Mafia Season 6
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Hockeyfan1852
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This is your big explanation are you sure your not trying to get me out quick or something you can't even think of a good reason why I could be a mafia.
He might have been busy when he tried to make his explanation.. We can give him some more time to fully write his thoughts and reasoning why you could possibly be maf.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
I can take a guess at why defiant would vote hockey.
Digi accused of being Serial Killer -> Serial Killer killed 1 mafia -> Mafia wants to kill the Serial Killer fast.
I'll hear what defiant has to say, but the above sounds right to me which makes me suspicious of hockey.
Digi accused of being Serial Killer -> Serial Killer killed 1 mafia -> Mafia wants to kill the Serial Killer fast.
I'll hear what defiant has to say, but the above sounds right to me which makes me suspicious of hockey.
mariosatr
Imperator Romanus Sacer
Also, just to add, I was just saying that that's a factor in it. Another one could be due to the seemingly unexplained voting and the fact that the Mafia might want the SK dead, as notty said.
JKangaroo
Your Local, Neighborhood Marsupial
You already said it yourself: It IS a possibility.
BUT, so is everyone else in this game, whether talkative, not talkative, aggressive, passive, leading player, players watching from the sidelines, and essentially every other classification that a player can be in this game.
Anyone can be a possibility, as we do not know, and will not know, anyone's roles initially until they either
1) Die, and it is revealed through the story
2) You are a Cop or Contact Role
3) You are one of the above 2 roles and decide to share a persons role in this thread
This has been an issue I've been seeing a lot in Mafia seasons as of late, and really, I find this kind of argument absolutely terrible and not useful because of that fact in which that ANYONE can be mafia, and ANYONE can be ANY role in the game.
It IS a fairly bad argument, I agree.
We've already had long discussions on this topic, as well as the "Skillful players not dead = Mafia" and other such arguments that really essentially don't assist to the actual game, because you know what?:
ANYTHING is really a possibility in this game.
You CAN'T just choose a specific demographic to be a lynching-tool based on their style of play, or the like.
Remember Jolt in Mafia Lite Season 3, the one previous to this game?
Jolt's always been a quite person, and honestly I don't entirely hold it against him.
He was lynched because he is normally a quite person, and thus, apparently automatically defuncts him as a useful player worthy of being lynched, Mafia or not.
That's just... so unsportsmanlike.
I've been an advocate for stopping with those kinds of arguments for some Seasons now, because they really aren't all that useful. Can we please possibly using these kinds of arguments in our discussions when they don't have any tangible (though sometimes speculative) evidence to back up said claim? That would be great.
Anyways... Has no one really wondered that much about this?:
No, I'm not suspicious of Defiant because of this but...
And yes, he could just need a bit more time to explain his reasoning if he's busy...
Yet, why would you not just wait and say you'll need a bit more time to explain instead of merely saying "X person is Mafia?"
I doesn't really help unless explanation is given. I would've rather have waited for the actual explanation then that.
Plus, why Hockey? I know he quickly jumped on digi, but so did storm, and Notty was the source of the strong aggressive push on Digi in the first place. Yes, Notty kind of can be justified as a lapse in judgement or something like that (I still can't entirely think of a phrasing or reason why Notty argued about digi), yet both storm and hockey kind of jumped on digi without entirely explaining their reasoning.
Personally, should not all 3 remain suspicious because of it? Why just Hockey?
I still want to see why Defiant thinks this.
Besides this...
We essentially have a few suspects we currently have on the table:
1) Digi (for possible Serial Killer Affiliation, may be Town or Mafia Roles saved by Doctor, doctor herself)
2) Notty (Extreme aggression on digi with flawed arguments)
3) Storm & Hockey (Agreeing to Notty quickly and short of reasoning)
I could say Defiant is suspicious, however it is obvious that he merely needs additional time to explain himself and thus does not deserve suspicion because of that.
I went back through the thread and was reading various posts, saw this:
Possible scenario.
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I don't quite know what to actually say right now.
If we could get a question or idea to spur some discussion again, that would be good.
I think the thread kind of took a hit because of the news about Classic, though understandable, not certain if that is true about the slow pace these few days. >.<
I actually think we're doing a good job of avoiding the metagame thinking, and we didn't delve into the skilled vs unskilled argument.
I'll try my hand at another question(btw when I die, someone else will have to ask questions), and I will keep this question unbiased and fair to everyone.
Question: Reluctance is a major part of mafia. Is making a rash vote all that bad, when it can create a huge level of discussion the next day (after the role for the lynchee was revealed)?
I'll try my hand at another question(btw when I die, someone else will have to ask questions), and I will keep this question unbiased and fair to everyone.
Question: Reluctance is a major part of mafia. Is making a rash vote all that bad, when it can create a huge level of discussion the next day (after the role for the lynchee was revealed)?
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Depends on who you are lynching. If you're thinking of making a rash vote on me than you are making a big mistake. I can be usefull since I have 2 lifes at night(I claimed Elite Civilian). And I don't think that continuing to vote on digi will cause much good.
The only one I am comfortable making a rash vote on is hockey. Not sure why I prefer hockey above storm.
The only one I am comfortable making a rash vote on is hockey. Not sure why I prefer hockey above storm.
I find this ironic as you, yourself, were so close to being voted off without much reason. But you would be ok with voting off Hockey or me? I am suspicious of you claiming your elite civilian role. Since this role has two lives at night, it kind of gets the mafia off of your back for a little while, because it would be faster to get out a regular civilian with one kill rather than having to go two nights to get you. You also get on the good side with the civilians. They would rather lynch a regular civilian than you because two lives are more valuable at night.
You are basing your moves and opinions off what the majority of others are thinking rather what you truly believe. This gives you a sense of security. I don't know what role you have whether it be the lyncher or what, but your opinions are not consistent.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
They weren't voting me off without reason, I was being suspicious. Maybe it's all part of my plan, maybe I'm just being stupid.
But yeah, I am ok with voting Hockey off. Not you , I never implied that I wanted to vote you off.
Defiant_Blob
(￣^￣)ゞ
I'm deciding whether we should actually lynch Hockey so that we can actually learn about player's from Hockey's role, or whether we should just lynch among the others based on their reactions.
It's hard to lynch based on other reactions however as we don't know Hockey's role.
Also the reaction vote helps determine who is using Meta to determine their play style.
It's hard to lynch based on other reactions however as we don't know Hockey's role.
Also the reaction vote helps determine who is using Meta to determine their play style.
Oak Milk
Kill Hungry Thirsty Dead
Not sure what meta is Defiant x) but anyways, I'm curious at the way Notty is constantly at the centre of attention, although I'm not questioning his logic I'm questioning his role. It just seems strange the way he is in the middle of everything, its leading me to believe he isn't a towns folk and yet I don't believe he is mafia either. In my opinion Notty is a 3rd party role but I'm not quite sure which one. Further more
Maybe you are being stupid as you did imply earlier you prefered voting hockey over storm which does imply storm was your next target.
Hockeyfan1852
Member
I simply voted because I thought that Digital could be a serial killer and could be a risk to kill one of our power roles, but then someone brought up the point that Digital could be the doctor who would logically save themselves the first night so then I retracted my vote.
Defiant_Blob
(￣^￣)ゞ
Also, Meta is using information outside of the game to play. For example, seeing if people are experienced, and using that information to play here, rather than only using the present information. Meta is an essential part of the game, however; so I'm not frowning on it. Just relying on it can be extremely risky.
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