Aight, here we go.
Right off the bat, I'll admit to jumping on the bandwagon to start with. I didn't really think it through. I just went 'Okay, he's throwing votes around and stuff. That isn't good" and voted for him. Probably the stupidest thing I've done all game. I decided not to properly go over it, because, I was getting sick of the quiet day, and wanted it to move forward. Then why nit say so, you ask? People vote for random people and say it's to wake them up, but even if that is true, everyone jumps on them like a kitten on catnip. I voted for super because I didn't want to stick out all over again. did it with Storm, and I was hoping like hell that he wasn't mafia, 'cause then I'd be next for sure .No one threw accusations at me, however, for whatever reason, and I turned out to be right: Storm only defense, in the end.
My position on the matter was similar to Hype's -
I'm not exactly ready to throw super under the bus just yet but.. "Because yolo" makes me seriously question his reliability
We are like some kind of cult, we all lock our minds on one idea, anyone else has to die. This was what I was scared of; being pulled up for suppourting yet another guy who's under the hammer. And I didn't get bumped off for that, I'd surely get killed off once someone ends up to be the mafia. After it got quiet today, I slowed down too, and I haven't quite got back up to speed yet. I'm reading through again now, also smashing my head into my desk repeatedly, having made mistakes that could cost me my life here. I was still back with the morning wake-up when the afternoon goldrush started. I was still throwing around ideas, poking people with votes while others were reaching conclucions, and it's seems to have been bad for my health.
Retracting my vote because I am stupid.
Back to this whole trust thing everyone, especially JK, is emphasizing that you can't thrust anyone. That's partially true. For a true understanding of where someone's loyalty lies, you must begin with an unbias, and remain with it until you reach your conclusion, as I did with Storm, but not, I regret, here. You must have that underlying suspicion of everyone at all times, but a small amount of trust in each, also.
Moving on to the claims of JK concerning the vigilante. I don't understand why any truly town-sided players would reveal their suspicions on the vigi's identity, especially such an experienced player who is obviously skilled at deducing people's roles. Unless he is not town-sided, which he is leading me to believe. For surely only a serial killer would be concerned by the vigilante at this early stage of the game, as serial killers are a team of one, ad have that same number of chances. The mafia, however, may know the vigilante, or even the serial killer, but they will surely kill them when the time is right. Because the serial killer and vigilante have only managed to kill one anti-town role out of the six that have been killed in the night. One of these was the doctor, who was targeted by both. When you think about it, why wouldn't the mafia let the vig and the killer stick around? Even the vigilante is doing more harm than good. Does this lead you to belive that the vigi is useless to us, and should be killed before he does an more damage, JK? You didn't quite elaborate on why. You merely stated that you believed that Notty was the vigilante, essentially throwing him under the bus, while throwing that glob of logic at me will likely turn all heads and get me lynched. As possibly the most frequent posters in this thread, Notty and I have provided a lot of insight into the day gone behind us. Is this something a townie is likely to want to risk, let alone lead the extortionist racket themselves? Yes, good people, that's right. I'm laying the suspicion on JKangaroo. Logic is not flawless. Make something idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.
Why, JK do you want to expose the vigilante to the mafia and the killer and eliminate the two most frequent speakers of the game. Forget things not adding up right. This is just plain and simple suspicious, I mean, why would you even want to expose the vigi, besides the reasons above? You'll even have the vigilante themself on your back. Obviously no town-sided role would risk this. I would like to hear more from you, JK, and not one of your massive beating-round-the-bush piles of text. A shorter, concise reasoning on exactly why you've got it in for Notty and/as the Vigi. I am extremely suspicious of you now, JK, although I won't make the same mistake twice. I'm not voting for you yet; I would like to hear other opinions.
Apologies for holey logic, guys, if you find some
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