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Alisha

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Honestly, I'm leaning towards a no-lynch now since we have absolutely no leads.

I deduced that Kylie wasn't the doctor because she recommended keeping the serial killer alive, wheras that would make the doctor's job tougher. The doctor would want less potential people to die.

But if you guys don't believe me, I don't know how to prove myself undeniably right as I haven't found any mafia from investigations.
 

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Alpha is making a fair point with kylie there, although she never said she was the doctor she denied it again. I know she could be lieing but I believe she is telling the truth on that. As for such I am going to keep my lynch on her as nobody else is suspicious to me right now (aside from alpha but I want to keep him in).
 

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I want to bring up a name for discussion. storm866.

A tactic that the mafia is capable of utilizing is staying invisible by contributing nothing to the discussion and simply providing votes as needed. Which I noticed he utilized a bit as well as voiced his opinion against it.

In day 1, storm866 provided little analysis on justifying his vote for Nottykitten. In a game where analysis is necessary. Now I will give him credit for one post calling out Nottykitten for going along with the rest of the votes.

...Except that after votes started piling up on Nottykitten he swapped his vote from digitalmez to Nottykitten as well. He went along with everyone else and was one of the last people to vote for Nottykitten.

Nottykitten even called him out for it before he(nottykitten) died.

Day 2

storm866 did attempt to bring DillonSaysRawr into the discussion.

Then he accused balloon98 of being mafia next, and disregarded Dillon's generic reaction post, despite ARGUING against that kind of post. Then he accused balloon98 of not taking a side until the last second. Which is exactly what he(storm866) did by swapping his vote to Nottykitten.

In a future post, he did give reasons for voting balloon98 off, with thoughtful analysis on generic votes. Which ironically is what I am accusing him(storm866) of.

In another post, he quickly followed me into the Kylieanna lynch, and backed up what I said. What is of note, is that I had to repeat myself several times on the reason I voted for Kylieanna, while storm got off without needing to explain his vote. Sliding under our radars.

Here's what I think: balloon98 and storm866 are on different sides.

I am MORE suspicious of storm, due to his general statements in the beginning, accusing people of making general statements, and then swapping his vote and bandwagoning on my Kylieanna vote.
 

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I don't have much to defend about my bandwagon vote, tbh; I've already stated what I could to defend myself, and I'll put that post here. My recommendation on keeping the serial killer alive was for day one or day two. Not the entire game. And that was so we could get and extra kill, an extra chance at striking mafia, and since we have quite an amount of people still left and it's only day two, it's a risk we can take, but it depends if the citizens like it, and generally, when citizens don't like something they vote against the person who stated it first/enforce the statement. I can't blame you for thinking that's suspicious, but it was generally me trying to defend digitalmez and trying to enforce a statement that was not originally my own, and was in fact, JKangaroo's (I never wanted to say who's it was, because I was afraid you'd use the same suspicion you have on me to vote him off, but since he stated this himself earlier, it doesn't change much if I mention him. Sorry Kangaroo!). I can't blame you if you think I'm suspicious, maybe in my next game I shouldn't press so hard, but it was something that people never really replied to, so I just kept posting it to make sure people would see, since an idea is worth a million dollars here. I guess that was a mistake too.. oops.

I was thought of as a doctor? What? I never claimed or tried to make you believe I was a doctor, so why would you think that? I certainly am not a doctor, you silly derps x3.

I don't really have much to say atm. I was trying hard not to get digi to be voted off due to the fact that there wasn't even that much of a chance of her being the serial killer and she could've been anything, saved by the doctor or not, and we made the same mistake voting old man oak off on the first day of mafia season 5. I just think on the first day of mafia the serial killer can be useful, but when we have less people alive (day three/four) it's a risk not worth taking, but of course, this is my first mafia game, and I could be too relaxed for it right now. I just don't think scurrying around and thinking "but we NEED a vote, we'll be screwed if not despite it's the first-second day and we have quite a bunch of people". Yes, I understand the risk of not voting or getting 3 kills on the first-second day, but we still have quite a lot of people, and hurrying a vote can let us lose one.

About my logic of not voting off the serial killer, well, I don't believe I'm the only one who thought this, I just tried to express the idea as much as I could because it seems people simply skimmed over it when someone else posted it and I actually thought it was a good opinion and could work. It was also me trying my hardest to not let someone die when they had a much, much higher chance of being innocent.

I can easily understand your reason of wanting to vote me off, and when I look back on it, pressing so hard on that fact couldn't have worked very well and isn't working very well for me right now, so I did make a mistake, and a single mistake makes a person suspicious in a game of mafia. I was also proven wrong by a few people if my memory serves me, and they also had good opinions, and I think I got the idea then.

JKangaroo said:
(After the Kylie posts started to go, I was going to post this, but never really had the chance)
Kylieanna said:
About my logic of not voting off the serial killer, well, I don't believe I'm the only one who thought this, I just tried to express the idea as much as I could because it seems people simply skimmed over it when someone else posted it and I actually thought it was a good opinion and could work. It was also me trying my hardest to not let someone die when they had a much, much higher chance of being innocent.​
Actually, you are very much true, because I believe I was the first person to actual state such an opinion, in fact, if you all want reference, go all the way back to Page 3 of this thread, and toward the end of that page, my lengthy post should be prevalent and known in regards to that opinion, because I do believe in that opinion.
Here is the whole post with the actual statement of believing the serial killer was a potential asset in bold for those of you who don't want to flip all the way back there. ;)

So honestly, if Kylie must be put up onto the chopping block, then I believe so must I, because I was indeed, the first person to do so.
And honestly, I am VERY surprised Kylie was picked as scapegoat for this suspicion in the first place, over myself, seeing as I believe I did state such an opinion first, and so early in the game.
But besides that, at the moment, the argument against Kylie is rather... well... flawed, because as Kylie already stated, I don't quite remember Kylie ever hinting or stating that she was a power-role, primarily that of the doctor in any way.
Alpha102 said:
I actually think voting Kylieanna is a good choice.

Her reasoning of not voting off the serial killer in day 1 makes me confident she's not the doctor. Why would a doctor want more night killings to happen, when they can only save one person?

Vote: Kylieanna.​
In fact, everything apart of Day 1 was essentially focused on protecting Digi against what appeared to be a very flawed argument proposed by Notty.
I believe you are getting the "doctor" idea from the idea that digi, because she had survived the previous night, could be one of 4 scenario's:
1) Digi is an Elite Civilian
2) Digi is the Serial killer
3) Digi is either Mafia or a non-2 life role and was saved via. Doctor
4) Digi IS the doctor and decided to save herself.

First, may is stress the latter scenario's, 3 and 4, which involved the doctor's role. Note that this was a debatable topic in terms of actually defending digi originally again'st Notty's accusations, and at the moment, could still be a possibility. However, this was really the only time the "doctor role" ever came directly up from conversation from what I remember.

Also we must stress the serial killer scenario.
Digi could still be the serial killer, but honestly, if we look back over posts already previously written as well as using normal logic, we can believe that digi, out of all the current players (well, at the time), was relatively quite slim and really not that big of an idea to really jump on that automatically sets digi as a lynching target, at least, that was what the atmosphere was back on Day 1.

However, digi could have been the serial killer, and still can be right now, hiding under our noses.
But to me, such an idea (since it seems im trying to cover every possibility and that I'm on a rant thanks to reading over Day 1 again) that Kylie would be anti-town just because she has a specific opinion in terms of the Serial killer, doesn't directly make her suspicious to me.
Everything else about day 1 was supposed to somewhat show additional ideas in your flaw/argument (unless you give evidence of Kylie and the doctor), but I'm not entirely sure if I made a point or not/if it was clear. :unsure:

At the moment, I don't see myself voting off Kylie(or digi, seeing as I tended to stray toward her a lot in that >.<) any time soon with that argument.
Honestly. despite myself stating No Lynching isn't a very good idea at this point,
seeing how the arguments have progressed thus far, and how little some people seem to be participating, nothing is really getting done this in-game day, and really, I'm tempted just to No-Lynch to get this day over with. We aren't getting anywhere with these arguments (at least, it seems that way to me).
We still need more activity from the quieter crowd.
 

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I want to bring up a name for discussion. storm866.

A tactic that the mafia is capable of utilizing is staying invisible by contributing nothing to the discussion and simply providing votes as needed. Which I noticed he utilized a bit as well as voiced his opinion against it.

In day 1, storm866 provided little analysis on justifying his vote for Nottykitten. In a game where analysis is necessary. Now I will give him credit for one post calling out Nottykitten for going along with the rest of the votes.

...Except that after votes started piling up on Nottykitten he swapped his vote from digitalmez to Nottykitten as well. He went along with everyone else and was one of the last people to vote for Nottykitten.

Nottykitten even called him out for it before he(nottykitten) died.

Day 2

storm866 did attempt to bring DillonSaysRawr into the discussion.

Then he accused balloon98 of being mafia next, and disregarded Dillon's generic reaction post, despite ARGUING against that kind of post. Then he accused balloon98 of not taking a side until the last second. Which is exactly what he(storm866) did by swapping his vote to Nottykitten.

In a future post, he did give reasons for voting balloon98 off, with thoughtful analysis on generic votes. Which ironically is what I am accusing him(storm866) of.

In another post, he quickly followed me into the Kylieanna lynch, and backed up what I said. What is of note, is that I had to repeat myself several times on the reason I voted for Kylieanna, while storm got off without needing to explain his vote. Sliding under our radars.

Here's what I think: balloon98 and storm866 are on different sides.

I am MORE suspicious of storm, due to his general statements in the beginning, accusing people of making general statements, and then swapping his vote and bandwagoning on my Kylieanna vote.
There really is no point in arguing; this is just an analysis that is correct. I did do all of those things. If you think that I am the mafia/independent role because of this, lynch me.

Votes:
Alpha102 - 1
Kylieanna - 1
storm886 - 2
No Lynch - 1
Abstain - 1
 

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Seeing how storm isn't attempting to defend himself at all, and after reading alpha's post, I'm going to vote for storm886.

I never actually implied that you said I was doctor, I just thought from the way you wrote that I wasn't a doctor that you meant you thought I might've been a doctor, and so that was why I stated it :3
 

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Kylieanna Okay, glad the confusion was cleared :D

I'm going to remove my abstain and vote storm866. He didn't offer a rebuttal or justification to the argument I presented against him.

And for the love of [insert deity here], maybe day 3 will start up some activity again. Hopefully its because the doctor saves me tonight and I successfully investigate an anti-town role.
 

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I don't know how to go around thinking about this; we need to get the game moving but we can't really risk many more mislynches
You're going to be very disappointed if you go through with this...................
Then you should reply with evidence that you aren't mafia? At the current moment, you're not doing anything to help the argument or defend yourself and it just makes us more suspicious of you, if you could give us reasons as to why you voted straight up it'd help.
 

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I don't know how to go around thinking about this; we need to get the game moving but we can't really risk many more mislynches
You're going to be very disappointed if you go through with this...................
Then make us believe you. You are doing nothing to help yourself right now.

And oh gosh I think he might be the fool a little bit right now.
 

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I don't know how to go around thinking about this; we need to get the game moving but we can't really risk many more mislynches
You're going to be very disappointed if you go through with this...................
Then make us believe you. You are doing nothing to help yourself right now.

And oh gosh I think he might be the fool a little bit right now.
He cant be the fool.
The fool died day 1. The fool was 77_is_the_best.

There are only 3 independent roles if you do not count the serial killer
1)Fool
2)Lyncher
3)Fan-boy.

All but the serial killer and lyncher are dead.
(Will post something else soon, bit busy at the moment)
 

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Hmm... sorry, but I'm still not completely convinced. Maybe I'm being too careful or reluctant, but also, Notty's thoughts were that storm was safe. He seems a bit jumpy, but I'm just not sure... I'm considering voting for him, since Alpha's reasons are strong, but I feel I need a bit more to tip the balance. I'll just retract my no-lynch vote for now and reach a conclusion later.
 
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