Okay so I'm on my laptop now so I can make a proper post. During the time between my last post and this post, I also thought of a few other points that I'm going to write about here.
So, first of all, my responses to Mulbery. The first part (in green) was in the last post, directly copied and pasted:
Firstly, I can't tell for sure if HK is scum or town. So far he's acted like how he was acting last game i.e. townie, so I can't tell for sure. Foggy's table seems to indicate quite a bit of suspicion on HK, and from my previous games with him the way he says things tend to get a lot of attention on him, so it's kinda unexpected. It could go either way.
Next, foggy... I have no idea. Foggy is being foggy. Again, acting like how he's been acting in the mafia games I've played with him (which was really just one game). Same as above.
[BCOLOR=#00ff00]
HK acting the same? Are you sure about that? I mean come on people how are me fog and oog the only ones noticing how completely different he is this game?[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=#00ff00]
Foggy was Mafia in the last game you played with him so I'm a bit confused as to how the fact he's acting the same makes you town-read him, and again, I don't think he is acting the same - he hasn't changed as much as HK had but I do see a slight shift in him that I can quite pinpoint but it does make me semi-town read him (but then again this shift could be the fact he's not new anymore actually)[/BCOLOR]
On inffy, he seemed awfully desperate to justify his suspicions on hip on the dawn of the second day, and to be honest, I wouldn't have really thought of inffy as being the killer until he mentioned the possibility of someone framing him.
Could you point out where I 'awfully desperately' tried to 'justify' my suspicions on hip at any point this day? The only line I can see where I say anything of the sort is this:
Huh...well that's interesting
Hip was not acting like he usually does as a townie at all yesterday, so I'm a bit confused as to how he's not mafia (sorry about that), but I'm even more confused as to why hip was chosen out of everyone to die last night
The rest of my time at the start of the day was spent theorising as to why hip was killed. I'm confused as to where you got the idea that I was justifying things from, but Aqua did say I was 'justifying' killing hip, so maybe that's where you got it from:
Am I the only one who thinks this is inf trying to justify his night killing hip?
Next:
yet on the other hand he just seems like he's trying too hard, which makes it really hard for me to take him seriously. He's not usually like this unless hes being threatened with a lynch, where he desperately tries to prove that he is on the town side. It seems like at this point that is the case as well - him being pushed to prove that he's town. It's just that there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of things pushing him to do so except for the hip death and the suspicions, which kinda stem from him flooding the thread with so many posts. I can't say I'm suspicious. Doubtful, maybe. Mostly confused as to what I should believe in and what I shouldn't.
I disagree that I'm 'trying too hard' or acting like I do when I'm 'threatened with a lynch, where I desperately try to prove that I am on the town side' - again, could you point out where I have done anything remotely similar to this? All I've done this game is scum hunt, prod people, ask questions and made that graph, so I fail to see where you get the impression that I'm acting all desperate and trying too hard from. Oh wait, I don't.
is it just me or is inf trying way too hard to be a townie
Maybe you got it from this, in which case, this is the second point against me that you've recycled from other people's points against me, which does kind of make me a bit suspicious of you to be honest. It feels like you're budding up with people.
Speaking of which.
Has anyone else noticed how Aqua has been acting a bit buddy-buddy with Ender?
Enderfive analyse it for me bebe
not saying he's not scum, not saying he is scum, just saying that he did answer (albeit shittily) your question about voting you before you even asked that question and since he is out for the day,
I'm back, the slip up was me just waking up and being tired so saying my instead of your or w/e. The suspicions pretty dumb now that I look back at it, but I'm busy atm so I cba to read back your questions and shit. Just ignore the point if you think it's dumb.
This isn't a big point and it doesn't make me overly suspicious but I think it's worth noting. The second two quotes are showing that Ender calls aqua's point dumb and then aqua comes back and calls it dumb himself, which I find kind of odd - surely as a townie he must have thought his suspicion on me through before voting me, so why does he suddenly 'look back at it' and realize it's pretty dumb? Because Ender said so? And he tagged Ender to analyze my post for him. I mean it could just be that Aqua respects Ender's opinion to the point where he's willing to discard his own but it does make me a little suspicious of them both. Like maybe they're mafia together and Aqua is following Ender's lead, idk.
This, combined with Aqua's self contradiction where he said he wanted to vote the most scummy and then joined the Jivvi bandwagon on day 0, as well as his slip earlier (and I am kind of becoming more and more convinced that it was in fact a slip) where he said:
Am I the only one who thinks this is inf trying to justify his night killing hip?
It seems he's trying to convince himself he was right in my actions, but then adding the latter part to seem innocent. Maybe I'm overthinking it or it's just worded shit (since inf has a tendency to do so), eitherway it seems pretty suspicious to me
builds up my suspicion on him. I don't have mafia 'vibes' from him but I also didn't have mafia vibes from him last game, and he turned out to be the Mafia Godfather, so what do I know.
Now, my response to Igg:
Well there are 5 mafia after all and most people are only suspicious of 1 or 2 people. So how about we do a thing where we all comment on who we each think are mafia, all five of them.
If I had to pick 5, I'd probably go with:
Infected -has been suspicious for me the whole game
HkCaper- pretty shady in my opinion, and it seems that everyone is pointing out how different he is acting this game.
TheWeakGuy - beginning to look pretty damn shady in my eyes (lack of content, accusing the accusor, trying to stay under the radar)
Samlen- lack of content and a gut feeling
and let's say Oog / Aqua for my fifth (I'm not sure who to put here)
How come you've put both me and HKCaper in your proposed mafia team? You said earlier yourself when talking to TheWeakGuy that you think it's unlikely that mafia would attack each other (not saying I agree but it's what you said):
This would be agreeing with someone who you think is suspicious of being a mafia. I doubt a mafia would attack another mafia.
This contradiction and others like it make me a bit suspicious - it's a contradiction in your views, which could mean you're not being truthful about what you say in your posts. The fact that you and TWG both have points against you, in my eyes, for being suspicious (the things unusual_dood said about you, the things you said about TWG) kinda makes me wonder if both of you are actually mafia, together, and your points against TWG were an attempt to make him look innocent if you were lynched (or vice versa) and you used the point of 'I doubt a mafia would attack another mafia' to deflect his point when in reality you agree with his mindset and are just argueing for the sake of argueing. Kind of colvulted and unlikely, I know, but it was a thought I had so I popped it in here.
So, onto my official suspicions of today.
So far, I am suspicious of:
HKCaper (tone of writing completely changed from last game to this game, he was townie last game. Reasons this with the fact that he wanted to not be a noob this game, but I kind of doubt that, and I really think the reason he's so different is because he has a different win condition)
Aqua (buddying with Ender, self-contradiction getting Jivvi killed, slip)
Samlen (quietness, 'vibes' [albeit small ones that are only based on like two posts since he's been so quiet])
Iggish/TWG (omg I'm so dumb, I hit ctr + f and searched Iggish earlier to find a quote and forgot about it, so when I typed Iggish here and it was highlighted, I spent way too long trying to unhighlight it, thinking I'd made the background text a different colour, wondering why it wouldn't change) - (points unusual made, and points Igg made)
I'd be happy to lynch anyone out of that list to be honest, but I do ask those voting me to unvote and consider someone else.
I mean, fog I'm pretty sure you only voted me to prove we're not a cult (which didn't work since you could easily just do that as a cult member with me) so if you'd kindly either explain why you're keeping your vote on me or unvote that'd be great
And ender obviously you're basically just voting me because my name stuck out or something so I ask you to reconsider too because I'd like to get past day 1 for once
And igg I understand you're suspicious of me but again, I'd like to ask why, because I have a feeling it's because of how differently I can come across in mafia games in comparison to the rest of the forum (because I go a bit crazy here sometimes and try to keep games active and end up being annoying in the process). Plus I encourage you to keep searching for mafia elsewhere <3
For now I'm going to unvote because I feel like my vote on HKCaper was the defensive-me acting, rather than the scum-hunting me, which is unhelpful.
Unvote
