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[Fog]

So you didn't find the fact that he wanted to lynch me, someone he town-read, so that when I flipped innocent we'd lynch iggish, suspicious? Why not?


I swear you guys had the same argument though?, didn't you? If so, if you could see that Aqua wasn't making sense, did that not make you see that you, too, weren't making sense?


But TWG said that yesterday, which was before you said you town-read him?

I didn't find the first part too suspicious I just think he wanted an Iggish lynch and are you actually valuable? Also because I was rooting for an Inf Lynch do you think I really cared how it happened?

We did basically have the same argument and what he said kinda made sense but I never said my stuff had a point apart from getting you lynched.

But I'm saying him saying that and it now being revealed that Aqua IS Mafia has made me suspicious, before hand I saw it as an offhand comment but now I'm wondering if it had more meaning

 

[Infected_alien8_]

what he said kinda made sense

But you just said that the reason you thought he could be mafia is that what he said had no point to it, so what do you mean?

I didn't find the first part too suspicious I just think he wanted an Iggish lynch and are you actually valuable? Also because I was rooting for an Inf Lynch do you think I really cared how it happened?

I never said my stuff had a point apart from getting you lynched.

See this is another thing, why did you blindly try to get my lynched even if none of your points made sense? Like, why would you think that would be beneficial to town? If you acknowledge that nothing you said had much point then where did your suspicion on me come from, and why did you choose to push hard on me, ignoring other possible suspicious actions from others, ignoring the fact that someone else who made no sense also pushed on me? Didn't you think about the possibility of me being town and aqua being mafia pushing on me?

And if you were so sure that I was mafia, what made you unsure about aqua being town? Surely if he was going so hard on me with you, you'd think "he must be town because he's going after mafia like me!" right?

 

[Fog]

Like, why would you think that would be beneficial to town?

And if you were so sure that I was mafia, what made you unsure about aqua being town?

I think you answered the first question in the second quote... also I've seen mafia members go after their own team mates: for example Mulb this game

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I think you answered the first question in the second quote... also I've seen mafia members go after their own team mates: for example Mulb this game

How did I answer the first question wat?

 

[Fog]

But you just said that the reason you thought he could be mafia is that what he said had no point to it, so what do you mean?

I meant his posts had less direction than TWG's and Aqua knows how to play and I felt more inclined to vote Aqua than TWG but I didn't know if either were mafia as we had very little evidence on anybody. And now people like Nottykitten are giving us that fake news to make it seem like something is real when it's not!

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Like, why were you so sure I was mafia, and why did you think it was beneficial for town to go after me blindly even if you had nothing to back yourself up? It just doesn't make sense to me

 

[Fog]

How did I answer the first question wat?

'Why would lynching me have been beneficial to the town in your opinion' (words to that effect)

'If you were conviced I was mafia....'

^does that clarify a little xD

 

[Infected_alien8_]

'Why would lynching me have been beneficial to the town in your opinion' (words to that effect)

'If you were conviced I was mafia....'

^does that clarify a little xD

Except that was not my question, my question was why did you think it was beneficial to blindly push me, ignoring everything else, even though you had nothing to base your suspicion on? Surely that told you that you could easily be wrong?

 

[Fog]

Like, why were you so sure I was mafia, and why did you think it was beneficial for town to go after me blindly even if you had nothing to back yourself up? It just doesn't make sense to me

You were the only person who there was an actual lead on due to the lynch of Hip and nobody else had actually really done anything at that point apart from policy lynch Jivvi so I went with the one lead I had

 

[Infected_alien8_]

You were the only person who there was an actual lead on due to the lynch of Hip and nobody else had actually really done anything at that point apart from policy lynch Jivvi so I went with the one lead I had

But the thing with hip was not a lead, as you yourself have acknowledged since you said it didn't make sense and you were just trying to find something on me so that you could lynch me. So instead of: grounds for suspicion -> push, it was: push -> grounds for suspicion, which does not make sense to do as a townie. There must have been something that made you feel the need to push me in the first place.

And there were plenty of other leads, but you ignored them all in favour of me. Why.

 

[Fog]

You were the only person who there was an actual lead on due to the lynch of Hip and nobody else had actually really done anything at that point apart from policy lynch Jivvi so I went with the one lead I had

And if you had flipped Maf that would be beneficial... it's not that hard to understand is it? I mean it could have backfired but I mean rn Notty is going after me with no solid evidence and also lying to the town so I don't really understand why you're coming after me. I know she is confirmed to not be mafia but there are other people playing the game

 

[Infected_alien8_]

And if you had flipped Maf that would be beneficial... it's not that hard to understand is it? I mean it could have backfired but I mean rn Notty is going after me with no solid evidence and also lying to the town so I don't really understand why you're coming after me. I know she is confirmed to not be mafia but there are other people playing the game

There are other people playing the game yes but those people didn't blindly push on me for 0 reason all day yesterday and then admit that their points didn't make sense and they were just trying to get my lynched.

 

[Fog]

Firstly Inf can you please provide me with a list of these 'Many' other leads (because I cba to re-read)

And I mean other people did vote for you at the beginning I mean you were up to like 6 votes or something so you obviously seemed suspicious and I know you better than a lot of people playing the game so I know how retarded some of your plays and conspiracies are so that's why I pushed. I mean I'm still suspicious of you, just not as much as yesterday

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Firstly Inf can you please provide me with a list of these 'Many' other leads (because I cba to re-read)

And I mean other people did vote for you at the beginning I mean you were up to like 6 votes or something so you obviously seemed suspicious and I know you better than a lot of people playing the game so I know how retarded some of your plays and conspiracies are so that's why I pushed. I mean I'm still suspicious of you, just not as much as yesterday

Well there were several big essays pointing suspicions on several other people. For example, Aqua's contradiction and slip. Mulb's recycled points against me. Iggish's voting patterns. TWG's lurking and bizarre deals. And yes, I had votes on me, one of which was yours, which was for no reason, one of which was aqua's, which was because he was mafia, one of which was oak's, which was because I had confused him or something, one of which was Ender's because he was reaction testing me and one of which was Notty's because she was reaction testing me.

And what do you mean you pushed me because you know my plays and conspiracies? What plays and conspiracies did I do, that lead you to think I was suspicious?

 

[Fog]

Firstly can I add that Notty came after me with no evidence at was trying to lynch me quite hard, all be it not as aggressively as me but eh

What plays and conspiracies did I do, that lead you to think I was suspicious?

You killed Hip because it's retarded and nobody would expect you because it's retarded? Also you played more cringe than usual and you trying hard = foggy cringe fest

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Firstly can I add that Notty came after me with no evidence at was trying to lynch me quite hard, all be it not as aggressively as me but eh



You killed Hip because it's retarded and nobody would expect you because it's retarded? Also you played more cringe than usual and you trying hard = foggy cringe fest

She came at you because you were pushing me for no logical reason, which is suspicious, especially since aqua is mafia. It feels like you both decided to push on me from the start since it'd be an easy lynch.

Honestly I just find it hard to believe that you pushed on me, as a townie, because you had a super strong feeling that I killed hip because it made no sense to. This relies on the fact that the mafia all went for a kill based on what would make me look good, which is far-fetched in itself, but the fact there were other arguments made about other people that actually had substance to them, and you chose to ignore them in favour of pushing me, even going to the extent of throwing nonsensical arguments together to get me lynched, pretending that those were the reasons you had to lynch me when in reality you were just trying to justify pushing me and then admitting to that, and then lynched off the person who helped you do it because their arguments didn't make sense even though they were the same as yours, just does not make any sense to me in the slightest.


So if you could clear all that up for me that'd be great <3

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also foggy I'd like to hear your opinion on Iggish please

 

[Fog]

She came at you because you were pushing me for no logical reason, which is suspicious, especially since aqua is mafia. It feels like you both decided to push on me from the start since it'd be an easy lynch.

Honestly I just find it hard to believe that you pushed on me, as a townie, because you had a super strong feeling that I killed hip because it made no sense to. This relies on the fact that the mafia all went for a kill based on what would make me look good, which is far-fetched in itself, but the fact there were other arguments made about other people that actually had substance to them, and you chose to ignore them in favour of pushing me, even going to the extent of throwing nonsensical arguments together to get me lynched, pretending that those were the reasons you had to lynch me when in reality you were just trying to justify pushing me and then admitting to that, and then lynched off the person who helped you do it because their arguments didn't make sense even though they were the same as yours, just does not make any sense to me in the slightest.


So if you could clear all that up for me that'd be great <3

Can you find where I say that Aquas points didn't make any sense? And honestly I feel my playstyle is quite brash like I go for who I want to go for and then that's that. If I become suspicious of someone I won't want them to stay alive and I feel that I had more justification pushing you because I know you better than I a lot of people and the more you are interrogating me now the more suspicious I am becoming of you again.

Also in all fairness I don't really know what to think of Iggish, I mean everybody seems to be making these points against him and I don't know how much substance the arguments have. At this moment in time I am unsure of who to vote for. Give me options guys

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Can you find where I say that Aquas points didn't make any sense?

Well you said you had the same argument and you acknowledged that your points never made sense and that you were just trying to throw something together because you were so sure of me being Mafia, so surely that means you also acknowledged Aqua made no sense either? I mean I'm pretty sure it was yesterday that you said you realized your points didn't make sense, before you gave you opinion (or lack of) on Aqua, saying he could be Mafia or town, and later explaining this conclusion on your opinion that what he said didn't have much point to it. I would go back and quote but on mobile atm. Also you said

I didn't read Aqua because nothing he said really had any point?

So if you knew Aqua had no point and they were the same as yours then...? Honestly I don't even see how this could mean you're Mafia it just confuses me.

I mean I get you thought I was suspicious and tried to gather whatever evidence you could but your way of going about getting me lynched wasn't helpful to town, the fact you blindly went for me based off of some kind of random suspicion that came from nowhere was also unhelpful to town, and so I'm inclined to think that you're not on towns side. I'm sorry for interrogating you but you've not exactly been townie this game.

 

[Fog]

Well you said you had the same argument and you acknowledged that your points never made sense and that you were just trying to throw something together because you were so sure of me being Mafia, so surely that means you also acknowledged Aqua made no sense either? I mean I'm pretty sure it was yesterday that you said you realized your points didn't make sense, before you gave you opinion (or lack of) on Aqua, saying he could be Mafia or town, and later explaining this conclusion on your opinion that what he said didn't have much point to it. I would go back and quote but on mobile atm. Also you said


So if you knew Aqua had no point and they were the same as yours then...? Honestly I don't even see how this could mean you're Mafia it just confuses me.

I mean I get you thought I was suspicious and tried to gather whatever evidence you could but your way of going about getting me lynched wasn't helpful to town, the fact you blindly went for me based off of some kind of random suspicion that came from nowhere was also unhelpful to town, and so I'm inclined to think that you're not on towns side. I'm sorry for interrogating you but you've not exactly been townie this game.

I've been me, and that's all I aim to be, I ain't gonna change for people like you, you can't make me

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Well I'm super confused and still trying to understand, but from what I gather, you had a suspicion that I killed hip, so you came up with theories as to why I'd do that and tried to get others to push on me, and Aqua also thought I killed hip but you didn't think his points has anything to them, but you thought your points, which were the same, did, and because you didn't think his points had much to them you were happy to lynch him off because you weren't sure if he was Mafia or town? Meanwhile you realise your points don't sense but still push on me because you're confident that somehow I was related to hips death, and ignore the other points being thrown around because you were so confident that I was Mafia? Is this accurate?

 

[Fog]

Well I'm super confused and still trying to understand, but from what I gather, you had a suspicion that I killed hip, so you came up with theories as to why I'd do that and tried to get others to push on me, and Aqua also thought I killed hip but you didn't think his points has anything to them, but you thought your points, which were the same, did, and because you didn't think his points had much to them you were happy to lynch him off because you weren't sure if he was Mafia or town? Meanwhile you realise your points don't sense but still push on me because you're confident that somehow I was related to hips death, and ignore the other points being thrown around because you were so confident that I was Mafia? Is this accurate?

42?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

42?

Wat

 

[Fog]

Wat

Your post was semi accurate but not 100% I mean at the end of the day I had the choice between to players, one whom I townread and the other who I couldn't place, therefore I voted the one who I was more suspicious of

 

[Fog]

I'm not going to say I lynched Aqua because I thought he was mafia, because that is not true, I believe he had a higher chance of being mafia than TWG and I placed my vote accordingly