The Red Scare [Game Over]

[Nottykitten]

Wait, I'll try and make it a little clearer.
Ender said that he had not responded but is now saying that he actually did.

Could you quote both of those? That'll make us understand/believe your argument more.

 

[Iggish]

and i legitimately don't get what point you're trying to make

I think you're trying to take stuff out of context to try and get me lynched.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Ohhhhh you said "valid" not "invalid" before so you confused me completely

I think I get what you're saying now but at the same time I'm not sure what it means

Also tbh I know I reacted weirdly but igg only has one vote and his reaction seems a little OTT to me but maybe that's due to other reasons?

 

[HKCaper]

And he could easily have said it as a mindgame to make him think he doesn't know aqua's role.

What 'cover' would that be though

There ya go champ, that is what I meant by 'cover'.

Ohhhhh you said "valid" not "invalid" before so you confused me completely

I think I get what you're saying now but at the same time I'm not sure what it means

Also tbh I know I reacted weirdly but igg only has one vote and his reaction seems a little OTT to me but maybe that's due to other reasons?

Who you responding to here?

 

[Iggish]

Is it just me or did Ender give a reason immediately

i didn't actually, for reasons i explained later

These reasons were to scope my reaction at bei. A seven minute window is not enough time to scope my reaction.

There were people who were suspicious of mulb yes, but it's also possible that the vig just didn't out their opinion on them so that they could nightkill them without revealing who they are, so looking at who was suspicious of mulb probably won't help us

not to mention that discussing the identity of the vig is a very clearly untownie thing to do

If he wanted my reaction, why did he then respond. He said that he didn't respond but now he is saying that he responded as it suits him better.

 

[Iggish]

These reasons were to scope my reaction at bei

These reasons were to scope my reaciton at being voted to be lynced without any justification.

 

[Iggish]

How could he scope my reactions at being voted for no reasons and then give a reason while still saying that he wanted to scope my reactions???
He's manipulating what he said to suit him and to try and lynch me, a really scummy tactic.
I'm really sorry if you don't understand what I mean but in my head I'm making sense.

 

[Ltin]

VOTECOUNT IIRC
ooglie101 [1] - Nottykitten
Iggish [1] -Enderfive
With 11 players it takes 6 to lynch and 6 to no lynch.

 

[Nottykitten]

How could he scope my reactions at being voted for no reasons and then give a reason while still saying that he wanted to scope my reactions???
He's manipulating what he said to suit him and to try and lynch me, a really scummy tactic.
I'm really sorry if you don't understand what I mean but in my head I'm making sense.

Ender will probs tell you all about it, but I think it might have something to do with the fact that you still reacted as if he voted you with no reason so thats how he can 'scope your reaction'. He's really not manipulating anything your argument seems all over the place to be honest.

 

[Enderfive]

I think you're trying to take stuff out of context to try and get me lynched.

bloody hell, let me reiterate my reasons for voting you

i voted you because you were still pushing for the vig identity and i wanted to put pressure on you to see what you'd d

now let me reiterate my reasons for thinking you're scum:

This was the first time anyone mentioned the "buddying up" after Aqua was confirmed as scum. My first question was, what attention might you be talking about? My second question was, is this some bs strategy to take attention away from the fact that I just voted you? But most importantly, it got me thinking that if Aqua's plan had been to frame me in case he died, surely he would've told his mafia buddies of that plan so when the time came, they could set it in motion? How curious then, that the person under most suspicion at the time (due to him wanting to discuss the Vig again, which I might add, is extremely scummy in a situation where the Vig is the only PR left) would be the one to raise the question first, and not as a separate point, but as a distraction from the suspicion put on him at the time, almost like he had the argument waiting in his back pocket the whole time, just waiting for the right moment.

the way he's been trying to discuss the identity of the vig + the way he had the argument against me ready to be used, as i described in my last post

two different things


as for this:

How could he scope my reactions at being voted for no reasons and then give a reason while still saying that he wanted to scope my reactions???
He's manipulating what he said to suit him and to try and lynch me, a really scummy tactic.
I'm really sorry if you don't understand what I mean but in my head I'm making sense.

no, i wanted to see your reaction, period, that's why i didn't say i was reactiontesting you, that's the reason i didn't give when voting

whether or not you knew about the vig reason is completely irrelevant to this

 

[Infected_alien8_]

There ya go champ, that is what I meant by 'cover'.


Who you responding to here?

Ok thanks champ but that still doesn't answer my question about how Ender links into it all. I understand how iggy could have used a mindgame and as you know, said that myself, but what you've said that I do not understand is how Ender links to it.

And I was talking to iggy in my last point

 

[Iggish]

no, i wanted to see your reaction, period, that's why i didn't say i was reactiontesting you, that's the reason i didn't give when voting

whether or not you knew about the vig reason is completely irrelevant to this

So, anyone have any further suspicions atm as a consequence of the aqua lynch and the night kills?

If you were reaction testing me then why did you give your reason for voting against me less then 10 minutes later? During that timeframe, the only message I posted is the oone right above this text asking for suspicions and opinions. How is that enough time to scope a reaction???? especially when I didn't even respond to you voting against me in that timeframe?????

 

[Enderfive]

If you were reaction testing me then why did you give your reason for voting against me less then 10 minutes later? During that timeframe, the only message I posted is the oone right above this text asking for suspicions and opinions. How is that enough time to scope a reaction???? especially when I didn't even respond to you voting against me in that timeframe?????

whether or not you knew about the vig reason is completely irrelevant to this

 

[Iggish]

By you giving a reason for voting against me and also saying that you were reaction testing me can not exist at the same time. This is what I mean when I say he is manipulating it against me.

 

[HKCaper]

Ok thanks champ but that still doesn't answer my question about how Ender links into it all. I understand how iggy could have used a mindgame and as you know, said that myself, but what you've said that I do not understand is how Ender links to it.

The link to Ender is the same as the whole Ender buddying with Aqua thing, since Ender also responded to Iggy's claims in the same way Aqua did.

 

[Iggish]

whether or not you knew about the vig reason is completely irrelevant to this

True, but it is relevant to your credibilty and the fact that you have two points against me at the moment which cannot co-exist and you have not withdrawn either point.

 

[HKCaper]

I love how Iggy and Ender seem to be having a discussion, and at the same time Inffy and I are having another discussion about them.

 

[Enderfive]

cannot co-exist

 

[Infected_alien8_]

The link to Ender is the same as the whole Ender buddying with Aqua thing, since Ender also responded to Iggy's claims in the same way Aqua did.

But just because Ender told iggy not to talk about the vigilante how does that make it so that if iggy was mindgaming, Ender has to be in on it? Like what's the path that connects them?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

By you giving a reason for voting against me and also saying that you were reaction testing me can not exist at the same time. This is what I mean when I say he is manipulating it against me.

Why can't theu both exist though

 

[HKCaper]

But just because Ender told iggy not to talk about the vigilante how does that make it so that if iggy was mindgaming, Ender has to be in on it? Like what's the path that connects them?

I can't believe we are still discussing this, but here we go. For 1 reason and 1 reason alone, because Ender immediately responded to it pointing out Ender's mistake. The more we are discussing this the more I agree with the point I made about this theory in my og post. This theory is bs. At this point I am not even trying to convince you of anything, just explaining questionable things I said.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I can't believe we are still discussing this, but here we go. For 1 reason and 1 reason alone, because Ender immediately responded to it pointing out Ender's mistake. The more we are discussing this the more I agree with the point I made about this theory in my og post. This theory is bs. At this point I am not even trying to convince you of anything, just explaining questionable things I said.

Assuming you meant to say "iggish's mistake" and not Ender, I don't see how that makes sense but if I'm understanding you correctly, neither do you? So what do you think? What points were the ones you made that you now agree with?

 

[HKCaper]

Yes indeed I meant "Iggy's mistake", pff starting to make stupid mistakes it seems, since I am getting fed up with this conversation (not your fault, 100% my own dumb fault)

This is what I originally said.

unless Ender/Aqua set him up to this, since they were the ones to point out the mistake Iggish made, but that is too much of a conspiracy theory to actually be possible

I just do not know what to say anymore about this whole thing at this point. I only noticed how Iggy mentioned the vig, and both Ender and Aqua jumped on top of it pointing out how dumb it was to say those things. That is all, for the rest I am putting this topic on pause for now, if you still want to discuss it, tag me tomorow.

 

[Iggish]

Why can't theu both exist though

Because they are contradicting each other.
On one hand ender is saying that he wanted to reaction test me. Now I'm sure you'll agree that to reaction test someone, you don't give the reason for voting them 10 minutes later.
On the other hand he says he gave a reason (10 minutes later) which explained why he voted me.

 

[Enderfive]

Now I'm sure you'll agree that to reaction test someone, you don't give the reason for voting them 10 minutes later.

i don't agree

i wasn't reactiontesting you for what you'd say after you were voted for no reason, i was reactiontesting you for what youd say after you were voted