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I personally highly agree with Psycho. We need to be a lighthearted community that is welcoming towards others, not a Adult Swim on Cartoon network sort of thing. Besides, the use of the word "n*****" is really quite offensive towards black people. I know it's probably not being used in that context, but really you need to be considerate. It's not immature to be offended by a word. Not every word in the dictionary is morally a good one. I do believe that everyone on the community has forgotten the terms and conditions of joining this site. That includes no sexual and religious talk. I have been seeing things like "**** the Jews", and sexual talk on this site, and really that is EXTREMELY far fetched. The terms and conditions of this site clearly state that "sexual talk or religious subjects will NOT be tolerated." And whatever the Admin's say goes. Members, stop acting like you're the controllers and can do and write whatever you want. This community was not built on banter and vulgar comments, and if this was the case, you would have heard the admins say so. And if it was built off of banter, then why wasn't vulgar comments and cussing a thing back in Classic Blocktopia? I have been on here a long time to notice that vulgar speaking has become a norm when in early Blocktopia, it was hardly a normal thing. Clearly we weren't based off of this, it was built to unite Minecraft players together to have fun on TNT and things instead of making this a "come and talk about whatever is on your mind" hub. In a way, you're scaring new members away from the server because you're making them feel uncomfortable. Heck back then, this sort of talk was not tolerated by the admin, and if it got too excessive, they may have been banned.

Actually to be quite honest, I am just as upset as Psycho, and Psycho has every right to be unhappy. I'm actually doing my best to restrain myself from saying anything too harsh. I'm not starting another cussing post here (which btw was asking if people could tone it down and not do it excessively), I am talking merely about the overall context of what everyone's been saying. I do agree that this community needs a slap up the side to get them back on track. The admins are like the parents and the community the kids. Sometimes a little discipline is necessary. Things just can't always be left alone, it can't just be "live and let live". People need to get back on track. People are not going to like this post, and I am not forcing them to. But really, we need to stop doing what WE want to do, and start thinking about what is MORALLY right. That is all, thank you.

P.S. I've already written out my goodbye in the departure thread, and it's just waiting to be posted if this sort of vulgar talk continues. I am really not wanting to leave this community, in fact I love this community, but these sort of vulgar comments makes me love it less and less. And that is not my fault, and that doesn't mean I am uneducated. Please do not call me that.
 
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"I did have one, but I was told not to post it." I'm assuming an op suggested that?

So nobody wants this place to be friendlier? They want it to be a vulgar/sexual/rude chat hub? Ok that's fine, but I'll leave if it gets to that point. I'm asking people to quit the sex talk per regulations, trim the cussing to be like it was when it first started, and chill. This community brought me such joy in previous years, but now it's giving me nothing but aggravation. No one is friendly anymore, and if they are, they are people on the server and not the forums. I'm sorry, but it sounds like no one wants help, and they are not willing to think about things morally.
 

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Actually, I'm surprised that the excessive use of sex talk and cussing isn't considered spam, what with it's repeating cycle.
Forgive me if I sound unfriendly, but I am trying to help people, not create enemies. I am seriously ticked off at the way people have been acting lately. The only people I know on here that are friendly towards others are SirComputer, Psycho, some other admin, and the players on the server. Besides that I am not seeing any friendliness.
 

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Sir, so you're basically saying that anyone on here can do and say whaever they want? And are you also saying that this site needs to be like the rest of the internet where people say rude things and vulgar comments just because it's the internet? If people think this is a vulgar, rude, and sex talk hub, then they need to look elsewhere.
Read the original terms and conditions (last version 2014 for new members just joining), I distinctly remember when I joined on here that sex and religious talk was prohibited. I have been a member since 2011-12, you've been on here since 12. I know what's been going on here to notice. Nothing against you personally, but I'm just saying that this community has changed so.
Also, if anyone sends me trolls because of my opinion, I am reporting them because they are being immature and rude. I'm sorry but the truth needs to be told.
I'm basically saying and have already basically said that in my opinion we shouldn't censor words, expressions and phrases without any regard to context, but rather we should react to legitimately malicious content.

If this community has changed and you're just about the only one opposing that particular change, perhaps it's time to stop opposing it?

As for the original terms of service, I don't have them memorised. I thought we were still talking about year 2016, not 2011-12. If you can screenshot the part of the current terms of service that backs up the claim that some words and expressions should be and are banned without any regard to context and show it to us, I concede my point about it and instead move to defending the opinion that a change in the terms of service themselves is necessary, but right now I'm not even opposing the terms of service themselves, merely the overly constrictive and entirely up to the discretion and biases of the admins interpretation that I have seen in some occasions.
 

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"I did have one, but I was told not to post it." I'm assuming an op suggested that?

So nobody wants this place to be friendlier? They want it to be a vulgar/sexual/rude chat hub? Ok that's fine, but I'll leave if it gets to that point. I'm asking people to quit the sex talk per regulations, trim the cussing to be like it was when it first started, and chill. This community brought me such joy in previous years, but now it's giving me nothing but aggravation. No one is friendly anymore, and if they are, they are people on the server and not the forums. I'm sorry, but it sounds like no one wants help, and they are not willing to think about things morally.
I want this place to be friendlier and to be honest up until the infamous JubJubers incident of 2016 I didn't really have much of a problem with most people. HOWEVER I'll point the finger to myself and suggest that it's not just the people mentioned in this thread who could improve. I'm not exactly the friendliest person around here either but I'm happy to try to get on with others who I might not particularly like, even if that means ignoring them.

Quick edit because I'm seeing a lot of this in light of this thread: Maybe we should also stop the bitchy status's? And before I get the whole hypocritical finger pointed at me. Yeah I do it too but It's not cool and I know it's not cool.
 

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Can we please keep this thread productive? All this circle arguing is making both sides look bad.
How on Earth can this thread be productive? LITERALLY THE POINT OF THIS THREAD IS TO CALL PEOPLE OUT ON THEIR BEHAVIOR PUBLICLY INSTEAD OF IT BEING HANDLED IN A PRIVATE MANNER.

How could any of you had hoped that doing this thread was going to bring any kind of productive discussion, and about what, even?

Pyscho is not calling any thing to action here, if you read his post literally all he's doing is bitching at the people who are irritating him.

THIS THREAD IS DESIGNED TO BE READ BY THE PEOPLE HE'S COMPLAINING ABOUT, AND ONLY THOSE PEOPLE. This post being public is blatantly useless
 

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Can we please keep this thread productive? All this circle arguing is making both sides look bad.
This is literally the point of this thread, to argue and finally have some clarity and understanding on certain issues. The name of the thread is "Let's Talk", how can we have a disussion if you delete parts of it?
 

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It's been a long time since I've read it, but I remember that stuff in there. It didn't say anything about banning someone because of cussing, I was saying that cussing just naturally wasn't over used back then as much as it is today. I'm not even sure how to get to the old t.a.c on here unfortunately. What the admin says goes. It's not up to the members to make rules for the community. Suggestions and issues brought up yes, but it's up to the admin on what is said and what is not said.
 

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"I did have one, but I was told not to post it." I'm assuming an op suggested that?

So nobody wants this place to be friendlier? They want it to be a vulgar/sexual/rude chat hub? Ok that's fine, but I'll leave if it gets to that point. I'm asking people to quit the sex talk per regulations, trim the cussing to be like it was when it first started, and chill. This community brought me such joy in previous years, but now it's giving me nothing but aggravation. No one is friendly anymore, and if they are, they are people on the server and not the forums. I'm sorry, but it sounds like no one wants help, and they are not willing to think about things morally.
Sex talk and cussing has nothing to do with a friendlier environment. This forum isn't fucking middle school. You need to realize who you're dealing with here. It's about the arguments that people constantly bring up over and over again to each other and shoving it down their throats. Just like Vino said, we're pretty much a bunch of groups who fight with each other every chance we get. That's why this community is giving you "nothing but aggravation".
 

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This is literally the point of this thread, to argue and finally have some clarity and understanding on certain issues. The name of the thread is "Let's Talk", how can we have a disussion if you delete parts of it?
This may not be accurate, but I think it may have been because of the context of the post. The quoted parts are vulgar and a little over excessive. This is what I am talking about. "I'm going to **** you hard" should not be tolerated on this site.
 

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But don't you want a friendly/clean community? Just because it would be a clean community, does not mean it's middle school. Please don't indicate I'm a 6 year old because I have a moral stand point. As stated many times, I am doing everything I can to help the community as much as possible, and I really think people should be thinking about this.
Unless anyone has suggestions on how this can be a better and friendlier community, or if anyone else can prove that my argument is flawed and that I am always the one that is morally wrong, I am leaving the conversation here. I am trying to help, and I don't think things are going to change.
 
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