Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win
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Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
It's really up to you though, both lynches have sufficient support to go through so you don't have to hammer me just to hammer me because the Choco lynch is just as likely to happen. Pretty sure its 9/11 on me and 8/11 on Choco
fuck off
i said that a godfather role would work thematically with the emperor card as its game-flavour namesake. the emperor is literally associated with fathering, emphasising structure, exercising authority and regulating. my hermit comparison doesn't work as well in hindsight but my point still stands. you can't extrapolate alignment from a card name, because the card name could have a large number of roles that work with it thematically. What you can do is take a roleclaim and look at the claimed card and make an observation on how well the two actually correlate.
ok this is actually kinda killing me cause my suspicions are easier to discuss with than the people my current views align with, but here goes. i disagree here completely cause in every description i've read, the tower is the change. see:
going through sudden change (being in chaos), releasing (exploding, erupting in anger), falling down, having a revelation
The Tower is one of the only cards in the deck that has energy that always belongs in the moment. While most cards confine their energy to the position in which they land, The Tower is about the here and now no matter where it falls in the Tarot spread.
Disaster, upheaval, sudden change, revelation
When The Tower appears in a reading sudden change is coming and there is no way to avoid it. This change could be quite brutal, unexpected and destructive. Change is forced upon you now whether you want it or not, although like in the Death card, this change is often sought on a Subconscious or Universe level. i hadn't found this particular site before writing this post and the 'unavoidable' part kind of cements my point, at least fmpov. going back through the others i can see some references to the same thing now that i'm looking for it (eg 'outside your control')
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ok what the fuck lol
Aqua
Does anybody remember laughter?
ok jivvi but even if you disagree about alignment the tower's role could not be a town role especially something as non-canonical as I can tell when certain night actions occur.
that was a meme more than anything tbh but obviously i would just be doing what you normally do and reading the situation & making a judgement on how likely you are to be mafia after the events of the lynch/night
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
You could try and answer my question about how a massclaim(which you've said to support) would lower the amount of suspects(which you said it would). After all as an avid supporter of card = alignment I'd love to know what you think. And yes I get it I'm pushing on this massclaim bit too hard(even though I've never gotten an actual answer) but this is Mafia and when you have an opinion (such as supporting a massclaim) you should be willing to explain to us how and why.
Have you considered not voting me? It's a good diet.
But for example I still think that the cop has an innocent report on me right now and is just sitting here hoping I'm not being murdered. He has to wait till atleast tomorrow because simply claiming right now with 1 inno report is not really worth it. Why not give them the night(and giving me another night to get events) so they could claim my innocence tomorrow? I know you're scared of an arsonist but with 2 nightkills an arsonist should be extremely unlikely(I mean last game One blowing up 4 people was pretty unbalanced in my opinion).
[BCOLOR=transparent]Day 1 - Vote Count pls no bully[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Nottykitten (9): Ooglie101, Unusual_Dood, hipman500(x2), Jivvi, Dess, Aqua, Iggish, ChocoFox[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]ChocoFox (6): Roobarb Pie, erik5456, Danni122112, Nottykitten, Mulbery, Enderfive[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]With 21 players alive, it takes 11 players to lynch and 11 players to no lynch.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Nottykitten (9): Ooglie101, Unusual_Dood, hipman500(x2), Jivvi, Dess, Aqua, Iggish, ChocoFox[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]ChocoFox (6): Roobarb Pie, erik5456, Danni122112, Nottykitten, Mulbery, Enderfive[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]With 21 players alive, it takes 11 players to lynch and 11 players to no lynch.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.[/BCOLOR]
Ahhhhhhh, I'm tempted to give Notty the benefit of the benefit of the doubt.
Choco is acting pretty scummy and is not in my mind explaining himself adequately to get rid of suspicion.
Both are probably good lynch options, but as I don't want anyone to be rashly lynched yet while there is still discussion to be had,
unvote
Choco is acting pretty scummy and is not in my mind explaining himself adequately to get rid of suspicion.
Both are probably good lynch options, but as I don't want anyone to be rashly lynched yet while there is still discussion to be had,
unvote
Right, so who should I look into then? Everyone's calling for investigation of other players. I have a feeling that the death card is a serial killer so I feel that finding out who death is would be beneficial.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
What do you think about the current situation? Am I still the best lynch on your opinion or are you also a bit 50/50 on it? And if so why not consider keeping me alive to have to cop reveal their investigation tomorrow?
i don't like this assumption cause as i think somebody already mentioned (oog's diagram maybe? idk) that the cop likely would have avoided you, inf and probably aqua cause you would have been the most popular target choice and a cop would want to avoid being tracked/watched by a mafia role or having their result made useless by their target getting killed.
this is kind of disproving my own point but the kill count probably can't be considered fact tonight since smart vigilantes nk on the first night (having a day 0 sort of changes that rule but it still would have been quite a tossup) and there is also almost definitely at least one protective or blocking role, considering that those are two of the most fundamental role types. anywho, traditionally arsonists are 'balanced' by the fact that they don't sit in on mafia meetings so i think the idea is that they take out a few townies and likely a mafia. alternatively, in a game with a pretty high player count, a powerful killing role like the arsonist may be one way of balancing the game without having an absurdly large mafia team.
if this is how his role works that pretty much disproves 'bad cards = mafia', although tbf it was already a flawed idea.