Trouble in the West: Pirates vs Cowboys [Finished]

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To be fair, Swate did behave pretty much exactly like this in Plane Troubles. In which he was a member of the mafia.
Meta and playstyles aside, Swate seems more like mafia to me than Oak. And if we really do look at meta and playstyles, it kinda supports my theory as well, as you just said, so...

I'd still like to hear what he has to say in response to my first post of the day, but it seems he's taken off for the night (I believe he lives in Australia or NZ or some similar timezone, so we might not hear from him until tomorrow).
 

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Meta and playstyles aside, Swate seems more like mafia to me than Oak. And if we really do look at meta and playstyles, it kinda supports my theory as well, as you just said, so...

I'd still like to hear what he has to say in response to my first post of the day, but it seems he's taken off for the night (I believe he lives in Australia or NZ or some similar timezone, so we might not hear from him until tomorrow).
Then why is
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I'm sorry but the fuck was that, those last few messages about items were really odd, why were we trying to figure out who had items? If a town person has a useful item, I'd rather not everyone have knowledge of this. The only outcome would be that anti-town would know who were threats to them.

And the whole "that didnt happen" nonsense is getting real shady tbh. First with Swate and now Fiesta. Mhmm no mam I aint about that life.
 

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I'm sorry but the fuck was that, those last few messages about items were really odd, why were we trying to figure out who had items? If a town person has a useful item, I'd rather not everyone have knowledge of this. The only outcome would be that anti-town would know who were threats to them.

And the whole "that didnt happen" nonsense is getting real shady tbh. First with Swate and now Fiesta. Mhmm no mam I aint about that life.
As said. I miswrote a sentence and this happened. Also "This never happened" was more of a lighter joke-sentence for "Let's discard this horrible idea"
 

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I'm sorry but the fuck was that, those last few messages about items were really odd, why were we trying to figure out who had items? If a town person has a useful item, I'd rather not everyone have knowledge of this. The only outcome would be that anti-town would know who were threats to them.

And the whole "that didnt happen" nonsense is getting real shady tbh. First with Swate and now Fiesta. Mhmm no mam I aint about that life.
My original idea was to have just a couple of players who had insignificant items to claim, if there were any, to see if the setup was item-heavy. In a setup revolving around items, less important/useful items would be more common, much unlike the highly scarce Bomb Cake, Cursed Night, and Bulletproof Vests from last game that you're thinking of.
 

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It's 8.15pm for Oak and I.

Also I have to eat dinner in one minute but after I finish I will probably be voting Fiesta for complete anti town plans and undermining my completely town-sided plan.
And Jivvi is suspicious to me too.
Care to elaborate Why Jivvi is suspicious?

Furthermore. As said, I miswrote a sentence making the plan look entirely different.
 

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Ok, so we lost our Roleblocker and there might be an Arsonist running around. Great. I'm completely devoid of any new ideas at this point, might go over the thread again and see if anything seems remotely suspicious.

I would like to point out, however, that @Swate is still the most suspicious person to me at this moment. He was very shifty with his votes yesterday, going with whatever was the popular opinion at the time and if any accusations were made against him, he brushed them off as "dumb" or similar, making sure to discredit the accusation without providing any actual logic or proof behind his statement. And he's doing the same thing again today, when Hype came up with a small and uncertain theory that Swate may be the Arsonist, he immediately brushes it off by saying "It's a very shallow accusation and I have lots of proof that I can't be it" without actually providing any proof, instead he just moves on to some math that has relatively little importance to us right now, and which can't be proved in any way at this moment in any case, because it's just too early to make such assumptions, as Jeercrul already pointed out.

And while I'm at it, I may also point out this:

When talking about the mafia's resources. May be a slip, idk. Since I don't have any other suspicions at this moment, I'm gonna vote him. Feel free to convince me otherwise or come up with a more solid suspicion. I don't even expect anyone to follow my vote, I'm just putting it out there for everyone to think about.

vote Swate
@ your resource question, that was not a slip-up, it was a legit answer. What other resources do you think Jivvi meant? ._. I was answering him:

Like I said, this is a glorious waste of time and resources the mafia may not have
Ah shit, I just realised I didn't read Jivvi's comment right. I'm being serious ;-; fuck I've gone and dug a good hole now. I thought he meant we were wasting our, the town's, resources, which I didn't understand so I replied with "what do you mean, our resources?" and cited possible 'resources' he was referring to. I managed to completely uighsdihfdsns skip the 'the mafia may not have' bit. Furk furkidyfybugsbfsa. anyway...

Where the heck did I say I had heaps of proof of me not being Arsonist? I said I had just as much proof of not being Arsonist as Hype had for me being Arsonist: none.

That's a really shallow accusation and you know it xP I ain't no arsonist, I've got just as much proof for my defense as you do for your accusation.
As for my "shifty behaviour" on day one, that was me being a paranoid rookie. I felt like everyone was ganging up on me for no reason, which it legit was in the beginning, and I started panicking that I would be lynched. I really wanted to play a full good game with good people but they were proving jokes so I got a little stressed.

God, looking at myself I really do look shifty as all hell. I am sorry, I'm not Mafia .-. I'm just screwing up left, right and center.
 

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Since I've been called out as suspicious to 77, I'll take the chance to brush up on my self-defence.

First of all, please take note: I was not trying to out all items, merely to determine if the setup was item-based.
-This was inflated by Fiesta's efforts to help

If the setup was item-based, there would be numerous small-time items; one that scarcely mattered. One or two of these was all that as really needed to determine.
I specifically stated that it would be complete folly to claim if you had an item that would attract attention to yourself.

The benefits of knowing if a setup is item-based are numerous
- We know that likely mafia roles include the Thief and the Saboteur
- We know to be careful with potentially sabotaged items
- We know that an Anarchist or Creepy Girl or similar 3P role could exist
- We know that a Baker could be in play as well

Since it's highly unlikely that this is an item-based setup, most of these possibilities are greatly unlikely.
Working this out was my goal in the little questionnaire; please don't pin me down for Fiesta's misinterpretations that he then belted down everyone's throats.

Also, to the people who will undoubtedly jump on me for preparing a massive defence for a little FOS, you'll soon learn that this is pretty much my default for keeping out of the lynchable limelight.
 

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I'm not convinced. My vote stays, the rest can figure things out for themselves.
Bah, go ahead then. I'm not an anti-town role, and you're simply hurting both yourself and the rest of the town.

That didn't sound right.
Shouldn't the entire town help each other and now "Have them figure it out for 'emselves"
Exactly. Though I get the vibe he's only keeping his vote on me because there's no-one else he has any dough on.
 

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Meta and playstyles aside, Swate seems more like mafia to me than Oak. And if we really do look at meta and playstyles, it kinda supports my theory as well, as you just said, so...

I'd still like to hear what he has to say in response to my first post of the day, but it seems he's taken off for the night (I believe he lives in Australia or NZ or some similar timezone, so we might not hear from him until tomorrow).
This is the thing though, I'm talkative as all hell unless I'm asleep or somewhere where I don't have internet. I only seem more suspicious because I've been talking more. Oak hasn't said awfully much compared to me, so your 'seems more like mafia' approach is biased towards my talkativity.
 

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This is the thing though, I'm talkative as all hell unless I'm asleep or somewhere where I don't have internet. I only seem more suspicious because I've been talking more. Oak hasn't said awfully much compared to me, so your 'seems more like mafia' approach is biased towards my talkativity.
Not "only," sorry, poor word choice. It's a contributing factor is what I meant.
 
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