The Doomed Cruise - Game [OVER AND OUT ]

[GmK]

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After all the sun the night was supposed to be clear - alas, a bad fog had crept up on the ship. Enough fog to hide all the things that were going on, and oh boy, they were...​

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Nobody dared to check the next morning of what had happened, but there was no way to avoid any of it anyhow...​

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End of Night 4​

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HypeBurst - Passenger Tracker - was killed​

Balloon98 - Passenger Cop - was killed​

kraby1 - Passenger - was killed​

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Start of Day 4​

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With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch and 9 to nolynch.​

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MafiaPlayer​

 

[Prizyms]

I watched balloon98 and he was visited by One one two. He did not die - OOT, why did you visit him?

 

[Prizyms]

He did not die

To clarify: the above states One one two didn't die, not balloon.

He was the only visitor and it just so happened that balloon died. I'm really close to just putting a straight vote on you but I want your reasoning first.

 

[77thShad]

We lost 2/3 of our 'investigation roles'? :/ I am actually really surprised at this. I am thinking that we don't have a doctor or the doctor made a dreadful mistake or he protected prizyms. What priz found could lead us to find 112 to be guilty however an explanation from him is what I would like before I think about voting.

(Sent from Phone)

 

[One one two]

I watched balloon98 and he was visited by One one two. He did not die - OOT, why did you visit him?

I did visit him, but I certainly didn't kill him. Rather, I attempted to save him. I'm not sure as to how exactly my save was bypassed (special role avoids Watcher's detection? I was roleblocked?), all I know is that it was.

Surely there were multiple people visiting Balloon last night. Why single my name out?

 

[One one two]

I'd like to add that I find it funny how Prizyms was the only supposed investigative role left alive. Nothing concrete, of course, but something to keep in mind.

 

[Defiant_Blob]

I'd like to add that I find it funny how Prizyms was the only supposed investigative role left alive. Nothing concrete, of course, but something to keep in mind.

((Claim your role. Role Title and Description. At the moment you are supremely suspicious, as you have admitted visiting Balloon98. This means that Prizyms would have had to track you if he was Mafia or watched Balloon98.

My theory for the tons of kills, by the way, is the inclusion of a role which kills all other roles that visit the player the role visits.))

 

[Omar_Sales]

Why is priz so sure that OOT was the only visitor?

 

[Defiant_Blob]

Why is priz so sure that OOT was the only visitor?

((Watcher usually shows all roles visiting. Though, a special role may have been added that avoids detection.
However OOT says they tried to "save" Balloon98. I want OOT to claim so I can understand why they didn't actually save.
If One one two doesn't claim in their next post, I'll be voting them.))

 

[One one two]

Just a standard Doctor role. I can submit one name to save each round.

 

[Defiant_Blob]

((If both OOT and Prizyms are innocent, then that could mean a combination of a couple of different things:
OOT was role-blocked.
There is a role that avoid detection.
There is a role that can bypass doctor save.
If OOT is innocent and Prizyms is guilty, then that means the Mafia was somehow informed that OOT was visiting Balloon98, which is how Prizyms was able to accuse OOT.
If Prizyms is innocent and OOT is guilty, there are no extraordinary circumstances.))

 

[Alisha]

One one two, can you protect yourself from attacks?

 

[One one two]

One one two, can you protect yourself from attacks?

I only get one save to use on myself throughout the entire game, but I still have it.

 

[Defiant_Blob]

((Also there is a chance both of them are guilty.))

 

[Jivvi]

I vote we kill everyone
Better safe than sorry
;3

 

[Ansoro2112]

VRISKA: Oh, 8ut myusername22, how sorely misled you are!
VRISKA: To 8elieve that cooliorules is innocent just 8ecause they were your friend 8efore you 8oarded this ship is a truly fallacious assumption!
VRISKA: This gold is worth all of our lives and more. Cooliorules may happily kill you if it means she can have at least half of the gold.
VRISKA: In faaaaaaaact, I'm somewhat tempted to take some myself. >:::::::: )
VRISKA: Don't 8e so dramatic so soon though, cooliorules. The only one voting for you is still only myself. Though, if things go well, I will soon 8e followed 8y many others!

I do not think Defiant is guilty. I say it's his playing style. It's a little like JKangaroo's style, I partnered him last Season and like Defiant he tends to make things very direct which at times could potentially make him appear like an anti-town when in fact he is a townie. Different people have different styles of posting. It is unwise to judge like that. The most blatantly suspicious people, from my experience, are often those who are innocent. They have nothing to fear and they usually go all out.

Defiant: Others have said that this is his style and I'm willing to believe them for now. As I already said, he probably threw in that vote simply to see the reaction. And about his character being suspicious... No. It's just a character, we shouldn't judge anyone by that..

I noticed this in page 5 and 6. People were starting to blame Defiant. And both Grim and Ender were kind of defending him. Two Mafia members trying to cover him up.

I also noticed how Defiant never voted for Endersteve and Grim. He either didn't voted or voted for someone else. I just found all of this very weird.

 

[Omar_Sales]

VRISKA: Oh, 8ut myusername22, how sorely misled you are!
VRISKA: To 8elieve that cooliorules is innocent just 8ecause they were your friend 8efore you 8oarded this ship is a truly fallacious assumption!
VRISKA: This gold is worth all of our lives and more. Cooliorules may happily kill you if it means she can have at least half of the gold.
VRISKA: In faaaaaaaact, I'm somewhat tempted to take some myself. >:::::::: )
VRISKA: Don't 8e so dramatic so soon though, cooliorules. The only one voting for you is still only myself. Though, if things go well, I will soon 8e followed 8y many others!

I do not think Defiant is guilty. I say it's his playing style. It's a little like JKangaroo's style, I partnered him last Season and like Defiant he tends to make things very direct which at times could potentially make him appear like an anti-town when in fact he is a townie. Different people have different styles of posting. It is unwise to judge like that. The most blatantly suspicious people, from my experience, are often those who are innocent. They have nothing to fear and they usually go all out.

Defiant: Others have said that this is his style and I'm willing to believe them for now. As I already said, he probably threw in that vote simply to see the reaction. And about his character being suspicious... No. It's just a character, we shouldn't judge anyone by that..

I noticed this in page 5 and 6. People were starting to blame Defiant. And both Grim and Ender were kind of defending him. Two Mafia members trying to cover him up.

I also noticed how Defiant never voted for Endersteve and Grim. He either didn't voted or voted for someone else. I just found all of this very weird.

VRISKA: If there is a Cult in-game, I'd highly suggest we not disregard them!
VRISKA: Especially since they can catch us completely off-guard and win the game.
VRISKA: I would not 8e surprised if there were a Cult, seeing as we have 30 people.

VRISKA: 8efore I do anything, I want 8alloon98 to explain the exact name of their role, as well as the exact description.
VRISKA: I find it hard to 8elieve him until he has provided specifics.
VRISKA: Grimmjowforever is an easy target for someone to kill off quickly, with the current suspicions 8eing thrown around.

VRISKA: Grimmjowforever's specifics of his role has made it easier to 8elieve him over 8alloon98.

VRISKA: Unfortun8ly, with his reveal, he has made himself a target for 8oth the Mafia and Cult, who may outnum8er him!
VRISKA: Until 8alloon98 provides my specifics, I
Vote Balloon98

There, even after most people were already voting for grim he insisted on voting for balloon? This seems to me like he was trying to save grim.

 

[Defiant_Blob]

((I mean, I only did provide my argument and all.
I figured too many people were bandwagoning on the vote and grew suspicious, especially since balloon98 never really claimed that well.

Grimm had actually provided a role name and description.

I wouldn't make such a petty attempt at defending Grimm if I was mafia.
I'd be less obvious and fight a lot harder, as the Roleblocker is a highly useful role for the Mafia.

But if we're going to start voting people for having a differing opinion...))

 

[Defiant_Blob]

((Ansoro, people have always been accusing me of being suspicious. Several people ranging from Sploorky to Alpha to Grimm have defended different aspects of my actions. Just because I didn't vote either of them doesn't mean I'm buddying them.
I haven't voted you, does that mean I side with you and must be whatever team you are?

Omar, you're saying I'm suspicious because I didn't go with the flow.
Essentially, encouraging bandwagons.
I've said enough on that.))

 

[Prizyms]

Why is priz so sure that OOT was the only visitor?

That's what my PM back from GmK stated.

 

[Prizyms]

Just a standard Doctor role. I can submit one name to save each round.

Ok, had a think - this might be possible. I think there may be a Poisoner in this game who poisoned balloon the night before, and therefore died from a delayed kill without a visit this night. I'm not sure as to whether a dedicated Poison Doctor exists or not in this game or if regular Doctors can save the poisoned, but from EpicMafia experience a standard Doctor can save the poisoned. GmK if you are able to, could you clarify if this is the case? But in this case, how would they have known that balloon turned out to be cop? Well, there is a possibility of a Stalker in this game, who stalked balloon 3 nights ago, got his role, and told the mafia 2 nights ago. Balloon was then probably poisoned in an attempt to try and drive HypeBurst & I's cross checking plan downhill as there would not have been a visit the night he died. This does not clear One one two from the list of suspects. For all we know, this may not have been the case at all and he could have just performed a straight Mafia kill.

 

[K1ngHoward]

Lots of information to sift through today.
>>>>First off it seems the idea of a retaliation ability for the mafia after the death of one of their comrades seems to be true, but we have an extra death if there is only 2 mafia left. This could point to there being 3 mafia members left though that would conflict with the 4 deaths (one by Nottykitten) on night 2.
>>>>Second we now know the person who killed Mariosatr on Night 1 and blocked his role (Grimmjowforever [Roleblocker Mafia]). Though he blocked the role of Mariosatr on Night 1, why didn't he do so for nights 2 and 3? Could Grimmjowforever have sat out on a kill on Night 2 [4 people killed] to draw us away from the total amount of players or us to know there is a constant roleblocking ability in the mafia? I now think that there may actually be 3 mafia left for us to root out. The total amount of deaths from Night 4 and if Grimm sat out night 2 we could conclude that there is 3 left and it is very scary to think of the mafia now having a 1/6 majority if there be only 3 left at this moment.
>>>>@Prizyms The possibility of there being a Poisoner in this game is actually pretty high considering when Nitasu987 [Passenger Bodyguard] died Night 2 he "sucked the poison out of the person he was assigned to protect" as stated by Gmk's post on the start of Day 3 [page 21]. Gmk did say though that his descriptions of the events unfolding for the night were just more fluff story than anything substantial to the game, we can't let this possibility escape the idea table.

On the Chopping Block:

• Defiant_Blob
  • Protected? by both Mafia members
  • Suspicious since Day 0
  • Roleplay is aggressive.
  • Voted for Balloon98 Day 3. Now Balloon98 is dead.
• One One Two
  • Last to visit Balloon98 before his death. Claims Doctor (rocky slope)
• 77_is_the_best
  • Started the Kraby1 bandwagon Day 3. (insubstantial, just brought up for pointers)
• Priyzms
  • Questioned about his own role claim on Day 3.
  • Only "cop" left alive from the slaughter.
  • He did bring up more substantial proof to prove he is a "cop" (OOT visiting Balloon98 Night 4)

>>>>Now, i am really scared i mean truly scared of Defiant_Blob. I mean we have been avoiding him for 4 days now continuously saying "It isn't him" "that is just his playstyle", and this may be true, but we have been saying that for every. single. day. If that doesn't raise flags alone something is wrong. I keep throwing it to the back of my mind to those "ideas" that it is just his "style" to play this way or "act" another way it just feels like the aim keeps going back towards Defiant. His aggressive playstyle, his in-activity (compared to previous days) on Day 3, him voting for Balloon98 who just happens to be dead today, and him not voting for the other two mafia members (this point is very very weak). I like the ideas he brings up and his logic behind his posts don't have any flaws that i can argue, but just something in the back of my mind keeps nagging me that Defiant could be mafia.
Still look into the One One Two case though.

 

[K1ngHoward]

I curse thee tags for not working!
Prizyms

 

[Shinyshark]

Gee, all these murders are going to kill me one day.

 

[Vatumok]

If a passenger roleblocker blocked 112 last night could he please claim? Because right now I find it very suspicious, right after the/a mafia roleblocker dies he tries to save someone but it doesn't work.