Tavern Arcana - Mafia Win

[Iggish]

The only thing the role checker roles are useful for is checking if Ender really is the fool I think.

I think they already did that.

 

[Roobarb Pie]

The only thing the role checker roles are useful for is checking if Ender really is the fool I think.

Who do you think outed him?

Answer: me.

 

[Fog]

So Roobarb Pie if you are indeed a 3rd party player, what is your win condition?

 

[Roobarb Pie]

So Roobarb Pie if you are indeed a 3rd party player, what is your win condition?

Win condition: Survive.

Either way, so long as I don't get off'd in the night I should be able to win me first game of mafia :D

 

[Fog]

Win condition: Survive.

Either way, so long as I don't get off'd in the night I should be able to win me first game of mafia :D

I find it hard to believe that there would be 3 third party roles with the win condition of just survive. I mean I also have the win condition of if I role 4 different abilities throughout the game (im on 3/4) , and just surviving fits well with the role of the Hermit. So what aren't you telling us?

 

[Fog]

Either way, so long as I don't get off'd in the night I should be able to win me first game of mafia :D

This to me, also is rather suspicious that to me implies that you believe that there is only going to be one more night and if you survive that you win?How would you know how many more nights there were unless you had insight into how many players there are on both teams also what's to say that you won't get day killed?

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

I agree with Fog, Roob's role doesn't make any sense. Why would he have the ability to see someones rolename? It seems like he is trying to claim 3rd party to not be lynched tomorrow. Regardless we should lynch erik today.

 

[Roobarb Pie]

This to me, also is rather suspicious that to me implies that you believe that there is only going to be one more night and if you survive that you win?How would you know how many more nights there were unless you had insight into how many players there are on both teams also what's to say that you won't get day killed?

Well, I'm assuming that neither side wants to kill me as I can provide them a vote swing advantage. By in the night I meant any night, sorry for the vague statement. I've been awake far too long at this point and the testing rig is giving me a headache.

And lets be honest, I'm lower priority compared to the remaining scumlords when it comes to lynching. From a conservative guesstimate, seeing as we started with 23 players and someone said that typically 20-25% (correct me if I'm wrong) of players are mafia, we have at least two mafia members left. Death is one of them, still not sure who the other one is.

Anyway, I've got another two hours of testing, bbl.

 

[Roobarb Pie]

I agree with Fog, Roob's role doesn't make any sense. Why would he have the ability to see someones rolename?

That's because I'm not willing to tell you the second part of the survive condition until I know it's safe to reveal. I've made the continuous mistake of opening myself up to everyone, which I'm assuming is not the norm in this game. I realise now that there's one small detail I have to keep to myself until either A) The lose condition is triggered or B) I can confirm the lose condition is unlikely to be triggered.

And speaking of roles that make no sense, how about yours? Sure, the moon insinuates a night action, but if we're basing it off the tarot cards, the moon is seen as a card representing illusion and deception. Preventing your own death could, at a stretch, be associated with this description.

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

That's because I'm not willing to tell you the second part of the survive condition until I know it's safe to reveal. I've made the continuous mistake of opening myself up to everyone, which I'm assuming is not the norm in this game. I realise now that there's one small detail I have to keep to myself until either A) The lose condition is triggered or B) I can confirm the lose condition is unlikely to be triggered.

Sure, now that it is mentioned you reveal that you have a second survive condition. Do you not realise how suspicious this makes you look?

And speaking of roles that make no sense, how about yours? Sure, the moon insinuates a night action, but if we're basing it off the tarot cards, the moon is seen as a card representing illusion and deception. Preventing your own death could, at a stretch, be associated with this description.

My role almost like a vanilla townie, I'm guessing that Arelic and Jolt probably didn't want to have any vanilla townies in this game so they made my role.

 

[Iggish]

My role almost like a vanilla townie, I'm guessing that Arelic and Jolt probably didn't want to have any vanilla townies in this game so they made my role.

What did you claim again?

 

[Unusual_Dood]

So, on to the big post I was talking about. I have analysed a lot of stuff and found some interesting stuff.

First of all the role + tarot card table (now also with a new feature! - tarot card meaning:

[xtable=612x@]
{tbody}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Player{/td}

{td=136x@}
Role{/td}

{td=103x@}
Tarot card{/td}

{td=218x@}
Tarot card meaning{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
(dead){/td}

{td=85x@}
Inffy{/td}

{td=136x@}
Survivor{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Hermit{/td}

{td=218x@}
Soul-searching, introspection, being alone{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
HKCaper{/td}

{td=136x@}
Mayor variant{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Emperor{/td}

{td=218x@}
Authority, father-figure, solid foundation{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
ChocoFox{/td}

{td=136x@}
Doctor{/td}

{td=103x@}
The High Priestess{/td}

{td=218x@}
Intuition, higher powers, subconscious mind{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Aqua{/td}

{td=136x@}
(cop){/td}

{td=103x@}
The Justice{/td}

{td=218x@}
Justice, fairness, truth, cause and effect, law{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Nottykitten{/td}

{td=136x@}
Mafia blocker{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Tower{/td}

{td=218x@}
Disaster, upheaval, sudden change, revelation{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Jivvi{/td}

{td=136x@}
Serial Killer{/td}

{td=103x@}
Strength{/td}

{td=218x@}
Strength, courage, patience, control, compassion{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Geekenstein{/td}

{td=136x@}
Lover{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Lovers{/td}

{td=218x@}
Love, union, choices, values alignment, relationships{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Comp{/td}

{td=136x@}
Lover{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Lovers{/td}

{td=218x@}
Love, union, choices, values alignment, relationships{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Ooglie{/td}

{td=136x@}
(a PR){/td}

{td=103x@}
The Chariot{/td}

{td=218x@}
Control, will power, victory, determination{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Mul{/td}

{td=136x@}
Godfather{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Devil{/td}

{td=218x@}
Bondage, addiction, materialism, sexuality{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
hipman500{/td}

{td=136x@}
Backup Mayor{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Empress{/td}

{td=218x@}
Fertility, femininity, beauty, nature, abundance{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Runemen4{/td}

{td=136x@}
Town Blocker{/td}

{td=103x@}
Temperance / (Death){/td}

{td=218x@}
Balance, moderation, patience, purpose, meaning{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Player{/td}

{td=136x@}
Role{/td}

{td=103x@}
Tarot card{/td}

{td=218x@}
Tarot card meaning{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
(alive){/td}

{td=85x@}
Ender{/td}

{td=136x@}
Fool + hunter{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Fool{/td}

{td=218x@}
A free spirit, innocence, spontaneity, beginnings{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
One one two{/td}

{td=136x@}
May once gain lynch-immunity{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Sun{/td}

{td=218x@}
Fun, warmth, success, positivity, vitality{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Fog{/td}

{td=136x@}
Get a rnd. ability (can backfire)*{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Wheel of Fortune{/td}

{td=218x@}
karma, life cycles, destiny, a turning point{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Dess{/td}

{td=136x@}
Role Cop{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Magician{/td}

{td=218x@}
Power, skill, concentration, action, resourcefulness{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
myusername22{/td}

{td=136x@}
Watcher{/td}

{td=103x@}
The World{/td}

{td=218x@}
Completion, integration, accomplishment, travel{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Iggish{/td}

{td=136x@}
Messenger{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Star{/td}

{td=218x@}
Hope, spirituality, renewal, inspiration, serenity{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Roobarb Pie{/td}

{td=136x@}
Role Cop{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Jugdement{/td}

{td=218x@}
Judgement, rebirth, inner calling, absolution{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Danni122112{/td}

{td=136x@}
(unclaimed){/td}

{td=103x@}
The Hierophant{/td}

{td=218x@}
Religion, group identification, conformity, tradition{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Unusual_Dood{/td}

{td=136x@}
Self autovotes + hunter variant{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Hanged Man{/td}

{td=218x@}
Suspension, restriction, sacrifice, letting go{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
TheWeakGuy48_{/td}

{td=136x@}
May once self-protect{/td}

{td=103x@}
The Moon{/td}

{td=218x@}
Illusion, fear, anxiety, insecurity, subconscious{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=44x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
erik5456{/td}

{td=136x@}
Backup PR**{/td}

{td=103x@}
Temperance / (Death){/td}

{td=218x@}
Balance, moderation, patience, purpose, meaning{/td}

{td=27x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]
*Day 1: Lost vote, Night 3: Watcher **Day 1: Became Doc and learned previous actions by the doctor


Now, as you might see I have put Aqua as cop, Ooglie as town PR and Rune as town blocker.

Aqua is the cop
The reason I put Aqua as cop is that we so far have no cop claims. It is also very likely that there is a cop since Mulbery was godfather, and I highly doubt he got the role only to be immune to the abilty Fog may once get. In addition, Aquas tarot card fits perfectly well with being the cop, which is also probably the reason for why he got killed. His 1-shot vig claim didn't make any sense too, so it probably wasn't his real role.

The room closes in on Mulbery and puts them in a noose. The card that falls out of their hand is The Devil.
> Passive:
Alignment appears as town to any investigative roles

Rune and Ooglie are town
Now the reason I believe they are town, is simply because they were killed by what seems to be the mafia. Ooglie got counterclaimed by Mulbery, who later turned out to be mafia. Ooglie also claimed to a PR, and I find it unlikely that he would claim to be a PR as third party. The same thing is for Rune. Erik is basically proven mafia and Rune claimed a to be the town blocker, and his proven tarot card seems to be town sided.

I also made a action table of all the 4 nights, in an attempt at making it easier to see what exactly happened when.

Night 1:
[xtable=576x@]
{tbody}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
According to{/td}

{td=83x@}
Dess{/td}

{td=74x@}
Roob{/td}

{td=74x@}
Erik{/td}

{td=71x@}
Rune{/td}

{td=59x@}
{/td}

{td=56x@}
Iggish{/td}

{td=74x@}
Myuser{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
<role> (<player>){/td}

{td=83x@}
Role cop (dess){/td}

{td=74x@}
Role cop (roob){/td}

{td=74x@}
Doctor (choco){/td}

{td=71x@}
Role blocker (rune){/td}

{td=59x@}
SK and Mafia{/td}

{td=56x@}
Messenger (Iggish){/td}

{td=74x@}
Watcher (myuser){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
Targets{/td}

{td=83x@}
---------{/td}

{td=74x@}
------- {/td}

{td=74x@}
-------- {/td}

{td=71x@}
-------- {/td}

{td=59x@}
------ {/td}

{td=56x@}
----------- {/td}

{td=74x@}
---------- {/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
ChocoFox{/td}

{td=83x@}
The High Priestest{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
x{/td}

{td=71x@}
{/td}

{td=59x@}
{/td}

{td=56x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
Geekenstein{/td}

{td=83x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
The Lovers{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=71x@}
{/td}

{td=59x@}
{/td}

{td=56x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
HKCaper{/td}

{td=83x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=71x@}
{/td}

{td=59x@}
x{/td}

{td=56x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
Infected_alien8_{/td}

{td=83x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=71x@}
{/td}

{td=59x@}
x{/td}

{td=56x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
Comp{/td}

{td=83x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=71x@}
{/td}

{td=59x@}
{/td}

{td=56x@}
x{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=84x@}
Nottykitten{/td}

{td=83x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
{/td}

{td=71x@}
{/td}

{td=59x@}
{/td}

{td=56x@}
{/td}

{td=74x@}
was not visited{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

Night 2:
[xtable=576x@]
{tbody}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
According to{/td}

{td=47x@}
Dess{/td}

{td=47x@}
Roob{/td}

{td=47x@}
Erik{/td}

{td=85x@}
Fog{/td}

{td=66x@}
Rune{/td}

{td=57x@}
Iggish{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
Myuser{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
<role> (<player>){/td}

{td=47x@}
Role cop (dess){/td}

{td=47x@}
Role cop (roob){/td}

{td=47x@}
Doctor (choco){/td}

{td=85x@}
Alignment Cop (fog){/td}

{td=66x@}
Role blocker (rune){/td}

{td=57x@}
Messenger (Iggish){/td}

{td=28x@}
SK{/td}

{td=47x@}
Mafia{/td}

{td=76x@}
Watcher (myuser){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Targets{/td}

{td=47x@}
-------{/td}

{td=47x@}
-------{/td}

{td=47x@}
--------{/td}

{td=85x@}
-----------{/td}

{td=66x@}
--------{/td}

{td=57x@}
-----------{/td}

{td=28x@}
---{/td}

{td=47x@}
-----{/td}

{td=76x@}
----------{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Enderfive{/td}

{td=47x@}
The Fool{/td}

{td=47x@}
The Fool{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Roobarb Pie{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
x{/td}

{td=85x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
?{/td}

{td=47x@}
?{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
hipman500{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Town{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
x{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Danni122112{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
was not visited{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

I also want to add this before anything happens, and it is that we don't actually know that Ender is a fool,he could be mafia pretending to be fool. Honestly either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow (overtomorrow? honestly suprised that's not a word in english), we should lynch ender, and if it turns out he is a fool and a hunter he can shoot whoever he wants(hopefully mafia) or if he turns out to be mafia it's still a win.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

Night 3:
[xtable=576x@]
{tbody}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
According to{/td}

{td=47x@}
Dess{/td}

{td=57x@}
Roob{/td}

{td=47x@}
Erik{/td}

{td=85x@}
Fog{/td}

{td=66x@}
Rune{/td}

{td=57x@}
Iggish{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=38x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
Myuser{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
<role> (<player>){/td}

{td=47x@}
Role cop (dess){/td}

{td=57x@}
Role cop (roob){/td}

{td=47x@}
Doctor (choco){/td}

{td=85x@}
Watcher + tracker (fog){/td}

{td=66x@}
Role blocker (rune){/td}

{td=57x@}
Messenger (Iggish){/td}

{td=28x@}
SK{/td}

{td=38x@}
Mafia{/td}

{td=76x@}
Watcher (myuser){/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Targets{/td}

{td=47x@}
-------{/td}

{td=57x@}
------------{/td}

{td=47x@}
--------{/td}

{td=85x@}
---------{/td}

{td=66x@}
--------{/td}

{td=57x@}
-----------{/td}

{td=28x@}
---{/td}

{td=38x@}
-----{/td}

{td=76x@}
----------{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Roobarb Pie{/td}

{td=47x@}
Death{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Oog visited Rune{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=38x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Ooglie101{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
Judgement{/td}

{td=47x@}
x{/td}

{td=85x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=38x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
erik5456{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
erik visited Oog{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=38x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Roobarb Pie{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
Roob visited Oog{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=38x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Runemen4{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
x{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=38x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Jivvi{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
x{/td}

{td=38x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Geek or Comp{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=38x@}
x{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
Danni122112{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=47x@}
{/td}

{td=85x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=28x@}
{/td}

{td=38x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
was not visited{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

Night 4:
[xtable=576x@]
{tbody}
{tr=@x13}
{td=76x13}
According to{/td}

{td=66x13}
Dess{/td}

{td=66x13}
Roob{/td}

{td=57x13}
Erik{/td}

{td=76x13}
Rune{/td}

{td=76x13}
Iggish{/td}

{td=66x13}
{/td}

{td=94x13}
Myuser{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=76x40}
<role> (<player>){/td}

{td=66x40}
Role cop (dess){/td}

{td=66x40}
Role cop (roob){/td}

{td=57x40}
Doctor (choco){/td}

{td=76x40}
Role blocker (rune){/td}

{td=76x40}
Messenger (Iggish){/td}

{td=66x40}
Mafia{/td}

{td=94x40}
Watcher (myuser){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x26}
{td=76x26}
Targets{/td}

{td=66x26}
-------------{/td}

{td=66x26}
-------------{/td}

{td=57x26}
--------{/td}

{td=76x26}
--------{/td}

{td=76x26}
-----------{/td}

{td=66x26}
-----{/td}

{td=94x26}
----------{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x13}
{td=76x13}
Runemen4{/td}

{td=66x13}
Temperance{/td}

{td=66x13}
Temperance{/td}

{td=57x13}
{/td}

{td=76x13}
{/td}

{td=76x13}
{/td}

{td=66x13}
{/td}

{td=94x13}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x13}
{td=76x13}
Hipman500{/td}

{td=66x13}
{/td}

{td=66x13}
{/td}

{td=57x13}
{/td}

{td=76x13}
{/td}

{td=76x13}
{/td}

{td=66x13}
x{/td}

{td=94x13}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x13}
{td=76x13}
myusernam22{/td}

{td=66x13}
{/td}

{td=66x13}
{/td}

{td=57x13}
{/td}

{td=76x13}
{/td}

{td=76x13}
x{/td}

{td=66x13}
{/td}

{td=94x13}
{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=76x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=57x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}

{td=76x@}
{/td}

{td=66x@}
{/td}

{td=94x@}
(hasnt said yet){/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]

What is interesting is that Roobarb Pie got Ooglie as Death and not Chariot when he visited him night 3. The only simple explanations I can find for this is that either Roobarb is mafia and tried to get mooglie lynched or there was a Bus Driver that switched Ooglie with whoever was Death. Fog also said Erik visited Ooglie (something he confirmed) which makes me suspicious of that erik is a bus driver.

Another interesting thing was that there in night 2 was no kills. Looking at the table there should be no reason that the mafias and Jivvi wouldn't be able to kill people, unless Erik in fact is the doctor and saved him from both attacks. Rune didn't block, and Doctor was already dead. The only thing I could thing of is that there was a hidden mechanic when Choco died which protected more people. Notty said this:

So last days lynch ended in a slight disaster but luckily our night seems to be blessed by choco's surprising unfortunate death so all's good. After the death of the high priestess I got told all even cards would be blessed tonight as the high priestess ascends. Didn't know what this means but since theres no deaths I guess that means we were all protected. I also got 2 events at the end of the night, keep in mind im paraphrasing what was said but it's practically the same.

Something like this could have happened, but I do find it unlikely. Another thing I could think of is that mafia lost their kill in benefit for something else. Maybe they got day kills, since I believe this started just after the silent night. However, that wouldn't explain why the Serial Killer didn't kill anyone. I also haven't checked if what Roob said about people saying a word before dying is matching up but that could be the case. However, I think the word was spoken in at least the first day, but maybe this got activated later.
A last option is that there is someone who hasn't outed their true ability, that stopped Serial Killers and mafias kill.



I also remembered something from day 2, before Notty got lynched.

Second being that the empress stole the moons voice.

At the time being, we didn't know that TWG was the moon, but it seemed like Notty wasn't actually lying (she posted quite a lot about how this would prove her) and that the moon in fact was blocked. Now, we won't know that for sure since Weak never spoke in day 2, but this might be the reason why Arelic forgot Weaks vote last day. If weak was blocked she probably forgot it was a new day.

[BCOLOR=transparent]Day 3 - Vote Count in which Danni forgot he's already voting for Ender so he votes him again[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Enderfive (2): Enderfive, Danni122112[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Mulbery (3): hipman500(x2), Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Runemen4 (1): erik5456[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]erik5456 (3): Fog, Runemen4, Dess[/BCOLOR]

[BCOLOR=transparent]With 14 players alive, it takes 8 players to lynch and 7 players to no lynch.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.[/BCOLOR]

[BCOLOR=transparent]Day 3 - Vote Count (why do i have eyes if im blind)[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Unusual_Dood (1): Unusual_Dood[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Enderfive (2): Enderfive, Danni122112[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Mulbery (4): hipman500(x2), Unusual_Dood, TheWeakGuy48_[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]Runemen4 (1): erik5456[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]erik5456 (3): Fog, Runemen4, Dess[/BCOLOR]

[BCOLOR=transparent]With 14 players alive, it takes 8 players to lynch and 7 players to no lynch.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=transparent]If the required vote amount is not reached by the deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.[/BCOLOR]

Now the interesting thing with this is that Fog lost his vote day 1, and this made suspicious of a vote blocker being in the game (assumably mafia) so I tried to figure out if someone was blocked today, and Fog said that he had blocked Eriks vote

I also have a theory that someone here might have lost their vote, so can everyone check that their vote works before the day ends

Also I believe I have blocked Erik's Vote <3

That's why I think there might be a vote blocker in the game.There not being anyone we saw who had their vote blocked in day 3 could be explained by that either myuser, mulb, geek, comp, jivvi, iggish or roob was vote, but never voted (or was dead), or that the mafias chose to not use the ability/was blocked. If there is a vote blocker I think that it would have to be Fog as he claimed to have caused the votes. I am not saying I believe Fog is mafia yet, but I think it is important that Fog gets to prove himself. His abilities hasn't really proved him yet since he said Hip was town after he died, and unless Erik isn't mafia he would know/faked (and erik went along with it) that Erik visited Ooglie, that Roob visited Ooglie and could have faked who Oog visited. This could also mean that town has 1 less vote than we think, that mafias might use to create a majority for a lynch.

That was all for now. I haven't been analysing too much of what Roob / Fog have been saying recently but it is very interesting that they both claim to be third party, with the same win condition.

 

[Unusual_Dood]

There not being anyone we saw who had their vote blocked in day 3 could be explained by that either myuser, mulb, geek, comp, jivvi, iggish or roob was vote

had their vote blocked*

 

[Unusual_Dood]

The tables looked much better when I was posting them :'(

 

[Danni122112]

Btw Danni122112 I think maybe Ooglie was cop since he claimed he was an important PR and nobody has claimed cop yet.

Wait fuck are you srs

 

[Danni122112]

I'm going to be blunt with you guys now. I'm third party, I never stated that I was a townie. I originally thought that the aim of the townies was to eliminate ALL non-townie folk, so I just played along. Sorry for not being fully open with you lot before, I didn't understand the rules of this game and was scared of being lynched early game.

I have more than reason to believe that Dess is the townie cop. Considering that's two of three alignments with cops, it wouldn't surprise me if someone in play is a mafia role cop, seeing as mul and notty's card reveals said nothing about identity discovery IIRC.

What is your win condition?

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

Wait fuck are you srs

Yes?

 

[Danni122112]

What is your win condition?

wait there was another page sorry

ALSO THATS A LOT OF TEXT

 

[Danni122112]

Good posts Unu, is there anything specific you want from them, I see you mentioned that Erik might be our doc, what’s your stance on lynching him?

 

[Roobarb Pie]

What is your win condition?

Seeing as you and weakguy are awful persistent on finding out my full win condition, I shall provide one more clue.

Not only must I survive, but at least one of two players must be alive at the end of the game. One of them has already been killed. Hopefully you'll understand why I want to keep my win condition withheld.

 

[Danni122112]

Seeing as you and weakguy are awful persistent on finding out my full win condition, I shall provide one more clue.

Not only must I survive, but at least one of two players must be alive at the end of the game. One of them has already been killed. Hopefully you'll understand why I want to keep my win condition withheld.

I really don’t mind third party’s not saying all of their win condition, if they are honest about their role, we can figure it out later for all I care, mafia is nr 1 prio, and if third party’s is working with town that’s ok by me

 

[Fog]

I also want to add this before anything happens, and it is that we don't actually know that Ender is a fool,he could be mafia pretending to be fool. Honestly either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow (overtomorrow? honestly suprised that's not a word in english), we should lynch ender, and if it turns out he is a fool and a hunter he can shoot whoever he wants(hopefully mafia) or if he turns out to be mafia it's still a win.

Overmorrow is a word which if i remember correctly was used by our very own Nottykitten in a previous game or it might have been in discord... IDK but she is a fountain of knowledge and wisdom

 

[Fog]

Seeing as you and weakguy are awful persistent on finding out my full win condition, I shall provide one more clue.

Not only must I survive, but at least one of two players must be alive at the end of the game. One of them has already been killed. Hopefully you'll understand why I want to keep my win condition withheld.

If i had to guess I would say, The Hermit and The Star are linked to you IF you are telling the truth