let's not explode [day 5 - GAME OVER (MAFIA WIN)]

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Mastersten said:
At this point I'm so confused that I don't know what to do anymore

is there a Morgan Freeman kinda person that would like to explain everything ?
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Mastersten said:
where's Infected_alien8_ with his morgan freeman voice to save the day and summarise what happened the past 4 pages
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twice calling on someone (second, infected specifically) to explain the day, in an attempt to get us to trust Inf.
Mastersten said:
Mesiah mesiah you lightened my path
#vote infected_alien8
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sees ender has this bigass thing against inf and just accepts he'll inevitably get lynched
Mastersten said:
Hold on 1 second, infected supports you and now you vote against him? Mind elaborating a bit more what you call "unusual" ?
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calls out ltin for voting against inf when inf has been defending ltin the whole game. why would this be of note unless inf was defending a townie to gain their trust? mastersten appears upset when this does not succeed.
Mastersten said:
He gave me the feeling he and Ltin were collaborating (forgot which page so no reference for now) and but now this sudden turn just makes no sense to me and more tends me to think that Ltin and Hunter worm together in some way (not sure positively influencing the bigger picture or not)

Then your statement, agree I didnt really support my vote with arguments and shit since my phone gives me a headache to search and read everything. So yeah overall my votes are just from gutfeeling that often fails.


Yeah I didnt really read enders whole 10000 words essay (no offense I read some strong points but the dancing monkey in my head stopped working.exe after the second paragraph)

And speaking of teams, it sounds like you know more then us?
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admits he didn't even read ender's reasoning and was just following the vote train.
Oak63 said:
So aqua and ender both did really well in creating and presenting an argument supporting a vote against Infected and I agree with it, but there are a few other things that I noticed that I feel are important to out today.

First off I'd like to point out Notty's defence of Infected right after ender's post, this post here http://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/lets-not-explode-day-one-party-hard.19474/page-22#post-377606

Now, notty argues in this post that hunter switched to infected as he was the easiest to start a bandwagon on but instead of voting for hunter as you would assume for someone who just implied that he created a bandwagon on infected to save his own hide, he instead votes for aqua with no real reasoning. This to me feels like a scum post, he took only a piece of ender's argument and countered that instead of trying to argue the whole of his logic, then voted aqua to try and get people to turn their attention elsewhere.

Jolteon also made a similar post which basically addressed the same thing as Notty http://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/lets-not-explode-day-one-party-hard.19474/page-22#post-377605

Jolteon points out that the Civ's main goal is to survive and leaves it at that. He doesn't vote anyone in this but he doesn't really address the major points in ender's post, he just unvotes on the next page and then doesn't contribute anything further.

And its that which bothers me, neither of them really go out of their way to address the big points that ender has made or even aqua really they just sort of prod at them trying to poke attention away elsewhere, it all in all feels really scummy to me and I think if Infected does flip scum we should be weary of them in the days to come.

That being said,

#vote Infected_alien8_
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mastersten does the same- supports inf, but relents when it's clear he's beyond saving.
Hunter said:
literally no one can be that dense
he actually appeared to put stock in inf's garbage third party claim

after he'd already reached the majority, then he finally frigging votes
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Mastersten said:
Appolagies, next time I will put sarcasm behind my jokes so you guys get it
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He even "jokingly" suggests to stall the day to give Inf another chance to explain himself, again by voting Aqua, which itself has stopped being funny long ago.
Mastersten said:
My thoughts? Well if I were mafia I would not have voted Infected (or if you want to look townie but lets act as no mafia voted on infected)
This would make the following people "innocent"
Hunter
Enderfive
Aqua
Mariosatr
Mastersten
Ltin
Oak (RIP Maven)
Ooglie
Then you got Kalliee, infected voted kallie as a policy vote to clear inactive players, this would probably mean that kalliee isnt mafia (again it could be a tactic to not look suspected but again lets act as Kalliee is innocent)
so Kalliee wouldn't be scum either.
Leaving the following:
Mulbery
Kalliee
CaffeinatedKitty
Jolteon42
Runemen
Notty

So my best guess would be that 2 of the last 6 would be scum and maybe 1 3p but this would be in an ideal situation were we have naïve mafia that dont vote eachother.
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Tries to self-clear when the slightest pressure is put upon him. Interestingly, he defends Kalliee without prompting.
 
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Samlen said:
I looked at the wording of the role and the pm and NOWHERE does it mention that it kills EVERYONE that they visited/were visited by
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well actually, nearly verbatim:
Jivvi said:
Gadget - Can visit one player during the night, killing themselves, their target, and all players who the target visited or was visited by. Explodes when lynched. Kills cannot be redirected.
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I knew there was another reason I thought that.
Taken straight from the sign-up thread.
 
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Hunter said:
twice calling on someone (second, infected specifically) to explain the day, in an attempt to get us to trust Inf.

sees ender has this bigass thing against inf and just accepts he'll inevitably get lynched

calls out ltin for voting against inf when inf has been defending ltin the whole game. why would this be of note unless inf was defending a townie to gain their trust? mastersten appears upset when this does not succeed.

admits he didn't even read ender's reasoning and was just following the vote train.

mastersten does the same- supports inf, but relents when it's clear he's beyond saving.


He even "jokingly" suggests to stall the day to give Inf another chance to explain himself, again by voting Aqua, which itself has stopped being funny long ago.

Tries to self-clear when the slightest pressure is put upon him. Interestingly, he defends Kalliee without prompting.
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Agreed if I would be reading this of someone else it would be suspicious but I will now try to break it down and explain my actions:
- the summarization thing:
As I stated many times, in real life I'm in my final year so I'm not as active as in the previous mafia so I called for an explanation of what happened, infected responded cause we help eachother out often on TTT (sorta help out) so the second time (since also no one else responded for the first time) I asked again for a summary but now towards infected since he did it again.

- ender's headache-long post:
I only read the first sentences of each paragraph cause I dont have the patience for reading the whole post.

- Questioning Ltin:
This was more because of Oak's post towards me cause of my vote on Infected before (not gonna search for it cause mobile phone) that I contributed zero to the thread, I found this suspicious and cause of my short knowledge I found it interesting how Ltin went against infected (during that time I never unvoted infected)

- aqua
Since you arent aware of it, I nearly always rate aqua's posts optimistic, make sarcastic notes towards him and much other things on TTT (when hes on). So it's just bullshit to say "aqua went serious, everyone that makes a joke toward him is suspicious". If you dont believe this, go to aquas profile and scroll a bit on his wall, you'll see.

- self-clear:
Lol this is the second mafia game I ever done (on the forums), and the first time I even got questioned, combining this with my low patience, yeah I am kinda quick and hasty to clear myself.

- kallie
You asked my suspections, I answered and I will add now, I was going for ideal circumstances and I was putting scenarios and facts against eachother.
(further correct me if I'm wrong but where am I defending kallie? I only noted her down in an ideal situation where she would probably be inno, I dont "shes innocent!" or "she might be muted/silences by 3p or what else!"

As last, every time notty or ender or any other experienced player is examined, the way they play the game is called their playstyle but apparentally I dont have a playstyle and I'sm just dumb and naïve?
(sorry if I appear semi-agressive)
 
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Hunter said:
well actually, nearly verbatim:

I knew there was another reason I thought that.
Taken straight from the sign-up thread.
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"That night" is implied there at the end. The role's wording from the role pm of the gadget does not imply your theory plus the idea that one role could take down the entire town so easily is ridiculous.
 
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