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For what it's worth to anyone at all ever at any point, personally I see Caff as absolutely Town (because as mafia the past two games she seemed to wait for the majority opinion on something and then ride the waves and agree without actually asserting her opinion much but now she's a lot more vocal on what she thinks, in my eyes at least), I see jk as evil (if that wasn't clear already), I see tim as suspicious and I can't tell whether Dess was doing some tactic similar to last game or if he was just on similar wavelengths to me and just so happened to agree and buy into everything I said. Just my opinions so far in case I die suddenly or something I guess lol, WHO KNOWS MAYBE THERE'S A GUN
 

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personally I see Caff as absolutely Town because as mafia the past two games she seemed to wait for the majority opinion on something and then ride the waves and agree without actually asserting her opinion much but now she's a lot more vocal on what she thinks
Also you'll notice there literally has not been a majority opinion to make waves for her to ride on. Overall I think that's a terrible read. I'm not saying that Caff can't be town, but I think your reasoning for reading her as town is just outright bad.
Also I'm hopefully going to shut up for a bit now because I feel like I've been way too opinionated and pointy this game!!
As if being overly opinionated would make you suspicious at this point. Literally [according to your claim] you're not even town. So why would it matter to you if people think you're suspicious for being "opinionated and pointy"? I'm beginning to think (Well, past beginning, but not far enough to say 'halfway thinking' or whatever) that you're not third party at all, but rather mafia.
 

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Also you'll notice there literally has not been a majority opinion to make waves for her to ride on. Overall I think that's a terrible read. I'm not saying that Caff can't be town, but I think your reasoning for reading her as town is just outright bad.

As if being overly opinionated would make you suspicious at this point. Literally [according to your claim] you're not even town. So why would it matter to you if people think you're suspicious for being "opinionated and pointy"? I'm beginning to think (Well, past beginning, but not far enough to say 'halfway thinking' or whatever) that you're not third party at all, but rather mafia.
As for the read, it's just a vibe in general, which is including her way of posting, idk, if it wasn't clear already I'm not good at explaining these things.

And I didn't mean I was being suspicious, I meant I was annoying myself with how brutally closed minded and opinionated I've been this game for whatever reason, pointing fingers everywhere and stuff (probably stress because school and stuff or my role being kinda useless!!). I have pretty much no care for seeming suspicious right now because the game is over for me ;-;
 

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And I know it seems like I'm appealing to emotion or whatever but I'm not I'm just sulking!!! IVE HAD A LONG DAY OKAY

Also I was doing some thinking about jk and his claim and I'm super confused because if he's telling the truth, that's OP right? And if he's telling the truth about the group but he's Mafia within it, that's OP for the Mafia too, and if jk were Mafia and he revealed this group, someone would know for sure he's lying so I'm so confused and don't even know what to think anymore but it's like 1:00am so I should sleep
 

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Holy fuck you guys talk a lot.

So as far as the explanation for why I visited Ooglie on night one. Without going into full details of what my role is (for once it is out I will be killed) I can assure you that I am town sided. If I was the remaining mafia member or the serial killer Ooglie would be dead. However that being said, due to my visiting him it is entirely possible that he was attacked but it did not go through.

I do have to say though, after JK's post I do find it fairly buyable unless he is just very good at convincing us to believe that which has already been stated.

Looking at the trends for the deaths so far, unless the power roles with kill abilities have gotten very lucky and killed only power roles, I find it very likely that EVERYBODY has a power. JK's claim gives us three more power roles to work with and then we know of one more mafia member and the serial killer who are still out there unless there is some form of a scrambler.
 

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So as far as the explanation for why I visited Ooglie on night one. Without going into full details of what my role is (for once it is out I will be killed) I can assure you that I am town sided. If I was the remaining mafia member or the serial killer Ooglie would be dead. However that being said, due to my visiting him it is entirely possible that he was attacked but it did not go through.
Well, there we go, 3rd (or at least, second if you don't count tim) investigation confirmed.
Thanks for the response Dess!

Hopefully that at least solidifies the fact that I at least have access to investigations from other people, and at least proves I'm apart of some group, whether that be in the Mafia or whatever group, or the Security group as I'm claiming to be.
Also jk I noticed you didn't respond to a part of my post - why did you name the group you have yourself? Does it not have its own name like the board of directors does?
I--- don't quite understand the question? x)
Do you mean like... me naming the group the "Security Council" in my reveal post?
If that's what you mean then the answer is simple:
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Doesn't the word "council" just seem cool? It feels more epic and important and rolls off the tongue in a satisfying way.
It's like how in Bloody Masquerade there was the group called the Voltari Tribunal. Ooo that's such an awesome word. Tribunal.
Hey, look, I'm a fan of good writing. It's sorta what I'm good at and I love reading different words for things.

I mean, sure our group I guess has an actual name. "Security Guard Night Chat." But that's so... boring for a role reveal specifically, and isn't really a "group name" either.
I wanted to spice things up, and being a "council" of security guards has almost the same connotation: we're an assembly of people who meet regularly.
It's also easier for future reference, or at least, I think so.

If that doesn't answer your question, let me know!

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And honestly, we don't even know what the "Board of Directors" are.
A message over the building-wide intercom wakes everyone that was sleeping up.
"Hello, this is your town-sided Board of Directors speaking. We intended to broadcast a message revealing our existence to you all last night however were too slow. Tomorrow is a big day - anyone with information that could be of importance please come forward and ensure you choose any actions wisely tonight.

Groups of evil may exist as a counter to us - if anyone has received any broadcasts previously claiming to be us they have lied.

Sleep well."
I mean, do they even exist? Why haven't they said anything today, especially since another group (the Security Council) has come forward as well. It almost feels like since all the focus is on the group I'm in, they want their group to sort of fall back and not be remembered as much since it's not in the limelight.
Are they even town-sided? I personally find it suspicious that they HAVE to say that their "town-sided" in there opening statement.
Why were they "too slow" yesterday? (unless that just means their members were busy IRL, then that makes sense and is totally understandable).
And why is today of all days a "big day?" What's so important about today.
And what "groups of evil" are a "counter" to them specifically? And why does that matter to us if they aren't going to present themselves; unlike the Security council with our investigations we don't have any reason to believe they're real/trustworthy.
(and when I say "real" I mean just not a singular person making messages like the Protester of last game).
Has there been any broadcasts claiming to have been them?
I don't know, it's just all so... vague.

I just don't see a reason to believe them at the current moment.

...I mean, are you not apart of the Board? Wouldn't that make sense for an official? :p
Especially for one being so corrupt, hehe.
(I say this half-jokingly)
 

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And honestly, we don't even know what the "Board of Directors" are.
I mean, do they even exist? Why haven't they said anything today, especially since another group (the Security Council) has come forward as well. It almost feels like since all the focus is on the group I'm in, they want their group to sort of fall back and not be remembered as much since it's not in the limelight.
I was hoping to wait until tomorrow for anyone from the Board of Directors to come out, so we could talk it through and have a designated spokesperson...But in order to avoid arguments like "You and your mafia buddies just wanted to have a tactics discussion about whether coming out is a sound plan" and similar such arguments, I'm going to say that I am on the Board of Directors.

Starting with what the Board actually is: The Board of Directors is a group of three players that meet at night and can send any number of system messages at any point in the night. That's it. One player is the President, and chooses two players to put on the council, and should any non-presidential members die, they are replaced by the President choosing a new players. That's all there is: The President chooses two people to join him in a night chat and the three of them can (with a majority) send messages at night.

Why were they "too slow" yesterday? (unless that just means their members were busy IRL, then that makes sense and is totally understandable).
We spent most of the night trying to figure out "why are we here; what can we do?" The answers to said questions being "Because the President picked us" and "Not much." So by the time we decided to send a message, it was too late for us to have a majority vote to send it, so it didn't get sent.
And why is today of all days a "big day?" What's so important about today.
Isn't every day a big day? As for it being particularly important compared to other days: It's not. We just wanted to feel important with our underwhelming ability :c
And what "groups of evil" are a "counter" to them specifically?
Fuck if we know. That was a remnant of Night One's unsent message, because we were speculating.

I am available to answer any further questions about the Board of Directors.
 

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But in order to avoid arguments like "You and your mafia buddies just wanted to have a tactics discussion about whether coming out is a sound plan" and similar such arguments,
That wasn't quite the direction I thought things were gonna go since I was basically just gonna ignore that you guys existed since we had nothing to go on but I guess its good that we now have more stuff to talk about and understand more of in the game. x)
Starting with what the Board actually is: The Board of Directors is a group of three players that meet at night and can send any number of system messages at any point in the night. That's it. One player is the President, and chooses two players to put on the council, and should any non-presidential members die, they are replaced by the President choosing a new players. That's all there is: The President chooses two people to join him in a night chat and the three of them can (with a majority) send messages at night.
So it totally is the Voltari Tribunal all over again!
(Well, without all the stabbing and the killing and the murder...
y'know, just try not to kill your leader like with what happened to Mmarz in that game. I swear I wasn't paranoid in suggesting he was evil that time! I swear!)
Isn't every day a big day? As for it being particularly important compared to other days: It's not. We just wanted to feel important with our underwhelming ability :c
Pssh. So says the person who had a game that was super focused on inns.
I don't know about you but inns are awesome.
 

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Pssh. So says the person who had a game that was super focused on inns.
I don't know about you but inns are awesome.
Pssh. I meant the fact that we can send messages. Because the members of the group were picked randomly, there is no intrinsic way of getting relevant information into the reports.
(This post has been sitting here for like half an hour. I was doing a bunch of things and forgot to hit post xD)
 

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JK why dont we just prove your claim and have the other two members claim. Infact why dont we all just claim? We have 9 people left we might aswell mass claim right now.

Not only will it prove or disprove your claim, but if its true we can get their investigation/tracking result right now. I see no reason for us not to mass-claim.
 

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Well. That's...interesting.

Find it pretty plausible that every player has a power of some sort, which makes it especially strange that (as far as I remember) the mafia are just listed as 'terrorist'. It makes me think that there's likely a role on their side that hides identities, which bould prove problematic. We don't know what sorts of powers they started with, and what they know besides what's been said.

(Sorry, I fell asleep in the middle of writing this so it's a bit late)
 

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Well. That's...interesting.

Find it pretty plausible that every player has a power of some sort, which makes it especially strange that (as far as I remember) the mafia are just listed as 'terrorist'. It makes me think that there's likely a role on their side that hides identities, which bould prove problematic. We don't know what sorts of powers they started with, and what they know besides what's been said.

(Sorry, I fell asleep in the middle of writing this so it's a bit late)
Are you in JK's security detail?
 
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