ZUPLAR INVASION - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
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Pinks claim was kind of out of nowhere early on, and pink has claimed an investigative role that has only provided one useful piece of info (the existence of the president role) so there are some reasons to suspect pink right now. But more importantly, we are trying to narrow down a mafia member amongst those claims whose alignments aren't confirmed, and narrowing down the list of who to lyn
Also, after having some time to think about it I'm going to agree that ltin isn't likely to flip scum.
It also occurs to me that the assumption that there are only 3 mafia is rediculous. Having 3 mafia in a 14 player game seems unbalanced unless the third party is incredibly dangerous. There's been no evidence of an incredibly dangerous 3rd party considering Hipman's win condition was to be alive at the end of the game and he couldn't kill anyone. So I suspect that we should assume there are 4 mafia.
Real quick I just want to restate the people we have who are confirmed innocent and those who are not:
Completely confirmed:
Nottykitten - confirmed innocent by TWG's claim
TWG- confirmed innocent by Vino's vision.
Unusual_dood - the mafia already had a roleblocker so it wouldn't make sense, plus his role gives the town investigations, so there is no way he is mafia aligned.
me - why would the mafia have a gunsmith?
That leaves 5 left in the could be mafia pile:
Pink
Mulbery
Ltin
Iggish
Foggy.
as I said above I honestly don't think the mafia would have 3 people, so It's most likely there are 2 mafia in this list.
Thinking about I don't think it's ever a good play strategy to lynch someone who's probably innocent, so I think we should take Ltin off this list, and I think we shouldn't aim for foggy since we know there is at least 1 mafia who isn't him (not just from me suspecting there are 2 mafia, but from him being roleblocked last night). That leaves us with Mulbery, pink, and Iggish. If we make sure to have Iggish shoot someone then they will be roleblocked tonight. If we then have Unusual_Dood visit Foggy tonight he will also be roleblocked. So if we shoot pink today that would leave mulbery as the only possible person to carry out the mafia night kill. This means that if we execute this plan and there is still a night kill then we lynch mulbery. And if there is none we can be suspicious of Iggish and foggy as being a mafia team.
I know you guys are going to ask: but what if the mafia decide not to kill anyone? Then we wake up tomorrow with a report from Mul, and a hallucination from foggy with Unusual dood still alive, and we'd still have one person to shoot and one person to kill on a slightly smaller suspect list.
There is literally no downside to this plan!
It also occurs to me that the assumption that there are only 3 mafia is rediculous. Having 3 mafia in a 14 player game seems unbalanced unless the third party is incredibly dangerous. There's been no evidence of an incredibly dangerous 3rd party considering Hipman's win condition was to be alive at the end of the game and he couldn't kill anyone. So I suspect that we should assume there are 4 mafia.
Real quick I just want to restate the people we have who are confirmed innocent and those who are not:
Completely confirmed:
Nottykitten - confirmed innocent by TWG's claim
TWG- confirmed innocent by Vino's vision.
Unusual_dood - the mafia already had a roleblocker so it wouldn't make sense, plus his role gives the town investigations, so there is no way he is mafia aligned.
me - why would the mafia have a gunsmith?
That leaves 5 left in the could be mafia pile:
Pink
Mulbery
Ltin
Iggish
Foggy.
as I said above I honestly don't think the mafia would have 3 people, so It's most likely there are 2 mafia in this list.
Thinking about I don't think it's ever a good play strategy to lynch someone who's probably innocent, so I think we should take Ltin off this list, and I think we shouldn't aim for foggy since we know there is at least 1 mafia who isn't him (not just from me suspecting there are 2 mafia, but from him being roleblocked last night). That leaves us with Mulbery, pink, and Iggish. If we make sure to have Iggish shoot someone then they will be roleblocked tonight. If we then have Unusual_Dood visit Foggy tonight he will also be roleblocked. So if we shoot pink today that would leave mulbery as the only possible person to carry out the mafia night kill. This means that if we execute this plan and there is still a night kill then we lynch mulbery. And if there is none we can be suspicious of Iggish and foggy as being a mafia team.
I know you guys are going to ask: but what if the mafia decide not to kill anyone? Then we wake up tomorrow with a report from Mul, and a hallucination from foggy with Unusual dood still alive, and we'd still have one person to shoot and one person to kill on a slightly smaller suspect list.
There is literally no downside to this plan!
@weak/notty can you both be 100% certain of the innocence of each other?
I'm convinced at least one of those two are baddies.
Night one notty dismissed that idea, but she was also fairly certain the Mafia were aliens despite no real evidence for that (not really very solid evidence, IK). One of them being aliens (notty especially) would also explain how they could unravel the encrypted alien language (which isn't really a language but rather scrambled English with a different alphabet, which is also not solid evidence).
My point is notty isnt confirmed either.
I'm convinced at least one of those two are baddies.
Night one notty dismissed that idea, but she was also fairly certain the Mafia were aliens despite no real evidence for that (not really very solid evidence, IK). One of them being aliens (notty especially) would also explain how they could unravel the encrypted alien language (which isn't really a language but rather scrambled English with a different alphabet, which is also not solid evidence).
My point is notty isnt confirmed either.
Pink is playing a solid lurker game and not even pretending to hide it. Look at her posts. She's made 11 entire posts this game. None of them have been more than 3 sentences. Not one of them has even looked like she's even trying to show interest in figuring out who is mafia. It just screams confused mafia who's not really sure how to progress the game.
This game has no vanilla townies, so I'd find it weird if it had vanilla mafia either. Obviously pink knew of the existence of the president, but it seems odd to me that there would be an investigative role like that which just gave flavored role titles and no alignment information.
It's quite possible she is a mafia investigative role.
I think you might be right to ask weak again if he could be certain notty was town. I look forward to his answer.
This game has no vanilla townies, so I'd find it weird if it had vanilla mafia either. Obviously pink knew of the existence of the president, but it seems odd to me that there would be an investigative role like that which just gave flavored role titles and no alignment information.
It's quite possible she is a mafia investigative role.
I think you might be right to ask weak again if he could be certain notty was town. I look forward to his answer.
I suggest:
- Iggish shoots Pink
- We lynch Pink
- I role block someone (wont tell who)
If Pink was correct about her role, I find Muls list of killer suspects reliable.
If someone gets killed this night Iggish and the person I role blocked is proven to not be the killer.
I think its a good idea even if Pink is townie, because we can decrease our suspect list by 3 if mafias execute their kill. If not, we have gathered much information with only the loss of one townie
- Iggish shoots Pink
- We lynch Pink
- I role block someone (wont tell who)
If Pink was correct about her role, I find Muls list of killer suspects reliable.
If someone gets killed this night Iggish and the person I role blocked is proven to not be the killer.
I think its a good idea even if Pink is townie, because we can decrease our suspect list by 3 if mafias execute their kill. If not, we have gathered much information with only the loss of one townie
I'm pretty certain thar Notty is Inno. Night 0 she was visited by the Devil (hip) and she lost her ability. Day 1 she manually translated the 3 lines, which I later confirmed were right. So yeah, I don't think shes mafia
The reason Why I don't post often is because you guys are mostly active when I am asleep, and when I read all of your posts I don't have anything to say besides just agree.
So you go ahead lynch me But I don't think it would be useful.
So you go ahead lynch me But I don't think it would be useful.
I'm confused.
Why are we both lynching pink and shooting her?
If we lynch someone else and unu blocks pink and we/you are wrong our suspect list will still be lowered by 3, but there is a more likely chance a scum will die.
Why are we both lynching pink and shooting her?
If we lynch someone else and unu blocks pink and we/you are wrong our suspect list will still be lowered by 3, but there is a more likely chance a scum will die.
Yes
We are not getting anywhere right now. Tbh I think Iggish should just shoot who he believes is the mafia, out of this list: mulbery, ltin, foggy and pink
Then we should start voting on one of these: iggish, mulbery, ltin, foggy, pink
Then we should start voting on one of these: iggish, mulbery, ltin, foggy, pink
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Yeah I guess the best thing to do is have Iggish choose one from the following list: Mul and Pink, and we'll decide who to lynch after. And I excluded Foggy/Ltin because Ltin is proven to have used his action last night and Foggy got roleblocked.