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"I'm confused - why does the fact that I found hip to be suspicious re-enforce the theory that I'm mafia? I'm the mafia, I know who's evil and who isn't...? I mean you could argue I thought that hip was cultist but as mafia why would I care so much about the cult to waste our N1 kill on them?" -Inf

Well you said that you know when hip is mafia because they act differently. You were suspicious of them and as a result, trying to get other people to lynch hip. My guess is that you wanted hip killed and so did it with your mafioso buddies at night.

(Also, can someone tell me if hip is a good mafia player? If inf (not even him necessarily, anyone) knew that hip was not on their team then they'd try to take out the most influential players even though they might not have had a strong role.)
 
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Iggish said:
(Also, can someone tell me if hip is a good mafia player? If inf (not even him necessarily, anyone) knew that hip was not on their team then they'd try to take out the most influential players even though they might not have had a strong role.)
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Hip has played a few games of Mafia, but from what i've heard he's not 'good'. I mean speaking to him out of games he does come up with a lot of theories but he doesn't really speak out in the games. So I don't think the mafia would have killed him for being an 'influential' player as you put it. Ask Aqua he has opinions on hip ;)
 
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questions?
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Infected_alien8_ said:
I'm confused - why does the fact that I found hip to be suspicious re-enforce the theory that I'm mafia? I'm the mafia, I know who's evil and who isn't...? I mean you could argue I thought that hip was cultist but as mafia why would I care so much about the cult to waste our N1 kill on them?



Why are you so set on killing me? :( Why default to me when we have noone else? I can't tell if you're joking or you're serious. Like, why are you so suspicious of me exactly, but not enough to want to kill me? What? Also, what did you mean when you said:


What strategy would that be?


Have they? The only thing I recall them saying was answering the questions, which everyone answered. (tbh I had the thought of 'maybe Mulb is mafia since last game they eventually talked loads and got good responses from it, so I imagined they'd talk more today, but they didn't so maybe they got mafia which is why they had to be quiet again', but then I figured I was overthinking and never posted but it's worth thinking about I suppose)


Yes because as a member of the mafia who just killed someone I'd post in the thread justifying to myself why I chose to kill.

Also:


SLIP? (I'm not even joking). Also can you, yet again, answer my question that you've avoided twice now?


I'm only trying to get suspicion on you because in my eyes you're super scummy and so I want you lynched, and to do so I need others to agree with me and see where I'm coming from (or just trust me but that's probably never going to happen)


Me analysing hip's death is not me trying to 'flood' you with questions and thoughts, I don't really understand your point there - like, surely the more thoughts and questions I provoke for everyone, the better, since as town we can think about it more and come up with more ideas and discussion? Why is me analysing hip's death unhelpful?


Why not? Maybe they trusted what I thought of hip and went for it? And I didn't mean that the mafia maybe decided not to kill anyone, I meant that maybe the doctor prevented their kill.


What 'flood' strat? Flooding you with questions and thoughts? How would that lead into you getting lynched? I'm very confused, and it feels like you've just thrown anything you can think of together to excuse voting me before anything starts on you


Is there anything more to your suspicion on foggy than gut feelings? And why don't you think Ender is mafia, is that another gut feeling?

I'm tempted to vote HK but not going to yet since I want more discussion and everyone to speak before we lynch and I feel like if we all set up votes immediately people will just make posts based on those rather than stuff like what happened yesterday or who they think is suspicious.
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In this post I have questions for you, Nottykitten, Aqua and HK (but HK was a good person and read my post and replied!!!! :( )

Iggish said:
"I'm confused - why does the fact that I found hip to be suspicious re-enforce the theory that I'm mafia? I'm the mafia, I know who's evil and who isn't...? I mean you could argue I thought that hip was cultist but as mafia why would I care so much about the cult to waste our N1 kill on them?" -Inf

Well you said that you know when hip is mafia because they act differently. You were suspicious of them and as a result, trying to get other people to lynch hip. My guess is that you wanted hip killed and so did it with your mafioso buddies at night.

(Also, can someone tell me if hip is a good mafia player? If inf (not even him necessarily, anyone) knew that hip was not on their team then they'd try to take out the most influential players even though they might not have had a strong role.)
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Why would I want hip dead so badly though, and if I did, why would I try to get him lynched during the day rather than just wait to kill him at night, since leading a lynch on someone I know to be innocent would end with me being suspicious. If I was mafia I'd probably be better off keeping hip alive actually since then I'd at least have someone to target during the day, rather than killing the person I found suspicious, but you can spin this round as reverse psychology too I guess.

And I'd agree with fog (agreeing again yes) in that hip is a decent player but doesn't say a lot of stuff that he probably should, so I wouldn't say he's influential, which is why I was so confused about why he died last night, which led me onto conclude that either I was being setup somehow or the vigilante killed him, following my reads.
 
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If I was mafia I'd probably be better off keeping hip alive actually since then I'd at least have someone to target during the day, rather than killing the person I found suspicious, but you can spin this round as reverse psychology too I guess.
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(nvm just realised this no makes sense but the other point still stands)
 
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Infected_alien8_ said:
In this post I have questions for you, Nottykitten, Aqua and HK (but HK was a good person and read my post and replied!!!! :( )


Why would I want hip dead so badly though, and if I did, why would I try to get him lynched during the day rather than just wait to kill him at night, since leading a lynch on someone I know to be innocent would end with me being suspicious. If I was mafia I'd probably be better off keeping hip alive actually since then I'd at least have someone to target during the day, rather than killing the person I found suspicious, but you can spin this round as reverse psychology too I guess.

And I'd agree with fog (agreeing again yes) in that hip is a decent player but doesn't say a lot of stuff that he probably should, so I wouldn't say he's influential, which is why I was so confused about why he died last night, which led me onto conclude that either I was being setup somehow or the vigilante killed him, following my reads.
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Well maybe you wanted hip to die in the day so you could then kill another person at night? From a mafia perspective, the more down townies the better right? Maybe you found hip the most suspicious of being a high town role and so wanted to get rid of him. As it didn't work during the day, you had to kill him at night instead of someone else who you could've gone for if hip had been lynched.

While I do still find you suspicious, I agree with hk that there are also other mafia which we should be going after. In my opinion there are quite a few people not replying to this thread very often and as a result, are trying to slip under the radar.

TheWeakGuy is an example of this. He doesn't seem to talk unless asked a question and just lets the game play out around him, hoping not to be pointed out. I'd like to know his thoughts on what's happening at the moment and who he thinks is suspicious.
 
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Iggish said:
Well maybe you wanted hip to die in the day so you could then kill another person at night? From a mafia perspective, the more down townies the better right? Maybe you found hip the most suspicious of being a high town role and so wanted to get rid of him. As it didn't work during the day, you had to kill him at night instead of someone else who you could've gone for if hip had been lynched.

While I do still find you suspicious, I agree with hk that there are also other mafia which we should be going after. In my opinion there are quite a few people not replying to this thread very often and as a result, are trying to slip under the radar.

TheWeakGuy is an example of this. He doesn't seem to talk unless asked a question and just lets the game play out around him, hoping not to be pointed out. I'd like to know his thoughts on what's happening at the moment and who he thinks is suspicious.
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Well I was eating my sausages and mash and suddenly became super suspicious that igg is mafia and killed hip in order to use this exact argument against me today (I mean I'm probably just being paranoid but it's worth thinking about and we all know that ideas when eating sausages and mash are always the best ideas!!!)
 
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Meanwhile I'm just going to

vote Aqua

real quick since he avoided giving his reasons why he voted Jivvi and voted me at the start of the game for a reason which I don't think made sense and when pressed for answers ignored those too and so until I get answers my vote is on you, since you are the most 'objectively' scummy in my eyes, since vibes or not, refusing to answer questions to town is unhelpful and therefore makes me think you're not with the town.

I'll probably unvote once you answer all the questions you've avoided but we'll see, it depends on your answers I suppose.

I still am suspicious of you HK but I'm willing to join you in peace and lay my vibe feelings to rest for the time being, especially since noone seems to agree with me anyway, and sticking to just focusing all my energy on you is probably not the most helpful thing to do right now.
 
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Meanwhile I'm just going to

vote Aqua

real quick since he avoided giving his reasons why he voted Jivvi and voted me at the start of the game for a reason which I don't think made sense and when pressed for answers ignored those too and so until I get answers my vote is on you, since you are the most 'objectively' scummy in my eyes, since vibes or not, refusing to answer questions to town is unhelpful and therefore makes me think you're not with the town.
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i'm just gonna hop in here real quick and point out two things:


Aqua said:
Inf is king of shit double bluffs; his opening thingy which he posted where he's trying to look stupidly suspicious on purpose seems, from my knowledge of inf, something he would only do IF actually mafia.
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is what he said when i questioned him about him voting you

and the reason he hasn't said much today is because:



not saying he's not scum, not saying he is scum, just saying that he did answer (albeit shittily) your question about voting you before you even asked that question and since he is out for the day, it's not like he's had many opportunities to answer the second question
 
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