The Red Scare [Game Over]

[Iggish]

Sure, why not? Infected's atleast moving the game along (though he is suspicious >.>). Jivvi hasn't done anything. All I really wanted from the start was a lynch and it's looking like he's the majority option now so
unvote

vote jivvi

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Wait I'm a bit confused. I mean I'm really liking the fact that someone other than me is being lynched but I thought the whole point of lynching someone was to get information - once they're dead and we see their role, we see who they agreed with/interacted with/how/what they said/what others said about them and who defended them or attacked them etc. Nobody has said anything about jivvi since he's been afk and obviously he's not said anything either, so to vote him feels like a waste - especially since he can't claim to defend himself. Like, what if he's PR and we all lynch him because he wasn't able to defend himself, what an easy lynch for the Mafia (potentially). Plus I kinda feel like there's a big chance ltin won't find a replacement and he'll be modkilled anyway. So yeah I'm not for a jivvi lynch, I'd rather no-lynch than get jivvi. Or y'know get HK or hip <3

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also not sure when the deadline is but just in case I die tonight, here are my final day 0 vibe readings for you to use if you have nothing else (and please can people start trusting my vibes more, they're right most of the time!!!!!)

Vibes on HK
Not really "vibes" as such but given what I know, I'm fairly confident hip is Mafia
Small vibes on Samlen

 

[Fog]

Unvote

Vote Jivvi

 

[Enderfive]

I thought the whole point of lynching someone was to get information - once they're dead and we see their role, we see who they agreed with/interacted with/how/what they said/what others said about them and who defended them or attacked them etc.

>implying we won't get info from his role
>implying we won't have lesser suspects to choose from
>implying we won't be able to analyse the way some of us hopped on the policy bandwagon and some (you) didn't

so to vote him feels like a waste

Plus I kinda feel like there's a big chance ltin won't find a replacement and he'll be modkilled anyway

if you mean that we should maximise our kill chances then we can't kill too many people off too quickly either, we gotta watch our mafia/players ratio

Like, what if he's PR and we all lynch him because he wasn't able to defend himself

he's inactive anyway, so it's not like he was going to be doing much with his role to begin with

I'd rather no-lynch than get jivvi

wow what a dumb idea

 

[Aqua]

unvote

vote jivvi

I guess we hope he flips scum

 

[Ltin]

Correct me if I am wrong but that is one vote to lynch yes?

 

[Enderfive]

i think it is yeah

 

[hipmeow]

best reason to lynch right now i suppose
unvote
vote jivvi

 

[Ltin]

And that is lynch.
Day will be properly resolved eventually.
But for now gg jivvi.

 

[Enderfive]

we made history bois, first day 0 lynch ever in this community

 

[Ltin]

we made history bois, first day 0 lynch ever in this community

History may not look on this moment kindly

 

[Ltin]

FINAL VOTECOUNT
Nottykitten [1] - Oak63
HKCaper [1] - Infected_alien8
Foggy2406 [1] - Nottykitten
Jivvi [9] - Samlen, HKCaper, TheWeakGuy48_, Enderfive, Unusual_Dood, Iggish, Foggy2406, Aqua, hipman500

Jivvi sat at the meeting not saying anything or participating in any way, so when all the doors slammed shut and locked at the same time, they thought he was responsible and killed him. They barely even had time to regret their actions before the lights went out.

I bet you all are really excited for me to tell you that you managed to lynch a mafia on day 0.

Jivvi, the cop, has been lynched.
It is now night 1.

 

[Ltin]

wow very efficient. 10/10

When the lights came back on hipman500 was dead in the middle of the room. With the doors still locked they all assumed they were trapped, and would have to figure out who killed him.

Hipman500 was a Villager.

Spoiler: Players

1. HKCaper
2. Foggy2406
3. CaffeinatedKitty
4. Unusual_dood
5. TheWeakGuy48_
6. Salmen
7. Iggish
8. Aqua
9. Enderfive
10. Oak63
12. Infected_alien8
13. Nottykitten
14. Ooglie101
16. Mulbery

It is now day 1. With 14 players it takes 8 to lynch and 7 to no lynch.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Huh...well that's interesting

Hip was not acting like he usually does as a townie at all yesterday, so I'm a bit confused as to how he's not mafia (sorry about that), but I'm even more confused as to why hip was chosen out of everyone to die last night, and I can't help but think I'm being framed here, but then again, I doubt the mafia would waste a kill on trying to frame me since hip could have been cultist for all they knew, so then they'd have wasted a kill just to frame me, and why would they want to frame me in particular, and why would just making it clear that I was incorrect about my read on him 'frame' me? Unless they thought people would think that since I was friends with him, I'd kill him? But anyway, I can't think of any other reason for why hip was killed and it makes me look innocent so I'm going to go with the theory of 'I'm being framed' <3

Also, unless the vigilante killed hip and the mafia's kill was stopped, I'm going to go ahead and lean towards the fact that foggy is innocent, since I really don't think he'd kill hip since he told me last game he didn't want to kill us because we're friends and he wanted to play with us, so if that still applies, I doubt foggy is mafia (or at least, the person to agree to kill us). Plus I've kind of town-read foggy so far anyway (which I was going to say yesterday but when I got back from my shower the day had ended)

SPEAKING OF WHICH


I understand that people just wanted a lynch and so went with the bandwagon, but I'm slightly suspicious of everyone who did - going against someone who had no chance of defending themselves, reasoning it with the fact that if they're PR they're inactive anyway, to me just makes no sense - they could have been replaced, in which case they would be useful and would be able to defend themselves and claim their role if they were a PR, and if not then they were going to be modkilled anyway so why lynch them when there was a chance they could come back and be active, and if not they'd essentially be auto-lynched for us (that was my point Ender, rather than it being to maximise kills)? It just didn't make sense to me and to be honest, this, combined with what I felt like was you Ender trying to WIFOM your way into an excuse to lynch me previously in the game, makes me a bit suspicious towards you. I understand that there's a possibility that you're town and for some reason just really want a lynch so badly that you're willing to lose a PR just to get one but to me it just seemed a bit weird that you found a lynch to be that vital. I'm not going to vote you or anything yet, and I'm still way more suspicious of HK than you, but I am a bit suspicious of you now and kind of want to hear why you find a lynch on day 0 so important.

Aqua, I want to know the answer to my question that I gave you yesterday please - why did you vote me because of a joke, saying I was the most suspicious, even though it was super early, before people had even replied to the thread yet? Was it a reaction test? If it was, why did you keep the vote until the Jivvi bandwagon had developed significantly?

I did my very best to make this post less chaotic and more organised and throught-through, so if it comes across as different - good, that's why.

Also I'd just like to point out that I didn't have vibes on hip, I just used previous experience, so my vibes weren't wrong #trustinf'svibesHKismafiaandpossiblysamlentoo

 

[Infected_alien8_]

(actually can everyone who voted jivvi explain why they found a lynch to be vital enough to risk all that, I kinda forgot that ender wasn't the only one involved while I was writing that post I think)

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I can literally feel the suspicion oozing from my post there but oh well

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also, the more I think about it, the more I'm kind of worried that the vigilante killed hip because of what I said...

if that's the case, sorry hip <3

 

[Iggish]

(actually can everyone who voted jivvi explain why they found a lynch to be vital enough to risk all that, I kinda forgot that ender wasn't the only one involved while I was writing that post I think)

I just wanted to lynch someone to get the game moving. As a result, I hopped on the majority bandwagon as I unvoted for you and voted for jivvi instead.
The fact that hipman was killed during the night when you were suspicious of him makes me think that you (and your fellow mafia group?) had a hand to play in his death.
To carry on from my suspicions from day 1, I still find inf very suspicious and the fact that hipman was killed during the night strengthens my resolve that he should be lynched.
Vote Infected_Alien

 

[Enderfive]

what a meme

oh well, at least we're still keeping the community traditions alive #lynchallcops

 

[Enderfive]

I understand that people just wanted a lynch and so went with the bandwagon, but I'm slightly suspicious of everyone who did - going against someone who had no chance of defending themselves, reasoning it with the fact that if they're PR they're inactive anyway, to me just makes no sense - they could have been replaced, in which case they would be useful and would be able to defend themselves and claim their role if they were a PR, and if not then they were going to be modkilled anyway so why lynch them when there was a chance they could come back and be active, and if not they'd essentially be auto-lynched for us (that was my point Ender, rather than it being to maximise kills)? It just didn't make sense to me and to be honest, this, combined with what I felt like was you Ender trying to WIFOM your way into an excuse to lynch me previously in the game, makes me a bit suspicious towards you. I understand that there's a possibility that you're town and for some reason just really want a lynch so badly that you're willing to lose a PR just to get one but to me it just seemed a bit weird that you found a lynch to be that vital. I'm not going to vote you or anything yet, and I'm still way more suspicious of HK than you, but I am a bit suspicious of you now and kind of want to hear why you find a lynch on day 0 so important.

I already explained why I found a lynch vital - I find a day 0 lynch vital every game, but especially in this game, since it gives us a starting point we otherwise would probably not have. The cop would be unlikely, and honestly, not very smart, to immediately out himself on Day 1 and report his findings, even if he did find a mafioso the first night, so without it, the only clue we'd have on Day 1 would be the nightkills. Combine that with the high chance of hitting a scum compared to hitting a Town PR, a lynch was preferable, not to mention the fact that even if it was a mislynch, it would mean we have an even higher chance of lynching mafia afterward.

Why I wanted a lynch instead of a modkill - you can't analyse modkills for player behaviour, but you can analyse lynches. I personally gave my reasons, but a lot of the lynchers last day didn't, and I'm pretty sure there's bound to be at least a few mafia in there going along with an easy lynch, so that's where I'd start looking.

 

[Fog]

*coughs to get the attention of the people* Ok so I don't really know how to read the kill on hip, yes day one I was voting Inf just for the sake of voting Inf, however, now I am unsure as to whether he is Town or Mafia (inb4 we lynch him and he is vigilante or Doctor and goes on a caps lock passive aggressive typing spree). On the one hand going killing Hip would have been the easy option as Inf has said to frame him, but at the same time that could be a strategy to kill somebody else off. In addition at this point in the game I am wondering if killing inf off would really accomplish anything, like we could always create theories on everybody and then work out from there who is suspicious and Inf could always be the default Lynch in the case of the 'we have nothing' or if we accidentally lynch another Town sided player next day we can kill him off...(tbh by that point I will probably be sick of reading his messages). Also Inf to answer your question, I did feel that a lynch day 0 was a better option due to the odds, yes it backfired, but let's be honest if Jivvi wasn't going to talk then was he really worth having in game anyway? So for now I'm going to hold back from voting but my suspicions lie with Inffy, Ender (for pushing the lynch - but could just have been unfortunate), Notty (ARE YOU WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE?!?!?), and I suppose Mulb cause they have spoken more this game than the entire last game and that for me is suspicious what you compensating for?

That's all for now I'm going to work again - hope to return to some action

 

[Aqua]

Hip was not acting like he usually does as a townie at all yesterday, so I'm a bit confused as to how he's not mafia (sorry about that), but I'm even more confused as to why hip was chosen out of everyone to die last night,

Am I the only one who thinks this is inf trying to justify his night killing hip?

It seems he's trying to convince himself he was right in my actions, but then adding the latter part to seem innocent. Maybe I'm overthinking it or it's just worded shit (since inf has a tendency to do so), eitherway it seems pretty suspicious to me

Enderfive analyse it for me bebe

 

[HKCaper]

At this point I really do not see why I would have to explain myself to Inf, who has been trying to get suspicion on me since start, but hell I am doing it anyway.

Yesterday we were heading towards a no-lynch. Neither Inf, Foggy, Myself or anyone else for that matter was getting 9 votes, besides Jivvi. I thought the chance of lynching a mafia (or cult leader) outweighed the risks of lynching a town Cop/Doctor/Vigilante. Oh boi we messed up on that one. Mistakes were made, but remember, we lynched the cop last game and won, so we can win again.

My thoughts on the hipman lynch. So we all know Inf had vibes on hipman, hipman dies, what does that mean? Why would Inf as mafia, night kill hipman after he said he had suspicions on hipman. It just all seems there could either be crazy (reverse) psychologies at play here or just a weird coincidence. I do feel Inf is trying way to hard to analyse the hipman kill and overall flood us with questions and thoughts. Like this

Also, the more I think about it, the more I'm kind of worried that the vigilante killed hip because of what I said...

if that's the case, sorry hip <3

Why would a vigilante ever kill someone just because you said it day 0? Even more so, why would mafia decide not to kill anyone, that seems hella stupid for them.

So let's get a bit more serious here. Yesterday you started with sharing your 'vibes' on me, Hip, and Samlen. What are the odds the three of us are town, and you are using your 'flood' strat to get people to lynch us now or possibly later on, setting up a great game where town gets lynched during day and killed during nights. In my eyes the odds are very high.

vote Inffy

two disclaimers here for two possible events:
1. If Inffy gets lynched and flips town, in my defense he did make himself quite suspicious.

2. If I get lynched or die during night at some point, and Inffy is still in the game, make sure to lynch him.

No thoughts are final at this stage of the game, but this is what I think right now.

 

[Nottykitten]

Yes let's all jump on the Inf bandwagon since it's such an easy lynch 10/10 strategy. I'm about 90% sure Inf converted foggy last night to his communist empire, which is why they seem to be teaming right now. I mean foggy could only be teaming back if he knew he was converted, but I'm just gonna assume someone gets told at the start of the day whether or not they were converted. Since Foggy and Inf are such good friends ofcourse Inf would convert him first. I actually feel pretty sure about this.

And while I ofcourse want to lynch the filthy communist, it's pretty important we try and go for Mafia aswell. I still think Foggy is Mafia, and so I'd like to lynch him today. A foggy lynch could, in my eyes, also prove that Inf is indeed the communist leader when foggy flips communist. And the vig can take him out during the night if that's the case.

I think the following people are Mafia based on gut feelings + their voting: Foggy, Hk, Iggish and one of Unusual/Weak. While I'm suspicious of Ender, right now I don't actually think he's Mafia.

Vote Foggy