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[Infected_alien8_]

This is a faulty argument, arguably you three + Notty probably knew Aqua best, and we both know how that ended.

except not all three of us were convinced of aqua's scumness, hip town-read him, I lowkey town-read him until he was nearly lynched and then his claim made me think he was lying. the difference is here, we're all completely convinced notty is scum. sure, we could be wrong, but I just wanted to put it out there in case it changed anyone's minds

She claimed she could only douse someone once, so she can't select me now.

nope, she said she can change the douse as many times as she likes, so she will douse you next, and then ignite you, and that's not me saying that to manipulate you, she already said it herself:

you'll prime TWG and everyone will let you live to ignite him

And how is this bad exactly? You yourself seemed 100% dead on convinced Weak is scum wouldn't you want to see him go up in flames if this did so happen even after your death? Or maybe you don't believe Weak is scum because you infact are

4) she ignited TWG and he's mafia

Rejoice for I have brought salvation.

also it says here she can change the douse:

Prime
Visit one player. That player is now considered to doused in gasoline. Primed targets can be changed but require use of an additional night action.

Sure, except nobody can actually be proven town. Not me, not you, not notty. We shouldn't lynch based on the argument that they can't ever be proven town - I believe I have already covered this in an earlier post.

no, but the whole reason many people are wanting to give her a chance is because they thought she could be proven by matty, but that's a flawed argument, so I'm pointing that out.

Honestly for me it feels like an 80% chance that Inffy is mafia. Notty is about 70%, but the main reason for letting Notty live is that she'll either kill or prove Omni. (Although I'd rather lynch someone else, like Roob)

she's not gonna kill or prove omni. even if omni is proven to be immune to the attack (and he wouldn't lie about it anyway so we don't need proof), that doesn't prove his alignment. but she won't use it on omni since it's supposedly a 1-shot thing, so she'll douse you instead, and then get everyone to let her live until she ignites you the next night to prove herself

 

[Omni]

not lynching inffy at this point is just an insult to not only ypurself but the town aswell - just how little confidence can you have on notty being lynched tomorrow? She has nothing to fight back with

 

[Infected_alien8_]

not lynching inffy at this point is just an insult to not only ypurself but the town aswell - just how little confidence can you have on notty being lynched tomorrow? She has nothing to fight back with

why would people lynch her tomorrow when she'll have the exact same reason to be kept alive as she did today, and people are buying into that?

she can't kill you now, so to 'prove her worth' she'll douse TWG and do the exact same thing she did with you today, with him

there's no reason it will be any different

 

[Omni]

it'll be different because you're not there distorting the process with your nonsense, much easier to get the point through

 

[Infected_alien8_]

it'll be different because you're not there distorting the process with your nonsense, much easier to get the point through

I'm one of the leading forces of lynching her, if anything it's going to be a lot harder if I'm dead

you weren't there for tavarn arcana so I guess it makes sense you don't believe me but if I die, you'll see what I mean

 

[Omni]

so, i already have a huge pet peeve in mafia; people referring to past games

 

[Infected_alien8_]

so, i already have a huge pet peeve in mafia; people referring to past games

okay, even without the past experience of tavarn arcana then, lynching her tomorrow is going to be the same scenario as today most likely

she'll have doused a common suspect, she'll repeat she's uncc many times, tell people she'll ignite TWG if she's let to live and prove her worth - those people who agreed to that today will also agree to it tomorrow, because why wouldn't they? what would have changed? nothing, the exact same arguments will happen

 

[hipmeow]

not lynching inffy at this point is just an insult to not only ypurself but the town aswell - just how little confidence can you have on notty being lynched tomorrow? She has nothing to fight back with

this is the sort of stuff you were doing during the aqua lynch and we all know how that went

 

[Comp]

Ill be real here I dont honestly care either way who gets lynched and I wouldnt be surprised if neither were town. Though one reason not to vote inf is he keeps games alive...

That said, at the moment inf is really coming off as a lot scummier just with how he's posting. Unfortunately we pretty much have to go on vibes at this point though and I'm notoriously bad at that so Im probably gonna hold off voting until as late as possible.

 

[hipmeow]

Unfortunately we pretty much have to go on vibes at this point though and I'm notoriously bad at that so Im probably gonna hold off voting until as late as possible.

this is pretty much my point. we litterally only have vibes as a reason to lynch inffy but notty we have actual reasons to lynch her, sure she can just say "matty will prove me" but we have no way of being sure matty will even survive the night. also everyone seems to be saying matty has power inspection and id like to ask has he told us what he got night 1.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

That said, at the moment inf is really coming off as a lot scummier just with how he's posting. Unfortunately we pretty much have to go on vibes at this point though and I'm notoriously bad at that so Im probably gonna hold off voting until as late as possible.

to be honest I felt the same way so I don't think your vibes were even off at all over the last couple pages

trust yourself more comp!!

(unless your vibes are telling you to lynch me of course)

although I will point out, it doesn't have to come down to vibes, you can take our role claims and decide which is more believable

in my eyes, the only purpose for prime/ignite is for the user to be able to kill more than one person, so it's pointless giving it to a 1-shot vigilante, which is one thing that screams fake (behaviour of notty aside)

you can also poke holes in my claim too, like 'jail = law!' even though I personally would say that's silly since we had a corrupt cop, clearly flavour means we can have 'law' sounding roles as a cult

the one thing against me that I agree with is my role is slightly OP but like you said earlier, for all we know mafia are OP in return

 

[Infected_alien8_]

also everyone seems to be saying matty has power inspection and id like to ask has he told us what he got night 1.

matty said he got me as 'jail' last night, and it was before I claimed

but yeah I agree, if mafia are smart they'll kill or roleblock matty tonight to keep our focus on notty instead of them, so relying on matty is a bad idea

 

[Omni]

this is pretty much my point. we litterally only have vibes as a reason to lynch inffy but notty we have actual reasons to lynch her, sure she can just say "matty will prove me" but we have no way of being sure matty will even survive the night. also everyone seems to be saying matty has power inspection and id like to ask has he told us what he got night 1.

u r litterally mafia

 

[Infected_alien8_]

also I'm gonna take a break for a bit because I'm starting to get myself panicked/worked up and I can feel myself coming off as scummy/manipulative because of that so it's probably a good idea to chill out for a bit, I feel like I've mostly made my point anyway

 

[Omni]

this is the sort of stuff you were doing during the aqua lynch and we all know how that went

but then it'd also mean lynching inffy? why is a 80+% mafia not a better option than a temporarily harmless 3rd party? inffy is acting like worst of the worst scum but that's just vibes amirite

 

[hipmeow]

why is a 80+% mafia not a better option

mind telling me where this 80 percent is coming from

 

[Omni]

mind telling me where this 80 percent is coming from

his scum behaviour and decaposts, each decapost added a % and here we are

 

[Nottykitten]

no, but the whole reason many people are wanting to give her a chance is because they thought she could be proven by matty, but that's a flawed argument, so I'm pointing that out.

Eh, if Omni says he can't die tonight to Notty, no reason to risk her being an aggressive 3rd party
Vote Notty
But I would like you to claim your attribute/power that will prevent that please Omni

But Matty you could attempt to clear my name tonight by inspecting me. I know Inf is shouting doom scenarios where you die during the night because he claims it's Mafias biggest priority to kill you tonight but he's conveniently ignoring that the threat of a watcher watching you is a big dealbreaker to attempting to kill you tonight. Yes we have 0 idea if a watcher actually exists but the fact that it can should scare the Mafia away from killing you, and if it doesn't we'll potentially have an easy lynch tomorrow.

You're not risking me being an aggressive third party because you could prove me tonight. Just about every single other person you could use your action on could still be town or mafia (like with Infs Jailing) but on me it's almost the equivalent of an alignment inspect because it would prove me non-third party and pretty sure also non-law.

Omni Will you know if I actually attempted a lethal kill against you because then you could tell people if I actually used ignite on you last night.

Also glad Omni/Claire are calling Inf's posts out for what they are, manipulation at best

 

[Nottykitten]

1) all three of me, moog and hip, are convinced she's scum - I'm pretty sure we're the three people closest to her in this game and know her well, so the fact all three of us agree that notty isn't town should hopefully be a somewhat convincing argument on its own

All three of you voted Aqua you guys sure are super reliable when it comes to knowing people. This is also ignoring that:

- 1 of you is Scum.

- The other one is convinced you're scum but wants to lynch me since they are scared I can't be lynched tomorrow Mooglie but Matty could inspect me tonight and even Omni saying I can be lynched tomorrow should be enough reason to think that if I'm not proven tomorrow then I can be lynched. Vote for the Mafia not for the possible third party, you know I am of no threat tonight or tomorrow night because you think I'm an arsonists and you kow how prime/ignite works, go for the threat right in front of you(and take a roleblocking Jail night action away from the Law people) not the one that isn't even a threat on the horizon and has a shimmer of hope that they can be proven town tonight by Matty.

- And the other one is Hip whose only real reason for wanting me dead is believing that there is no way a town vigilante has the prime/ignite abilities and that those are clear Third Party abilities, while at the same time being a hypocrite and arguing that we shouldn't use statistics and look to past games or to what a setup is likely like. So we can't assume there is a vigilante based on how likely it is that there is one (and that they would of CC'd my unCC'd face by now), but you can assume that prime/ignite are only third party because 'thats what they're usually like'.

 

[Nottykitten]

2) she can no longer kill omni tonight. omni lying about being immune would be suicide, so regardless of his win condition, he wouldn't do it - so there's a massive reason to believe that he won't die. most of you are wanting to let notty live so that she can be useful to you tonight by killing one of your suspects, but this can no longer happen. the only way this can happen now is if she douses TWG and sets him on fire instead 2 days from now

I can most certainly try to kill Omni. If he doesn't die it only proves his claim that he can't be killed.

3) she can't be proven town. if notty survives today, matty will die tonight. the mafia will kill matty because, if notty is town, it stops matty from being able to confirm it so gives the mafia a mislynch on notty, and if notty isn't town, getting rid of matty makes us still focus our attention on whether we believe notty or not, meaning mafia get less attention, which is also good for them. so there's no reason at all that the mafia won't kill matty tonight if notty lives

Like Weak already point out, this is a trash argument because none of us can be prove town. Also its a trash argument because I infact CAN be proven town by Matty's night action. Matty doesn't have to die because the threat of a watcher watching Matty ever lingers. So yeah there is plenty of reason the mafia won't kill Matty tonight. Possibly exposing one of their own is not worth people still doubting my claim. Like Omni and others have already said, killing Matty would practically solidify my lynch tomorrow so why not actually take the chance to have me proven instead of lynching your unCC'd town vigilante. I know why you're doing it, you don't want to die but to everyone else giving me a chance to be proven should be a lot more appealing than lynching the unCC'd town vigilante.

4) the other likely candidate is me, so if you think I'm probably town then you'll also want to vote notty to save me

Why you should vote me

1) if you think I'm more scummy than notty, then you should vote for me

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This is super biased and as Claire and Omni pointed out are clear manipulation tactics. Really only putting up a single reason to vote you vs 4 bs reasons to vote me. Look at #4 and tell me that same reason to vote me is not a reason to vote you. Let me write it down for you: 'the other likely candidate is Notty, so if you think Notty is probably town(or want to give them the chance to be proven tonight) then you'll also want to vote Inf to save Notty'. It's a trash reason you only put there to make it look like there are so many reasons to lynch me when in reality #1, #2 and #4 are trash and not even valid reasons.

Clear manipulation tactics. Glad Omni and Claire are calling you out because it's so obvious

 

[HKCaper]

I think most that can be said has been said.

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Pick a side ty.

 

[Omni]

i won't be able to tell whether you used it on me or not, no... unless matty verifies you as town you're getting lynched tomorrow notty <3

 

[Nottykitten]

i won't be able to tell whether you used it on me or not, no... unless matty verifies you as town you're getting lynched tomorrow notty <3

I hold firm belief Matty won't die because then the Mafia would of exposed one of their own to a watcher.

Either way for those who haven't voted yet there is exactly 0 reason to lynch me today when there is a chance I can be proven tonight. Hell, even Omni who I'm threatening to set ablaze is voting Inf because he thinks it's the right thing to do.

 

[Nottykitten]

I would say it's probably good for an unbiased person (aka not me or Inf) to write down why people should vote either me/Inf

 

[Nottykitten]

I would say it's probably good for an unbiased person (aka not me or Inf) to write down why people should vote either me/Inf

Or better yet why not to vote either me/Inf