Okay, my responses to FoSes on me first.
I'm naturally suspicious of Ender for defending Aqua, especially when he said:
Because to me that just didn't make any sense (because of what I said above) and felt like a desperate attempt at defending Aqua
It really wasn't. I thought that you being mafia was more likely than him being mafia, and I also did remember him being suspicious of TWG before the vote got divided between you and him, which, as it turns out, is true. His first mention of a FoS on TWG is on page 33, at which point he only had one vote on him, your vote. What's interesting though, is that you already used that point about a convenient vote switch back then, so I guess all three of us had valid points according to the way we saw the game.
another thing you did on day 1 was kill aqua to again bring the suspicion off you that you and aqua were teaming. This could be because you knew that Aqua was mafia (because you yourself may be mafia) and was going to be lynched and so you did not want to associate yourself with Aqua, consequently killing them off
Also with only less then one hour left until the deadline, why would you vote Aqua unless it would benefit you somehow? Makign the day 40 minutes or so shorter us a pretty shitty excuse.
it seemed a bit odd that Ender chose to switch to aqua just to save us like an hour or something. If he was so convinced TWG was mafia, it seems odd to me that he'd not wait for the possibility of someone changing their mind, and I can't help but think that he did that so that people would think "if he were mafia buddies with aqua he'd wait and see if someone changed their mind". Plus saving us like an hour didn't really do much
If I wanted to disassociate myself from Aqua, I would've switched my vote earlier, like Mulb did, and not only after making sure no one was going to switch their vote from Aqua to Weak. Trust me, I don't value Aqua enough to sacrifice my credibility just so he can live. The only reason I switched my vote in the end was because the two hour wait that would've been was an exercise in futility, as nobody was going to change their vote anyway, and it was wracking my nerves, so to prevent me from going mental while waiting, I decided to get it over with and seal the deal with Aqua, who was going to be lynched anyway.
As for the buddying up with Aqua argument, as I stated before, I have every reason to believe that Aqua was setting me up in case he died.
When you look at the posts Aqua made and the posts that I made, you'll inevitably see that, yes, it does kind of look like we were teaming. But if you look closer, you'll notice that this was constantly more apparent from Aqua's side. While I maintained that I had no opinion on Aqua whatsoever because he was acting precisely in the style he always acts in, then he was throwing around posts like these:
Enderfive analyse it for me bebe
but I love ur sexy slavic voice bby
(((((((
Say what you want about iggish or HK, but if you speak like that to me or my babe EVER again I will gut you!
(babe being me)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ENDER WHY
which make it pretty fucking obvious that he clearly wanted people to think that he supports me, what with the constant "bebe" and shit. And then he acts like I betrayed him or some shit when he gets lynched in the end. Initially I wrote it off as him simply being a friend and generally respecting my opinion, since both of those are true outside of mafia. Now, of course, it's obvious to me that this is probably what he was counting on in the first place, since now it looks pretty obvious that him and I were in kahoots with each other.
This, of course, raises the question of why? I think there are two reasons here: first reason is that I'm probably one of the easier people to do it to in this game, since I talk with him a lot anyway and am thus more inclined to believe him. Second reason is probably that I'm considered a good player for some reason and he needed some way to neutralise everything that I say, and what better way to do that than to make everyone else think I'm filthy mafia scum? I'm 100% sure that this was his plan from the beginning, in case he died, and unfortunately, due to my own preoccupation with Inf and Co., as well as the fact that I underestimated him as a player, it worked.
I don't really have anything else to say on the matter, since it's all theory and based on the fact that I am not mafia, which is something that only I know, so I'll understand if you remain in doubt, but dispelling doubt isn't really my main goal with this theory. The interesting thing is, that if we assume that the theory is correct, it opens up a few more lines of logic, that, at least in my opinion, explain fairly well some of the things that are confusing right now.
Is this just some bs strategy to take attention away from the fact that you the one buddying up to aqua in day 1?
This was the first time anyone mentioned the "buddying up" after Aqua was confirmed as scum. My first question was, what attention might you be talking about? My second question was, is this some bs strategy to take attention away from the fact that I just voted you? But most importantly, it got me thinking that if Aqua's plan had been to frame me in case he died, surely he would've told his mafia buddies of that plan so when the time came, they could set it in motion? How curious then, that the person under most suspicion at the time (due to him wanting to discuss the Vig again, which I might add, is extremely scummy in a situation where the Vig is the only PR left) would be the one to raise the question first, and not as a separate point, but as a distraction from the suspicion put on him at the time, almost like he had the argument waiting in his back pocket the whole time, just waiting for the right moment.
Secondly, Mulb voting Aqua without any particular need for it at the time. I believe this served a very particular purpose. I believe that both TWG and Aqua were mafia and Aqua was the better lynch between the two, because a) TWG would get town cred for defending Inf after Aqua's death all but cleared him, and b) Aqua's death would incriminate me. Taking that into account, Aqua would've definitely been the better lynch for the mafia, so Mulb's vote now makes sense.
I'm confused as fuck by all the stuff going on between Notty, Oog and Inf right now so when I figure anything out on that front, I'll let you know.
