MEDIEVAL MAFIA: INTRUSION [DAY 8]

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Who is the most suspicious to you, out of Road, Ansoro and Hunter?
I believe that Hunter is guilty but to be completely honest this day is taking way too long and I just want some progress kthx
Paraphrased, why?
wait wut is this asking me to do
If your foremost suspicion is lynched, what do you think that it will mean if they're:

Guilty?
I would put "trust" into Road and Ansoro. I would be very suspicious of MyUser above all, they may have all voted for Road but he was the one who backed out when he noticed that more votes were going Hunter's way, as to seem like he wasn't on Hunter's side.
Innocent?
Well fuck, Lynch the shit outta me.
ah I didn't think it would look that bad however i may as well explain the situation now. I was never on hunters side I'm unsure why you're trying to suggest i was. I've been on the road is acting very scummy side. Earlier on there wasn't all the much evidence for hunter. I did get an anti-town vibe from hunter earlier but I don't support lynches on emotions alone so i didn't do anything with him, in that time Road came along as a much bigger suspect so I voted him rather than jump on the magical hunter bandwagon.

as far as Hunter, road and ansoro are concerned I don't think any of them are town. I think they are all scum and would therefore be willing to lynch all of them.

Activity was dying, Low activity can massively hinder town efforts so since i had no problems with lynching any of them I was going to abstain and let the others decide which to vote rather than watch the town come into deadlock and all activity stop whatsoever

It's no longer needed now that a deadline has been added to the game so I'm not going to rush a days end i don't think another day will make all that much difference to our activity so I'm going to re-vote the person i feel most certain to be scum at the end of this post.


(to those unsure how an abstain works, It discounts me from the total votes required so the votes required to lynch drop by one)

but myuser this looks defensive, You must be mafia scum. DIE!!!!!

people seem to be getting the wrong idea that I'm on some kind of side. I'm really just voting people i find most suspicious and I wanted to clarify where people stand as far as suspiciousness in the game. I also wanted to explain why the vote-changing since I know that almost always looks shifty


vote road to ruin
 

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who do you find most suspicious?
Da Jinks. He's not cautious to throw around a lynch. While this might be just to create discussion, it also seems that he doesn't care if they were innocent, or already knows they're innocent.
why do you think the death count is so low each night?
Maybe new players are scared to take risks and don't really know how to use their power role to the best of their advantage.
who else do you find suspicious?
GmK. a little bit iffy on this, but alpha was the first to vote for nitasu, and now he's dead. However GmK also voted for nitasu, which is why I'm iffy on this suspicion. And yes, nitasu broke rules, which is probably a bigger reason as to why people voted for him. So nothing major, just a fos.
why do you think both sploorky and alpha were killed already?
Both players obviously experienced players. And a little more on alpha stated above.
why do you think no power roles have "outed" themselves yet with a confirmed mafia?
(Do you mean like a cop putting forward his evidence?) If so, 1) Maybe an inexperience player, unsure what to do, or scared of being killed by mafia. 2) Maybe they haven't found anything.
what do you think the pattern is behind the night deaths?
I really don't see a pattern.
Sploorky: Experienced, turned out to be a town power role.
Alpha: Experienced, possibly angered of gmk, unknown role
brownlee: Inexperienced, a bit inactive, and unknown role.
Maybe the mafia is going for the experienced players. And the SK or vig took a shot at an inno.

NOTE: This is the information I've acquired from what I've skimmed through from all of the deaths.
I would like to post an updated one (tomorrow I'm busy for the rest of the night) of what I can get from Day2.
 

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Who is the most suspicious to you, out of Road, Ansoro and Hunter?
Definitely Hunter.
Paraphrased, why?
Well, it's 20% because I'd like to move on to the next day and 80% that I think Hunter seems the scummiest at the moment, and definitely quite suspicious for the reasons stated on the few pages before this,
If your foremost suspicion is lynched, what do you think that it will mean if they're:

Guilty?
Guess that means the civilians are closer to victory, woo! ^^

Innocent?
Shit. Oh, god. Uhmm, oops? :~:
 

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Who is the most suspicious to you, out of Road, Ansoro and Hunter?
Hunter.

Paraphrased, why?
Firstly, he has been desperately trying to push attention off his shoulders and direct suspicions at the people who are suspicious of him. I see this as scummy, if he were anti-town this would definitely be an attempt to get someone on the right track lynched and thus save the trouble of having to deal with them later. Secondly, I skimmed through the previous pages and like what Notty said, he did not provide logical/detailed reasoning for his lynch on Ltin.

If your foremost suspicion is lynched, what do you think that it will mean if they're:

Guilty?
Could lead us to the other possible mafia members by analysing the discussion/relationships he had with others. Which means one big step forward.

Innocent?
Well, crap. Hopefully he isn't a power role.
 

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VOTECOUNT!!!
-Hunter27a1 = 10(Nottykitten, the road to ruin, ansoro2112, Ooglie101, HypeBurst, grimmjowforever, storm886, Natsu, std1997, Watermelon1388, cooliorules,) (L-3)
-the road to ruin = 6(GmK, 77_is_the_best, Jivvi, Hunter27a1, DaJinks, myusername22) (L-7)

Takes 13 to lynch. So far, Hunter will be lynched at the end of the day if he maintains majority.
 

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Defending yourself isn't a crime. It's even been joked about in previous discussions.
That's not what I meant. What I meant was the he was trying to direct attention off to someone else.
Doesn't matter too much because
I'd like to point it can be somewhat natural for someone to take suspicion of anyone who suspects them.
It's the same thing
True, I admit, should have looked at from another perspective. However my vote on hunter stays the same.
 

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Who is the most suspicious to you, out of Road, Ansoro and Hunter?
Right now, Road, but for me that isn't saying too much.
Paraphrased, why?
His sudden attack on Hunter seemed a bit suspicious. However, even to me that doesn't seem that suspicious... it more of seemed like his playstyle, trying to get the game moving. As for Hunter and ans, I feel they've been mostly defending themselves, and don't warrant a huge amount of suspicion from me. Road's jumping on Hunter is the best guess I have at Mafia, however shallow it is (which means I won't vote on it).
If your foremost suspicion is lynched, what do you think that it will mean if they're:

Guilty?
Then my previous thoughts would be proven wrong, we'd be a mafia up, and Hunter would surely be innocent.
Innocent?
Puts Hunter in suspicion, we also have to think more carefully. Who could be manipulating the game? Who could be sitting back? It's usually either the most controlling players (who manage to keep themselves out of suspicion but control the pace of the game) or the more idle players (who let people inevitably suspect others and let it take its course), and I still think that. If it's definitely not Road or Hunter, I'll think more on that one.

Until more solid evidence comes up, I'll not vote for now.
 

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REMINDER: THE DAY ENDS IN LESS THAN FIVE HOURS.

Here are your votes again:

VOTECOUNT!!!
-Hunter27a1 = 10(Nottykitten, the road to ruin, ansoro2112, Ooglie101, HypeBurst, grimmjowforever, storm886, Natsu, std1997, Watermelon1388, cooliorules,) (L-3)
-the road to ruin = 6(GmK, 77_is_the_best, Jivvi, Hunter27a1, DaJinks, myusername22) (L-7)

Takes 13 to lynch. So far, Hunter will be lynched at the end of the day if he maintains majority.
 

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You lot haven't voted yet. It would be good if you could at least provide a bit more of your point of view, as most of you haven't said much, either.

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My point of view is basically what I provided above - out of everyone, the one I "suspect" most is Road, but on a wider scale I think the Mafia's not one of those majorly caught in either end of the argument, or instead one controlling the argument.
 

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My point of view is basically what I provided above - out of everyone, the one I "suspect" most is Road, but on a wider scale I think the Mafia's not one of those majorly caught in either end of the argument, or instead one controlling the argument.


so long as a deadline is in place someone is going to be lynched so why not make it the person you suspect rather than someone you suspect less?
 
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Hey guys I'm having a bit of technical issues with quotes so bear with me.

So Jivvi said in post 836
Defending yourself isn't a crime. It's even been joked about in previous discussions.
And Mysuername22 said in post 837
I completely agree. Also I'd like to point it can be somewhat natural for someone to take suspicion of anyone who suspects them.

Scum talk! As Jivvi said defending yourself isn't a crime, but as has been the argument from the beginning it isn't about Hunter defending himself its about but how he did it, folding in with myusernames's comment, it is not natural for someone to suspect anyone who suspects you. Taking into account that most people are town, its statistically unlikely that who ever suspects you is scum. If your not scum you should be capable of standing on your feet with your defense alone, however hunter has been combining every plea of innocence as a weapon of my guilt. He has denounced the false dilemma yet has used it as his main weapon.
 

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The false dilemma is a logical fallacy in which one states two (or more!) options, such as
  1. lynch road
  2. lynch hunter
and purports them as the only option.

I'm not focusing on that particular fallacy here. I was simply suggesting that there are other lynch options besides the two mentioned above.

While I'm here, I'd like to step back a bit and point out something else, from the viewpoint of an uninvolved observer.
Let's say Road gets lynched and turns out innocent. Hunter would then be bound to be blamed for the unfortunate incident. This wouldn't have Hunter be 100% guilty. Likewise, if road turns out mafia, Hunter would not be cleared, as this could be a double bus.

Say Hunter get lynched (which, unfortunately for him, seems quite likely under the current circumstances) and turns up innocent. This would not warrant a lynch on road. If Hunter were to die guilty, this would not clear road, as this could be an example of bussing.

The whole third party aspect adds another dimension entirely, and it seems to me that damn near anyone could be accused of being the Hangman.

The one role I haven't yet mentioned in this post is the serial killer, which, if revealed, would make for an interesting Day 3.
 
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