Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

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I think we're tunneling notty too much.

 

[Nottykitten]

No reason? Did you read ANY of day 0? She has been acting extremely scummy in behaviour ( in terms of how she's acting and how she's now trying to manipulate people such as yourself into voting me now inf's out of the picture (even tho her reasons for voting me being "I kept switching between her and inf" is completely redundant because she did the exact same thing between inf and choco)),

Except I had to hop onto whichever one was more likely to be lynched because otherwise I'd be lynched. You were in no danger of being lynched there but sure forget to mention that and instead mention how I convinced people that Inf was scum and wow he was(well third party but still 1 for 0 here).

the fact she refused to claim for so long even tho she was obviously going to get voted if she didn't,

I explained this 5 times yesterday but you clearly don't understand hopes and dreams

the fact her claim is not too strong, has a way out (the part about not getting any results if she's focused or something like that icr)

how, based on inf flipping 3p with the role of "the hermit" which greatly backs the theory that roles and alignment match tarot cards. Highly suggests notty is not town.

Except I am town which highly suggests your theories, like Inf's, are trash.

The fact she's literally trying to turn people onto me even tho I'm proven to be justice by Hk, and have been hard pushing against the 3 people who have been deemed most likely scum all through the game.

First of all, you haven't been proven justice at all. Not that I care since I see no reason anyone would lie about their card, but Hk only said you're not the empress so get off your high horse. Also did I mention the scummy one is you, if you really believe the stupid card = alignment theory which I know to be false, then you're the serial killer congratz(you're scum though).

Enderfive claim or die tomorrow Fucko McGee

Did you decide to become Inf and use his tactics of 'If you're not on my side you're Maf and we're going after you next'. Inf, the anti-town, tried that on me too and thats an anti-town move.

 

[Nottykitten]

Also at the start of this day I genuinly thought this would be a 1-hour day where I'd say bye bye and tell people to lynch Aqua after I'm dead but I guess theres more sane people in this town than I thought. So with that I'll vote someone who actually deserves it instead of throwing

Unvote
Vote Aqua

 

[Enderfive]

Jolterino votecount?

 

[Jolterino]

[BCOLOR=transparent]Day 1 - Vote Count[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Aqua (2): Enderfive, Nottykitten[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Nottykitten (5): Ooglie101, hipman500(x2), Aqua, ChocoFox[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]ChocoFox (1): myusername22[/BCOLOR]

[BCOLOR=transparent]With 21 players alive, it takes 11 players to lynch and 11 players to no lynch.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.[/BCOLOR]

 

[Aqua]

Jolterino votecount?

Don't ignore me Ender.

A) What's your response to proving all of your previous "points" wrong
B) What's your card

 

[Aqua]

Except I had to hop onto whichever one was more likely to be lynched because otherwise I'd be lynched. You were in no danger of being lynched there but sure forget to mention that and instead mention how I convinced people that Inf was scum and wow he was(well third party but still 1 for 0 here).

I also convinced people inf was scum and like I have said a bajillion times...

I. wanted. a. lynch. day 0.

That's why i kept swapping my vote. You were all scum in my eyes. I originally painted inf and choco as a mafia team and you as a separate 3p.

that assumption was wrong but it still doesn't make my suspicions any less valid or my reason for switching to whoever was more likely to be lynched.

 

[Aqua]

First of all, you haven't been proven justice at all. Not that I care since I see no reason anyone would lie about their card, but Hk only said you're not the empress so get off your high horse. Also did I mention the scummy one is you, if you really believe the stupid card = alignment theory which I know to be false, then you're the serial killer congratz(you're scum though).

Oh I misread what Hk said ignore me

 

[Enderfive]

What? There were 3 major lynch candidates yesterday so a smart cop wouldn't have necessarily gone after notty this point is terrible. Also how would a cop know that she would be a top lynch candidate today? Anything could have happened.

i was clearly talking about the next night

No reason?

no good reason

Did you read ANY of day 0?

yes

She has been acting extremely scummy in behaviour

no

in terms of how she's acting

she's acting like she usually acts

and how she's now trying to manipulate people such as yourself into voting me now inf's out of the picture

trust me, you're doing that yourself

even tho her reasons for voting me being "I kept switching between her and inf" is completely redundant because she did the exact same thing between inf and choco

i can see notty already replied to this

as she said, the situations aren't similar

the fact she refused to claim for so long even tho she was obviously going to get voted if she didn't

i mean, i can totally see why she didn't want to claim, because it has clearly only put her in greater jeopardy

the fact her claim is not too strong, has a way out (the part about not getting any results if she's focused or something like that icr)

reeee not an argument

how, based on inf flipping 3p with the role of "the hermit" which greatly backs the theory that roles and alignment match tarot cards. Highly suggests notty is not town.

i'm telling you, this theory does not hold water

The fact she's literally trying to turn people onto me even tho I'm proven to be justice by Hk

i'm pretty sure at the point you made that post the only one arguing against you substantially was me

and have been hard pushing against the 3 people who have been deemed most likely scum all through the game.

>people think someone is scummy therefore they're scum
>everyone who pushes against people who are deemed to be scummy is inno

The fact you're so desperately defending notty and trying to switch the blame onto me without any strong argument which is very out of character for you makes me feel you've either completely lost your touch at this game or you're in cahoots with notty (and you've also lost your touch at this game).

i mean you look pretty desperate yourself, bringing out the omgus arguments and whatnot

Eitherway you suck donkey dick ender

 

[Aqua]

i mean, i can totally see why she didn't want to claim, because it has clearly only put her in greater jeopardy

Yeah which was obviously going to happen and she knew it was going to happen.

reeee not an argument

I mean it is an argument. She couldn't claim cop or any visiting role because that could be easily debunked. Her role is niche enough not to be CC'd, it's pro town but not too OP that people might think she's over doing it.

Yes it is possible that is her role, which is unfortunate. HOWEVER, It is far more likely she has fabricated it. I mean it has nothing to do with the tarot card the tower unless you really stretch your imagination.

i'm telling you, this theory does not hold water

And I'm telling you it does. Any thematic mafia game that isn't Jivvi's where he pulled role names out of his arse will follow some form of a theme they did in mine, and they do in this. The only difference is that this setup is susceptible to mass claims, so the more logical conclusion IMO would be to add some role that benefits from massclaims which is what I believe claire and tiaaaaaan did. The fact Inf had the role the hermit and flipped 3p DOES support this so the fact you're not even remotely convinced and are passing it off as a complete fluke without any consideration is really stupid.

>people think someone is scummy therefore they're scum
>everyone who pushes against people who are deemed to be scummy is inno

I was one of the first, I easily pushed harder on inf than anyone other than possibly notty towards the end, but at the start I pushed harder. If I was mafia I'd want to keep inf alive as if he were a detrimental 3p the chances of him targeting a townie n1 would be much higher.

i mean you look pretty desperate yourself, bringing out the omgus arguments and whatnot

Not really I'm just surprised after day 0 that you can so boldly defend notty making yourself look like a mong in the process

 

[Aqua]

I tried resizing the img didn't work feelsbad

 

[Enderfive]

So yeah ALL CARDS ON THE TABLE DAY 0, WELCOME TO INF DOESN'T LIE OR DECEIVE THIS GAME FOR ONCE and noone will probs believe me but OH WELL WE'LL SEE HOW THIS GOES DOWN I GUESS

yeah i just started reading the whole thread again and i find this post incredibly amusing

 

[hipmeow]

im still waiting on enders card (unless im blind and hes already claimed)

 

[Mooglie]

why do people want ender to claim again
unless its death/devil i see no reason

 

[hipmeow]

why do people want ender to claim again
unless its death/devil i see no reason

i see 0 downside to him telling us the name of his card. plus if its a scum sounding card then his defending of notty is going to look dodgy

 

[Aqua]

Enderfive CLAIM. YOUR. CARD.

 

[Dess]

I'm on board with a notty lynch but I'll hold my vote off until I get home from work in about 4ish hours. I'll try to have a post then too

 

[Nottykitten]

i see 0 downside to him telling us the name of his card. plus if its a scum sounding card then his defending of notty is going to look dodgy

Why would him having a 'bad' card make him look dodgy? If anything it proves further that card != alignment.

 

[Mooglie]

Why would him having a 'bad' card make him look dodgy? If anything it proves further that card != alignment.

???????

 

[Danni122112]

???? how could u even know this. its not confirmed that there is always a cop in every maf game.

I just asked you to find an example

a cop in the game is likely enough that the argument can be taken seriously


a smart cop absolutely would investigate notty, since her being one of the top lynch candidates two days in a row shows that there is a strong voter base for her lynch, which means that confirming her as town would save us from an unnecessary lynch and confirming her as anti-town would make sure the lynch actually goes through, since right now it doesn't really seem that certain, with several people arguing for her (possible) innocence


one night is not enough time to form any conclusions on whether the role is useful or not

as for her card being supposedly dangerous, i disagree, as i don't think you can rely on what is essentially flavour to draw any remotely certain conclusions on the alignment of that role


i have a suggestion: lynch aqua

his tunneling of notty without good reason is scummy enough and i'm currently looking into him to see if there are any other reasons to consider him anti-town


but that doesn't change the fact that you are, indeed, tunneling notty

it's relevant because it prevents you from seeing reasonable explanations to all notty has claimed, namely, that she has been telling the truth


a) this is the case for every role that has been or will be claimed this game
b) see point a)
c) then why not make up an event this night? the inevitable bandwagon on her had to have been predictable without any results from the night, so she would be putting herself in unwanted limelight quite unnecessarily
d) this does not, in any way, make the claim false

can I marry you, someone with structured arguments who makes sense

 

[Aqua]

Why would him having a 'bad' card make him look dodgy? If anything it proves further that card != alignment.

I mean the only claimed dodgy card is being hard defended by another dodgy card... god what could it MEAN!?

 

[hipmeow]

Why would him having a 'bad' card make him look dodgy? If anything it proves further that card != alignment.

tower = sounds scummy. ender has been defending u constantly. if he also has a scummy sounding card then it would make sense that hes a maf defending another maf buddy

 

[hipmeow]

I just asked you to find an example

example of?

 

[Unusual_Dood]

So, last night Infected got killed and I find that quite confusing. He did say he each night learn a random role but only IF HE WASNT VISITIED. For the mafia team I cant see how it would be a good idea to kill him. They would most likely believe his claim as the chances for him being third party were quite low compared to all the town. They also could have thought that if they roleblocked or visited him in any other way, he wouldnt be able to prove himself and therefore get lynched next day. The same goes for a SK or similar third party role. If Infected was visited he could have gotten lynched pretty easily something a SK would be satisfied with. That is why I think Inffy might have been killed by a vigilante.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

I just asked you to find an example

If you want an example of a game without a cop, the most recent one was Infs game called Zuplar Invasion I believe