The Pearled Bridge - Game Complete!

[Nottykitten]

convinced inf is scum: oog
convinced oog is scum: noone
convinced notty is scum: oog, hip, inf

all three of us are convinced of you, we all come together to agree on this, that's my point - what oog thinks of me is irrelevant

Sorry what is this manipulative argument where you leave me out of the people that are convinced you're scum but include yourself as someone whose convinced I'm scum.

my argument is 'all three people who probably know notty best are convinced she's third party'

dismissing my argument 'because it's me vs you' is wrong because I was convinced of this before it became me vs you

and:

convinced inf is scum: oog
convinced oog is scum: noone
convinced notty is scum: oog, hip, inf

all three of us are convinced of you, we all come together to agree on this, that's my point - what oog thinks of me is irrelevant

So explain exactly how Hip thinking the prime/ignite thing is something only third party would have, has anything to do with how well Hip knows me personally.


Your argument is that you 3 know me best so clearly something has to be up is flawed because just because you know me best doesn't mean any of your reasons for lynching me have anything to do with knowing me best, which is the case for 2/3 of you.
Inf: Is litterally in a me vs you scenario so how does you knowing me best make any sense here when you're against me and biased to want me dead. You claim it was before it was me vs you but even then you're scum and thus biased and you yourself are not a valid source of what someone who knows me best thinks of my actions because you're biased by your role, even more so now that its me vs you.
Hip: Voting me because of prime/ignite abilities. This has 0 to do with how well he knows me and adding him to this list is illogical. He knows me well so clearly him thinking I'm scum means something is a stupid argument when his argument to lynch me has nothing to do with knowing me well or reading me any particular way but instead is mostly based on semantics of how roles are set.
Oog: Thinks you're Mafia. And if Oog knowing people well and reading them a certain way is any reason as to suspect someone may be scum and you use this as an argument against me, you're inheritly saying that he also has to be right about you in which case you're arguing I'm Third Party and you're Mafia. This argument only makes sense if you're actually Mafia, because if you were town then Oog's read against you would be wrong and saying his read against me is any indication against my alignment should be flawed for how he misread you.

But you're not arguing Oog's read against me is an indication for me being Third Party ergo also arguing you're actually Mafia yourself. NICE SLIP BTW

 

[Infected_alien8_]

but in this case wouldnt you want matty to absorb the kill rather than have it targeted at a blocker/any other more useful PRs

sure, but my point that I should get back to is that matty will 9 times out of 10 die tonight, so banking on that to let notty live only makes sense to me if you're convinced I'm more scummy than notty - otherwise notty's gonna douse someone else and pull the exact same thing she did today and keep on living. omni and claire said they'd be down for lynching notty, but pretty sure it'll come down to omni vs notty, and pretty sure there's still too many people willing to let notty prove herself and let her live so she won't get lynched tomorrow, omni will, and the she'll kill TWG and be 'proven'

 

[Nottykitten]

explain where 'skill' is in what you just said

There is skill in dousing the right person because if you're wrong then you'd have to waste another day dousing someone else.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

There is skill in dousing the right person because if you're wrong then you'd have to waste another day dousing someone else.

that seems like a lot less 'skill' than 'if you're wrong you killed the wrong person' to me, but alright

 

[Nottykitten]

that seems like a lot less 'skill' than 'if you're wrong you killed the wrong person' to me, but alright

Except you can still be wrong when dousing/igniting someone, this only adds an extra layer of skill where you have to select the target carefully

 

[Omni]

hey guys maybe wait for someone who hasn't voted yet/is inactive to make input before arguing

you're just making it harder for people to catch up & say something

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Sorry what is this manipulative argument where you leave me out of the people that are convinced you're scum but include yourself as someone whose convinced I'm scum.

oh yeah woops sorry, it's probably because I don't actually believe you think I'm scum but yeah I should have included you there, still doesn't change my point though

So explain exactly how Hip thinking the prime/ignite thing is something only third party would have, has anything to do with how well Hip knows me personally.

his argument about that came after he was convinced you were third party, so even without it he was still convinced based on knowing you

Inf: Is litterally in a me vs you scenario so how does you knowing me best make any sense here when you're against me and biased to want me dead. You claim it was before it was me vs you but even then you're scum and thus biased and you yourself are not a valid source of what someone who knows me best thinks of my actions because you're biased by your role, even more so now that its me vs you.

'you're scum so you don't count' isn't a valid argument unless you know I'm scum

Hip: Voting me because of prime/ignite abilities. This has 0 to do with how well he knows me and adding him to this list is illogical. He knows me well so clearly him thinking I'm scum means something is a stupid argument when his argument to lynch me has nothing to do with knowing me well or reading me any particular way but instead is mostly based on semantics of how roles are set.

wrong, he said you were third party before you even claimed

Oog: Thinks you're Mafia. And if Oog knowing people well and reading them a certain way is any reason as to suspect someone may be scum and you use this as an argument against me, you're inheritly saying that he also has to be right about you in which case you're arguing I'm Third Party and you're Mafia. This argument only makes sense if you're actually Mafia, because if you were town then Oog's read against you would be wrong and saying his read against me is any indication against my alignment should be flawed for how he misread you.

wrong, I'm not saying 'me and hip and oog are always 100% right and that's why us three thinking notty is scum is correct', I'm saying 'the fact ALL THREE OF US think she's scum should be a good indicator that she's very likely scum', so your argument here doesn't make sense either

 

[Nottykitten]

hey guys maybe wait for someone who hasn't voted yet/is inactive to make input before arguing

you're just making it harder for people to catch up & say something

Thats true, but on the other hand Inf literally slipped and proved himself Mafia by arguing that how Oog reads me is an indication of my alignment knowing fully well Oog also reads Inf as Mafia so if Oog's reads are valid then Inf has to be Mafia. If Oog were wrong about Inf then Inf would never make the argument that Oog's read against me is an indication of my alignment.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Except you can still be wrong when dousing/igniting someone, this only adds an extra layer of skill where you have to select the target carefully

pretty sure the extra layer is 'you killed someone on your team', as opposed to 'you have to spend another night'

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Thats true, but on the other hand Inf literally slipped and proved himself Mafia by arguing that how Oog reads me is an indication of my alignment knowing fully well Oog also reads Inf as Mafia so if Oog's reads are valid then Inf has to be Mafia. If Oog were wrong about Inf then Inf would never make the argument that Oog's read against me is an indication of my alignment.

I never ever said anywhere that oog's belief = truth, that wasn't my point

I'm saying, all three people agree that notty is scum, so the fact our opinions all align onto you should hopefully be somewhat convincing

 

[Nottykitten]

I never ever said anywhere that oog's belief = truth, that wasn't my point

I'm saying, all three people agree that notty is scum, so the fact our opinions all align onto you should hopefully be somewhat convincing

You're changing your argument now from saying that people who know me well would know best when I act non-town to 'when ALL THREE OF US ALIGN IN OUR BELIEFS you should be somewhat convinced'.

You slipped admit it, a town would never argue Oog knowing me well has a single merit for him reading me scum when he also is 100% convinced you're scum.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

You're changing your argument now from saying that people who know me well would know best when I act non-town to 'when ALL THREE OF US ALIGN IN OUR BELIEFS you should be somewhat convinced'.

You slipped admit it, a town would never argue Oog knowing me well has a single merit for him reading me scum when he also is 100% convinced you're scum.

quote me changing my argument then, because I didn't

my argument this entire time was 'all three of us are convinced notty is scum', not 'oog thinks she's scum and oog's always right'

but keep trying to twist my words against me in a last ditch effort to save your scummy life

 

[Omni]

inf what is the downside of lynching you right now? other than 'hurr u guys will never lynch notty if it ain't today'

 

[Infected_alien8_]

inf what is the downside of lynching you right now? other than 'hurr u guys will never lynch notty if it ain't today'

the fact I'm town

like I said, if you don't believe that fine, vote me, I accept that

 

[hipmeow]

every time i see notty mention "look inf is trying to manipulate you" all i see is someone trying to manipulate us

 

[Nottykitten]

quote me changing my argument then, because I didn't

my argument this entire time was 'all three of us are convinced notty is scum', not 'oog thinks she's scum and oog's always right'

but keep trying to twist my words against me in a last ditch effort to save your scummy life

Sure thing here are the two things you said:

I'm saying, all three people agree that notty is scum, so the fact our opinions all align onto you should hopefully be somewhat convincing

1) all three of me, moog and hip, are convinced she's scum - I'm pretty sure we're the three people closest to her in this game and know her well, so the fact all three of us agree that notty isn't town should hopefully be a somewhat convincing argument on its own

Notice how you conveniently left out the part where you said 'we're the three people closest to her in this game and know her well' because you know it's wrong.

Its you, hip and Oog where you say the combination of all 3 of you knowing me SO well is a somewhat convincing argument against me. Except Hip thinking I'm scum has 0 to do with knowing me well so he shouldn't be part of this list and you damn well know it. Leaving you/Oog. Why would, if you were town, put Oog in this list, knowing that he is wrong about your alignment, and say that him knowing me well is something against me. 'The combination of these 3' is nonsense because you would know as town 1/3 is inheritly false and you also know the second 1/3 isn't voting me for how well he knows me.


You're arguing that people who know me well would be right about me yet you put Oog on your list who, if you're town, you know is wrong about you. Town would not put Oog on this list because you would know his reads wouldn't be the most accurate but you did put him there. So you're arguing as a Mafia.

 

[Omni]

the fact I'm town

like I said, if you don't believe that fine, vote me, I accept that

wow what an outstanding argument thanks inffy for letting us know you're town, let's pack it up guys and vote notty, after all we'll be unable to type "vote Notty" after n2!!

 

[Nottykitten]

every time i see notty mention "look inf is trying to manipulate you" all i see is someone trying to manipulate us

I bet you say the same thing about people who are calling out Brexit lobbyers for manipulating the old folks. Damn those people calling out manipulative people must have an agenda themselves (I mean they probably do in my case its not dying as town)

 

[Infected_alien8_]

every time i see notty mention "look inf is trying to manipulate you" all i see is someone trying to manipulate us

it's funny because I've already openly admitted to manipulating people like oog, if I'm trying to manipulate then I'm honest about it, yet she's ignoring those moments

and yet she keeps taking my posts out of context and screeching that I'm being manipulative in the moments when I'm not

Notice how you conveniently left out the part where you said 'we're the three people closest to her in this game and know her well' because you know it's wrong.

I don't even understand what this means?

Its you, hip and Oog where you say the combination of all 3 of you knowing me SO well is a somewhat convincing argument against me. Except Hip thinking I'm scum has 0 to do with knowing me well so he shouldn't be part of this list and you damn well know it.

wrong, I've already pointed out that hip was convinced you were third party before your claim, so him initially being convinced of it was nothing to do with the prime/ignite argument he's using now

Leaving you/Oog. Why would, if you were town, put Oog in this list, knowing that he is wrong about your alignment, and say that him knowing me well is something against me. 'The combination of these 3' is nonsense because you would know as town 1/3 is inheritly false and you also know the second 1/3 isn't voting me for how well he knows me.

wrong because of the above, and the fact oog isn't voting you isn't because he thinks you're town, he's already said you're 100% third party

my entire point is that all three of us who probably know you best are all in agreement about one thing: you're scum

that's my point

yes oog is wrong about me, but hip isn't, so there's two people who know me well who are disagreeing on me

but with you all three of you are convinced you're scum, that's how clear it is

 

[Omni]

must be some real black magic fuckery going on here when multiple people across the world are suddenly unable to even think about lynching notty!!

 

[Infected_alien8_]

wow what an outstanding argument thanks inffy for letting us know you're town, let's pack it up guys and vote notty, after all we'll be unable to type "vote Notty" after n2!!

you asked me what a downside is for voting you, that's my answer

I can't prove that I'm town

 

[hipmeow]

so him initially being convinced of it was nothing to do with the prime/ignite argument he's using now

to build on this my main suspicions of notty being third party was the whole name buisness and while i still think the name thing is suspicious, it more made me realise the possibility of notty actually being 3p and thinking back i felt like her posts had a 3p FEEL to them

 

[Nottykitten]

wrong, I've already pointed out that hip was convinced you were third party before your claim, so him initially being convinced of it was nothing to do with the prime/ignite argument he's using now

wrong, he thought that because of the name thing not because he knows me so well.

You claim to know me so well how I play as town name me a couple games where I was town

my entire point is that all three of us who probably know you best are all in agreement about one thing: you're scum

that's my point

yes oog is wrong about me, but hip isn't, so there's two people who know me well who are disagreeing on me

but with you all three of you are convinced you're scum, that's how clear it is

'Hey lets make a list of 3 people who, because they know someone SUPER well, them thinking someone is scum must mean something about that someones alignment'

'Oh one of these 3 also thinks that I am 100% confirmed Mafia and he also knows me super well? Well I'm Town so what this person thinks is clearly wrong but lets keep him in this list because thats logical' -Infs brain.

You wouldn't do this as town but you did do it because you're Mafia and you never considered it because Oog wasn't wrong about you, so you thought he was right about me too and wanted to use it as an argument to sway people.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

wrong, he thought that because of the name thing not because he knows me so well.

You claim to know me so well how I play as town name me a couple games where I was town

bastard game, let's not explode, russian mafia, zuplar, lost in fog

wrong, he thought that because of the name thing not because he knows me so well.

You claim to know me so well how I play as town name me a couple games where I was town


'Hey lets make a list of 3 people who, because they know someone SUPER well, them thinking someone is scum must mean something about that someones alignment'

'Oh one of these 3 also thinks that I am 100% confirmed Mafia and he also knows me super well? Well I'm Town so what this person thinks is clearly wrong but lets keep him in this list because thats logical' -Infs brain.

You wouldn't do this as town but you did do it because you're Mafia and you never considered it because Oog wasn't wrong about you, so you thought he was right about me too and wanted to use it as an argument to sway people.

I already said that I included that because I hoped it would be 'somewhat' convincing, key word 'somewhat'

I know it's not a great argument, but I included it because I thought it might turn a few heads to the fact that all three of us who arguably know you best are in agreement about you being scum

whether oog is wrong or not is irelevant, because all three of you guys aren't in agreement about me, and that's the difference

 

[Infected_alien8_]

anyway fair enough if hip's reason was about the names, that does make my 'somewhat' convincing argument less convincing