, too
this keeps both of you alive unless someone attacks myu, in which case cat knows the killer
and there would be nothing that could possibly screw this up bar jkang, since his poison isn't prevented by kill protection, as seen by jivvi's failure to protect my health
if 77 attempted to swap cat with anyone to negate the protection, he'd die courtesy of myu
if 77 attempted to swap myu with anyone to negate the watching, we'd know he's a scum and lynch him the very next day
the only things that could screw this up are the pair wifoming this and attempting to investigate/save others to get useful reports and someone calling their bluff
other thing would be if cat is somehow scum, and she was the one to poison me??? but she's towntold the whole game and that would be a complete betrayal of trust, plus jkang admitted to doing stuff with the potatoes before i even mentioned the poisoning. this is quite unlikely.
in conclusion, lynch jkang. if he was miraculously isn't scum, doc tim and investigate cat, and carry on from there
if jkang flips scum definitely do the myu/cat thing and investigate caff/mastersten, as they're the two big unknowns. if 77 does anything to screw us up, lynch 'im.
Mastersten
In Omnia Paratus
confused...alright well
unless anyone disagrees with the game plan laid out up there we should give 77 a day or two to respond with his perspective on last night's activities and out his action
myu can say what he did too, but that's not as much of a priority
myu can say what he did too, but that's not as much of a priority
how do we know we can trust cat? or is it simply a matter of, hey this is the best move we can make that doesn't risk me killing people? secondly, why choose cat over tim? and also.
tbh, I'd rather lynch caffeinatedkitty today, but the evidence overwhelmingly suggests it was jkang
Vote Jkangaroo!
myusername22 You need to protect cat.
if you protect tim, it's likely both you and cat will die, preventing a watch report from revealing the killer and removing the last protective role at the same time. If you protect cat, we have a guaranteed watch report, and cat has two options to watch: myu or tim.
If she watches you while you protect her, an attack on either of you guarantees the attacker is caught or killed.
If she watches tim, you're vulnerable, but an attack on either investigative pr will not go unseen.
But if you protect tim and she watches tim then we're in for a bad time.
Scum is definitely within Jkang/77/Aqua, though.
if you protect tim, it's likely both you and cat will die, preventing a watch report from revealing the killer and removing the last protective role at the same time. If you protect cat, we have a guaranteed watch report, and cat has two options to watch: myu or tim.
If she watches you while you protect her, an attack on either of you guarantees the attacker is caught or killed.
If she watches tim, you're vulnerable, but an attack on either investigative pr will not go unseen.
But if you protect tim and she watches tim then we're in for a bad time.
Scum is definitely within Jkang/77/Aqua, though.
Did not visit anyone last night. I saw no point because the virgin died.
JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
I stopped receiving alerts, but it turns out I just wasn't logged in, woops. Please stop forgetting my information forums, thank you. <3
...But I guess there hasn't been a lot of activity so I guess it doesn't really matter.
Anyways,
That or I'll be told what's going on tonight if I live. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I've been pretty much truthful of all my actions each night, even talking about the potato-ness change before the poisoning even came up, as you have already stated, and most of my actions have been clear/made sense I believe. For general "defense" talking points, for the most part I've been trying to push for people who seem to be anti-town, or bringing up ideas to bring things to light or possibilities, and just generally being transparent.
And since I know I'm not anti-town, I know I'm not essentially a "sk." I don't think just being an (apparently new) killing role now makes me automatically scum.
Plus, if I was really scum and knew about this whole poisoning business, why exactly would I want to kill you? Of all people? If you are really a vanilla templar as you said you are (and I generally believe, there's has literally been no reason to indicate otherwise), killing you is ultimately a pointless endeavor. You don't have any special powers, and if I was scum out to win I would be trying to target important roles that would severely hurt me, like tim or erik who investigates, myuser, or etc. (except I don't think erik can die according to that one statement he made about being a ghost): people who have actively powerful night roles.
I frankly, would like a motive, because I have one which I've already stated: to find potatoes to eat.
Anyways, since I know I'm good, I'll continue talking from that basis, and try to put forward a line of thinking which I think makes more sense.
I think we have 2 good leads for scum this day: Aqua, and 77; Aqua, because of tim's investigation, and 77 because of both Caff's (still debatable) claim of 77 being able to kill, and the fact that his claim did not quite line up, as was established yesterday, and should probably be explored upon today (if 77 even replies).
Those should be our lynching targets today.
Tim, since it seems whatever was happening to his role has been fixed, should either investigate me (if there are still suspicions), or continue what he did with Aqua and revisit people he has already investigated to try and reconfirm if his role was really naive'd for the past 3 days; specifically myuser since it seems like 1)Hunter is probably going to die tonight, who was the other investigation, and 2)I still think Notty's investigation holds some water, though that's more of a personal belief since I kind of think Notty's town based on how she's played and that theory I had a bit ago; that and the investigation came up with 77 being not innocent as well, which is the same wording that tim got.
...Or he can just do what he think is the best course of action, which would be completely fair, since why should we dictate what certain power roles should do?
Myself, if I live, and if I still poison (and hopefully learn why I poisoned hunter tonight), could probably put pressure on, and eventually kill off people we think are suspicious. And hey, if they don't have potato's in the process of my visit, then I'll essentially die off anyways, since it's implied I die if I don't have any food (since again, I seem to be on some kind of personal famine mechanic.)
Win-win for everybody except for the antitowners.
and *shrug.* I think that's about all I have to say.
I think I'm innocent, so whether or not you believe me or not thats up to you really.
I think we should be trying to get information out of people more suspicious than me, and trying to continue to weed out antitown, who are probably still heavily around (we've only gotten 3, no 4 antitowns if we include Vatu, out of 22 of us! Or... 5 if Notty turns out 3rd party or scum but we can't tell because of that censor)
Now I'm going to go back to playing Endless Legend, and eating some valentine's day chocolate. Good day. o/
Also if anyone wants to join me, it's a really cool Civilization-esq game. I'd love to play with others sometime if anyone buys it. o 3o
...But I guess there hasn't been a lot of activity so I guess it doesn't really matter.
Anyways,
I don't think anyone's been... denying that all? It hasn't been if I was the poisoner, since we already seem to know that I was the only one who visited you, it's just the manner in which you were poisoned, since the knowledge I have of my role abilities after it was changed is that I go around each night stealing potatoes to sustain myself since I no longer can afford food from the telegramming job. I still have no clue of how the poisoning happened unless it has been something hidden in my role that I am not told about, or the only other thing I can think of being possibly stealing those lethal potatoes at some point, probably from Water (since it seems my action was bussed that night), or 77 (if that bus claim is a lie).
That or I'll be told what's going on tonight if I live. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't think it's that far-fetched.
I've been pretty much truthful of all my actions each night, even talking about the potato-ness change before the poisoning even came up, as you have already stated, and most of my actions have been clear/made sense I believe. For general "defense" talking points, for the most part I've been trying to push for people who seem to be anti-town, or bringing up ideas to bring things to light or possibilities, and just generally being transparent.
And since I know I'm not anti-town, I know I'm not essentially a "sk." I don't think just being an (apparently new) killing role now makes me automatically scum.
Plus, if I was really scum and knew about this whole poisoning business, why exactly would I want to kill you? Of all people? If you are really a vanilla templar as you said you are (and I generally believe, there's has literally been no reason to indicate otherwise), killing you is ultimately a pointless endeavor. You don't have any special powers, and if I was scum out to win I would be trying to target important roles that would severely hurt me, like tim or erik who investigates, myuser, or etc. (except I don't think erik can die according to that one statement he made about being a ghost): people who have actively powerful night roles.
I frankly, would like a motive, because I have one which I've already stated: to find potatoes to eat.
Anyways, since I know I'm good, I'll continue talking from that basis, and try to put forward a line of thinking which I think makes more sense.
I think we have 2 good leads for scum this day: Aqua, and 77; Aqua, because of tim's investigation, and 77 because of both Caff's (still debatable) claim of 77 being able to kill, and the fact that his claim did not quite line up, as was established yesterday, and should probably be explored upon today (if 77 even replies).
Those should be our lynching targets today.
Tim, since it seems whatever was happening to his role has been fixed, should either investigate me (if there are still suspicions), or continue what he did with Aqua and revisit people he has already investigated to try and reconfirm if his role was really naive'd for the past 3 days; specifically myuser since it seems like 1)Hunter is probably going to die tonight, who was the other investigation, and 2)I still think Notty's investigation holds some water, though that's more of a personal belief since I kind of think Notty's town based on how she's played and that theory I had a bit ago; that and the investigation came up with 77 being not innocent as well, which is the same wording that tim got.
...Or he can just do what he think is the best course of action, which would be completely fair, since why should we dictate what certain power roles should do?
Myself, if I live, and if I still poison (and hopefully learn why I poisoned hunter tonight), could probably put pressure on, and eventually kill off people we think are suspicious. And hey, if they don't have potato's in the process of my visit, then I'll essentially die off anyways, since it's implied I die if I don't have any food (since again, I seem to be on some kind of personal famine mechanic.)
Win-win for everybody except for the antitowners.
and *shrug.* I think that's about all I have to say.
I think I'm innocent, so whether or not you believe me or not thats up to you really.
I think we should be trying to get information out of people more suspicious than me, and trying to continue to weed out antitown, who are probably still heavily around (we've only gotten 3, no 4 antitowns if we include Vatu, out of 22 of us! Or... 5 if Notty turns out 3rd party or scum but we can't tell because of that censor)
Now I'm going to go back to playing Endless Legend, and eating some valentine's day chocolate. Good day. o/
Also if anyone wants to join me, it's a really cool Civilization-esq game. I'd love to play with others sometime if anyone buys it. o 3o
I believe JK.
Simple as that. He's been towntelling this entire game and I see no reason for him to attempt to kill Hunter other than his leadership of the town. (From my perspective, anyway,-) I can extert the same amount of leadership (even if a bit less tactical) as he can, and I have a powerful night ability. This is like Masquerade all over again where I get cop and live to the end of the game....
We already know that there's action-switching shenanigans, with Cat getting a tracker report and the presence of a bus. That's not even to mention other switchy things like my naivety going away and Mastersten's role. There is more than enough shenanigans to make JK's role going from Teleguy to what he is now feasible.
The targets we really should be going for (as JK said) are Aqua and 77. Now that I'm alert with my reports, we know that Aqua is anti-town. 77, in addition to Hunter's points of 'how did you not know about potato things if it's your win-con' and 'if there are potatoes of every alignment how do you lose,' he has been (debatably) confirmed by Caff to have the ability to kill.
My vote will be going on one of these two and only one of these two until further notice.
In case reasons to lynch those two aren't good enough, have some reasons not to lynch anyone else.
Hunter: He's literally confirmed town.
JK: See second paragraph of this point.
Caff: Has a believable town claim. If we lynch 77 we can verify it.
Mastersten: We wait for things to work themselves out with his role tomorrow. He'll either get caff's ability confirming her or die. Or get his ability back.
Myu: He's our only protective role, and can also take out careless mafia.
Cat: Watcher. Only one to claim it, and with a tracker confirmed in the game...Well, you know.
Tim: I'm a cop. I'm not mafia. Moving on to prevent bias.
Erik: I mean....I can't defend him. But I see nothing wrong with him at this particular moment. I've also not looked all too closely because I get confused easily.
I'm almost certainly going to die tonight, so I wouldn't count on having a report from me tomorrow.
Unless there's some way we can work around watching and surgery....But I don't think there is because the mafia can then just kill cat for free. At least this way (Cat on me, myu on cat) we ensure that if I am killed then cat sees them and justice can be brought.
(Hey, maybe that alone will be enough to keep me alive....Not sure.)
To recap: Don't lynch JK. Lynch Aqua or 77, not anyone else.
Simple as that. He's been towntelling this entire game and I see no reason for him to attempt to kill Hunter other than his leadership of the town. (From my perspective, anyway,-) I can extert the same amount of leadership (even if a bit less tactical) as he can, and I have a powerful night ability. This is like Masquerade all over again where I get cop and live to the end of the game....
We already know that there's action-switching shenanigans, with Cat getting a tracker report and the presence of a bus. That's not even to mention other switchy things like my naivety going away and Mastersten's role. There is more than enough shenanigans to make JK's role going from Teleguy to what he is now feasible.
In the past, whenever I've felt someone was town due to towntelling, I've always been right as far as I can remember. For example, the end of masquerade, I made the right choice lynching notty instead of Duffie. This is irrelevant and unimportant, hence the spoiler. Feel free to ignore this, I just wanted to include it.
The targets we really should be going for (as JK said) are Aqua and 77. Now that I'm alert with my reports, we know that Aqua is anti-town. 77, in addition to Hunter's points of 'how did you not know about potato things if it's your win-con' and 'if there are potatoes of every alignment how do you lose,' he has been (debatably) confirmed by Caff to have the ability to kill.
My vote will be going on one of these two and only one of these two until further notice.
In case reasons to lynch those two aren't good enough, have some reasons not to lynch anyone else.
Hunter: He's literally confirmed town.
JK: See second paragraph of this point.
Caff: Has a believable town claim. If we lynch 77 we can verify it.
Mastersten: We wait for things to work themselves out with his role tomorrow. He'll either get caff's ability confirming her or die. Or get his ability back.
Myu: He's our only protective role, and can also take out careless mafia.
Cat: Watcher. Only one to claim it, and with a tracker confirmed in the game...Well, you know.
Tim: I'm a cop. I'm not mafia. Moving on to prevent bias.
Erik: I mean....I can't defend him. But I see nothing wrong with him at this particular moment. I've also not looked all too closely because I get confused easily.
I'm almost certainly going to die tonight, so I wouldn't count on having a report from me tomorrow.
Unless there's some way we can work around watching and surgery....But I don't think there is because the mafia can then just kill cat for free. At least this way (Cat on me, myu on cat) we ensure that if I am killed then cat sees them and justice can be brought.
(Hey, maybe that alone will be enough to keep me alive....Not sure.)
To recap: Don't lynch JK. Lynch Aqua or 77, not anyone else.
again tl;dr
but if you have potatoes and poison people you need to use potatoes??? to poison people???
???????????????
plus this is fricking stupid you're clearly scum and a poisoner qed lynch