CAPITALISM MAFIA

[webpaige]

Anyway now that paige's plan has failed then yeah, ltin was our blocker (and he wasn't one-shot like I pretended), and roles in this game don't have names like "Drunk" so I thought it was pretty obvious she was cop and yet vat and notty still pressed for her to claim cop which I found unnecessary since, sure it was unlikely her plan would've worked, but I don't see why they needed further clarification on it, especially since she was the only cop claim

In my defense if TWG and Oak didn't point it out I might have been able to trick mafia/SK
It's like trying to HYPO but TWG doesn't give a report and keeps insisting he's not cop then Oak takes the nuclear option and tears down my report because he's stalker and he saw I didn't visit anyone but it's HYPO damnit

 

[Infected_alien8_]

In my defense if TWG and Oak didn't point it out I might have been able to trick mafia/SK
It's like trying to HYPO but TWG doesn't give a report and keeps insisting he's not cop then Oak takes the nuclear option and tears down my report because he's stalker and he saw I didn't visit anyone but it's HYPO damnit

Yeah I know, it could've worked but EVERYONE RUINED IT

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Well if you didn't know then how can you say that the reason you thought rune was an easy lynch was because nobody tried to lynch anyone else?


Alright, well maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but I'm pretty sure that only myself and Iggish said rune was suspicious enough to lynch, and then you eventually said he was more suspicious than anyone else when I asked for your opinion, and then Aqua said rune was suspicious enough to lynch when he was nearly killed.

Okay so I went back and searched through all posts that mentioned rune, and only myself, Iggish and Aqua indicated they wanted to lynch rune.

Beyond that, only you and erik mentioned that rune was more suspicious than not suspicious. Erik said about how we had three options, rune, aqua or ender, and that he'd prefer to get Ender, but he'd prefer rune over Aqua. You said you saw rune as suspicious but nowhere near as suspicious as Aqua. Everyone else either said they trusted him or didn't give an opinion. So from your point of view, only 4 others had even indicated they were suspicious of rune, yet you said it was too easy to lynch him. And that's suspicious.

Thinking about it though, it would be a really huge move on your part to bus two of your partners, one of whom is the Godfather of all roles, so I'm doubting my suspicion on you and maybe you were just mistaken about rune being an easy lynch because it just seemed like everyone was suspicious of him whereas to me it didn't, and maybe you just saw Iggish's explanation of voting rune over aqua as scummy whereas I saw it as reasonable, I don't know, but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt and think maybe this is just a misunderstanding. But I'm definitely not dropping all suspicion on you. :eyes:

Can I get everyone's opinion on Oak please?

What do you think of Oak? Is he suspicious? Why/why not? Would you be willing to lynch him?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Aqua indicated they wanted to lynch rune.

(and this was when he was already being voted by several people, and even then he preferred to get Ender and never voted rune)

 

[Infected_alien8_]

And this ties in with another point, how you used the fact that Aqua wanted rune dead as a way to defend rune's innocence, when aqua never voted rune and only ever voted ender, and only ever put suspicion on rune or said we could lynch him instead when it was pretty obvious aqua was going to be lynched, which I also find weird of you to say

basically your stance with rune/iggish just seems to be fabricated from things that I haven't seen myself, which is why you've seemed suspicious, but maybe it's just been a misunderstanding

 

[Oak Milk]

What do you think of Oak? He is a great guy!
Is he suspicious? Nah m8 he is cool
Why not? Cus he is me!
Would you be willing to lynch him? Nah, save that for someone who was actually vocal about voting rune!

 

[Oak Milk]

Also I am awake once more, Inf if you are going to go back through older posts to make a point can you please start quoting them.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

What do you think of Oak? He is a great guy!
Is he suspicious? Nah m8 he is cool
Why not? Cus he is me!
Would you be willing to lynch him? Nah, save that for someone who was actually vocal about voting rune!

Who, Iggish or me? Since we were the only vocal ones, and one of us is dead and the other is proven town

Your silence in the rune lynch is suspicious because you refused to participate. When you were tagged, you explained your absence by saying that your question about why he was suspicious was never answered, which made you trust him. And then later you said you didn't see the answer (that was provided several times) because you didn't read the thread. Why would you, as an innocent, who hadn't even read the thread, assume that 1) nobody answered your question and 2) that rune was innocent because of that?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also I am awake once more, Inf if you are going to go back through older posts to make a point can you please start quoting them.

Well the point I was making was that 'X was never said by anyone', so to prove that I would need to quote every post from everyone to prove that they never mentioned rune.

 

[erik5456]

I thought I had mentioned vanilla townie at some point but looks like not. So ya I'm a vanilla townie.

I understand the suspicions about me being mafia/SK cuz not super active but again, I dislike just going off of vibes and random discussion instead of solid info. Random crackpot theories can only get you so far and trying to force discussion leads to lynches like that of Rune.

Notty's got a good point about Rune being high up on everyones suspicion list yesterday. No one tried to push or suggest a serious case for lynching someone else and it just sorta turned into a mob mentality of "lynch Rune cuz no one's thought of anything else".

In my eyes, there's 3 confirmed townies: Infy, Paige, myself.
Few things I want to comment on:
Notty's aggression this late in the game seems uncharacteristic and out of the blue. Being not insanely active (at least from what I remember) to wanting to push actions seems very strange. Bussing 2 of your own members is definitely crazy to do. But bussing one member and creating somewhat of a disagreement with the other is perfectly fine if you're mafia. That way, if a situation like the current one happens, then all of us think that you're more or less clear since you disagreed with Iggish in the first place. But the fact that he was killed at night means that you didn't necessarily bus him. Just thoughts of why Notty could still be mafia and new aggression is making me feel a lil more certain on that.

Let's be 100% honest here, unless mafia is blind or stupid, they would've tried to kill Paige tonight no matter what. I don' think the whole "fake I'm not the cop" plan is way too much effort for something that's not going to work and that no one will believe/benefit from.

Oak seems similar to notty to me in that he seems to be much more active now. This might just be cuz not as many people to post but still seems to be posting a lol more frequently now. I'd call the increased posting suspicious right now and him trying to "force" Paige to confirm she' cop (although that was pretty simple to see no matter what) as suspicious too. I do not want to lynch him as of now. With 9 people (10 including ender), discussion becomes much more useful and clear and tunnelling on one person becomes much much worse. I also have a crackpot politician relayed theory that I will hopefully finish and post tonight.

TWG seems to be either a one-shot vigilante or just one who decided not to kill for a while. Last night' extra kill doesn' make sense otherwise with the claims. Pls clarify ability so that we know if we have another town PR alive so that we can at least plan courses of action if one of the two of you dies during the night.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I thought I had mentioned vanilla townie at some point but looks like not. So ya I'm a vanilla townie.

You had. Yesterday at some point.

 

[Oak Milk]

Who, Iggish or me? Since we were the only vocal ones, and one of us is dead and the other is proven town

Your silence in the rune lynch is suspicious because you refused to participate. When you were tagged, you explained your absence by saying that your question about why he was suspicious was never answered, which made you trust him. And then later you said you didn't see the answer (that was provided several times) because you didn't read the thread. Why would you, as an innocent, who hadn't even read the thread, assume that 1) nobody answered your question and 2) that rune was innocent because of that?

Excuse fucking you, I had been reading the thread and I NEVER stated that I hadn't been reading the thread, if you want to make an argument against someone stop assuming things and go back and quote them properly motherfucker.

NOW, onto your other points, when I actually posted that, I was referring to the fact that no one had answered me directly, because its a common mafia tactic to IGNORE people who are questioning what turned out to be a mislynch.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Excuse fucking you, I had been reading the thread and I NEVER stated that I hadn't been reading the thread, if you want to make an argument against someone stop assuming things and go back and quote them properly motherfucker.

NOW, onto your other points, when I actually posted that, I was referring to the fact that no one had answered me directly, because its a common mafia tactic to IGNORE people who are questioning what turned out to be a mislynch.

i had said very little so far, only asking at the beginning of this day why people were so suspicious of rune, when i was called out for not talking i mentioned the fact that no one had answered my question, of course i havent really read shit so apparently there are multiple posts that actually answered my question but never answered me specifically. So of course I appear to be supporting rune by ignoring the actual conversation thats going on.

oh i am sorry oak for assuming that you didn't read the thread

 

[Oak Milk]

Wait, I did say I hadn't read stuff after all, false alarm

 

[Oak Milk]

Inffy beat me to it

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Wait, I did say I hadn't read stuff after all, false alarm

Yeah so why are you lying

Excuse fucking you, I had been reading the thread

 

[webpaige]

Yeah so why are you lying

He's very defensive :eyes:

 

[Infected_alien8_]

He's very defensive :eyes:

He's also a liar and kinda confirmed scum in my eyes right now

TheWeakGuy48_ now that you've said you have an ability, the Mafia know you do now so even if you hide it you're probably going to be killed tomorrow night after paige, so the best course of action would probably be for you to tell us what it is so that we can decide how to use it to our advantage (whether that be to verify your claim or to help kill mafia or whatever, depending on what it is).

However, if it's what I'm thinking it could be, and I don't want to say it out-loud in case I'm right, then you should keep it hidden for now. But if the reason you're not revealing it is simply because you don't want to give information, and you're like, a vigilante or something, then you should claim. But if you're that thing I think you could be which means claiming defeats the purpose then don't claim.

 

[webpaige]

What do you think of Oak? Is he suspicious? Why/why not? Would you be willing to lynch him?

Very very suspicious, tried to sabotage my plan, and went from posting very little to this desperate pattern of aggressive posts. As he is one of my top suspects, I'm open to lynching him.

However, if it's what I'm thinking it could be, and I don't want to say it out-loud in case I'm right, then you should keep it hidden for now. But if the reason you're not revealing it is simply because you don't want to give information, and you're like, a vigilante or something, then you should claim. But if you're that thing I think you could be which means claiming defeats the purpose then don't claim.

<o> is it what I'm thinking Inf

 

[Infected_alien8_]

<o> is it what I'm thinking Inf

Uh I'm not sure <o>

If you type it in google, under the definition is a quote, and the first word of that quote is "goodbye"

If that's what you get when you google the role you're thinking of then yeah <o>

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Very very suspicious, tried to sabotage my plan, and went from posting very little to this desperate pattern of aggressive posts. As he is one of my top suspects, I'm open to lynching him.

Who are your other top suspects?

 

[webpaige]

Uh I'm not sure <o>

If you type it in google, under the definition is a quote, and the first word of that quote is "goodbye"

If that's what you get when you google the role you're thinking of then yeah <o>

nope

 

[Infected_alien8_]

We should try to visualize everyone in their claimed role and see if it makes sense. Really imagine them in that role, get a picture of it, then work out if it looks legit.

 

[webpaige]

We should try to visualize everyone in their claimed role and see if it makes sense. Really imagine them in that role, get a picture of it, then work out if it looks legit.

Good idea, this is what I think Jeb Bush Ascended looks like

 

[webpaige]

I'M NOT A STALKER I SWEAR