ZUPLAR INVASION - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

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I wanted to make a table just to make things clearer for myself, so here you go:
(I feel like I might've missed a few things especially with the names so tell me if I left anything out)

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{tbody}
{tr=@x14}
{td=bcolor:#e68585|93x14}Name{/td}
{td=bcolor:#e68585|93x14}Claimed Name{/td}
{td=bcolor:#e68585|@x14}Claimed Role{/td}
{td=bcolor:#e68585|@x14}Misc{/td}
{td=bcolor:#e68585|93x14}Role Confirmed?{/td}
{td=bcolor:#e68585|93x14}Town Confirmed?{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=60x40}Foggy2406{/td}
{td=60x40} {/td}
{td=60x40}The Alien Hacker{/td}
{td=130x40} {/td}
{td=bcolor:#bef7cc|130x40}Probably; by posting Mafia Chat Messages{/td}
{td=bcolor:#ffb0b0|130x40}Inconclusive; evidence can be fabricated by Mafia{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=60x@}Nottykitten{/td}
{td=60x@} {/td}
{td=60x@}Scribe{/td}
{td=130x@}Knew that Weak was scribe as well{/td}
{td=bcolor:#98edd1|130x@}Yes; by Weak{/td}
{td=bcolor:#bef7cc|130x40}Probably; doesn't make sense to have an alien scribe{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=60x40}Ltin{/td}
{td=60x40} {/td}
{td=60x40}(the) Journalist{/td}
{td=130x40} {/td}
{td=bcolor:#98edd1|130x40}Yes; by confirmation from night targets{/td}
{td=bcolor:#bef7cc|130x40}Probably; doesn't make sense for mafia to have such a role{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=60x40}myusername22{/td}
{td=60x40}Barney Baxter{/td}
{td=60x40}(the) Gun Dealer{/td}
{td=130x40} {/td}
{td=bcolor:#98edd1|130x40}Yes; by gunning Fog and Iggy and lack of CC{/td}
{td=bcolor:#bef7cc|130x40}Probably; if it were Mafia it wouldn't be optimal to give gun to non-mafia{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=60x40}Mulbery{/td}
{td=60x40} {/td}
{td=60x40}Tracker Dog{/td}
{td=130x40}woof{/td}
{td=bcolor:#98edd1|130x40}Yes; by Vino's death report returning watcher{/td}
{td=bcolor:#bef7cc|130x40}Probably; role action would be useless if it were anti-town{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=60x40}PinkUnicornz{/td}
{td=60x40} {/td}
{td=60x40}(the) prophet{/td}
{td=130x40}God's name is "Bakatha"{/td}
{td=bcolor:#98edd1|130x40}Yes; by President Prediction{/td}
{td=bcolor:#ffb0b0|130x40}Inconclusive; evidence can be fabricated by mafia investigative role{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=60x40}Unusual_Dood{/td}
{td=60x40} {/td}
{td=60x40}Drug Dealer{/td}
{td=130x40} {/td}
{td=bcolor:#98edd1|130x40}Yes; by Vino's Hallucination{/td}
{td=bcolor:#bef7cc|130x40}Probably; by Ooglie's death report returning Mafia RB{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=60x40}TheWeakGuy48_{/td}
{td=60x40} {/td}
{td=60x40}Scribe{/td}
{td=130x40}Knew that Notty was scribe as well{/td}
{td=bcolor:#98edd1|130x40}Yes; by Notty{/td}
{td=bcolor:#bef7cc|130x40}Probably; by Vino's Dream{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x40}
{td=60x40}Iggish{/td}
{td=60x40} {/td}
{td=60x40}The President{/td}
{td=130x40} {/td}
{td=bcolor:#98edd1|130x40}Yes; by president announcements{/td}
{td=bcolor:#bef7cc|130x40}Probably; doesn't make sense for mafia to have such a role{/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
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There are some things in the table I have to explain:

  • The claimed role names are written exactly as they were claimed in their original posts, with the exception of Weak being a scribe because Notty had already claimed that. When the word "The" is capitalised or in bold, I assume that they are part of the role name; otherwise if during the claiming process if a "the" that isn't in bold or capitalized is appended before the role name, it is not clear and added in parantheses.
  • Foggy is the only person whose role is not confirmed because it can easily be fabricated and there is no concrete evidence; he is hence listed as "probably".

I do have a few doubts regarding a few roles though:

The Alien Hacker:
  • The Alien Hacker: Of all roles this is the one that is the most suspicious because of the way it was claimed, as well as the nature of the role itself; there is no solid evidence that would suggest that such a role exists as opposed to every other role that has been claimed in the game. The way foggy claimed the role just struck as extremely odd to me - he claimed his role, then immediately followed up with "but... (my role has been useless)" instead of what someone would logically do (i.e. share what information they have). The role name itself is suspicious because it doesn't follow the style that every other role name follows (i.e. No "the" if the role name already consists of two words)
  • The main argument was that Foggy shot Ooglie, and that he was jailed so the kill last night has nothing to do with him; however, I still have my doubts, because given a 4-player mafia team, there is a chance of him being mafia.
Scribe:
  • I was pretty sure Notty was town until it was revealed that Weak was scribe as well and that apparently they knew the existence of each other. The question that I had in mind was, why do we need two scribes? I thought about the theme and the back story of the game and it kinda makes sense that a scribe would naturally belong to the human race, attempting to decipher the alien alphabet. But having two scribes in the circle is just very odd.

Prophet:
  • Could be a mafia investigative role, though I'm hesitant to say that she's mafia because she's been willing to share all the information which from the mafia perspective isn't optimal. God's name is "Bakatha", which sounds alienish, closest thing Google could churn out was a couple of facebook profiles, and I'm not sure what to make of that.

Something about having two scribes just doesn't seem right to me. I don't know, but someone's gotta point that out. Why do we need two scribes when they do the same thing?

That aside, I do have a bad feeling of killing off the prophet, though it does make sense given how you can't really prove her alignment or her role and I have my doubts. It does seem like shooting pink is what we can do now; I am hesitant, but at the same time I am doubtful.

As for suggestions that I be killed: I do realise that I didn't do anything yesterday, but I have already defended myself and I am willing to answer any questions y'all would throw at me. I will repeat what I have said again: My role would be useless if I were anti-town - I am definitely town-aligned and my night action to investigate deaths benefits town and town only; I have proven that Vino wasn't lying and it's not beneficial to town if I die tomorrow. I might be killed by mafia, but it's better than being shot or lynched by town.

Also sorry for the long post - I just wanted to dump all my thoughts into one place, and at the same time defend myself again because people have been suggesting that I be killed again which I am not a fan of.
 
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K, I have to go somewhere with no wifi for the next few days but I should be able to kind of keep updated with data (rip data) but regardless, I want to hurry this along.
I'm going to shoot Mulbery as I agree with what other people have said for the moment, that's it's between Mulb and Pink. I think killing Mulb is less risky as pink is less active and so mulb is more of a threat. While it can be argued that Mul's role can benefit the town more, I just believe that this is the safer option.

(woof)
 
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*sigh*

Expect a few more essays soon because I have a few things to say, woof. As of now, I want to point something out that I never noticed until just now:

If you look at Ender's death message, it mentions how his role allows him to heal. From the current list of claimed roles, it seems that the healing component applies only to the wounded who has been shot by the gun dealer. I'm not very certain why there would be one town role that has the ability to reverse the actions of another, so I'd like to point this out.
 
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-Moments Later-

An alarm goes off. Guards rush in to find Iggish holding the gun. They seize the gun and secure the area. They turn to Iggish.

"You're under arrest for carrying and firing illegal weaponry. You can stay here for the rest of the day under our supervision, but tonight, it's the jail-cell for you."

The alarms quieten, and the guards - all but one, who waits to escort Iggish to Jail that night, leave, and the day resumes.
 
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Just clarified with Inffy that I can still post here, so I'll go on with my usual scum-hunting and keep posting before the night ends of anything that comes to mind. I do feel as if my inevitable death gives me the liberty to suggest ideas that are slightly more imaginative or absurd.

(woof)
 
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Okay there is 1 thing that annoys me, which is:
myusername22 said:
We just need to agree on someone to kill. I suggest pink
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I find that Myuser wants me dead to badly, since he only wants me to look bad infront of everyone for no reason. (Or I am just paranoid).
Ltin said:
Not one of them has even looked like she's even trying to show interest in figuring out who is mafia. It just screams confused mafia who's not really sure how to progress the game.
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If I really am mafia, do you really think I would just lurk and make myself a suspect? If I was mafia I would have a reason to be even more active to make other people look suspicious, like you do with me.
Ltin said:
Also pink was able to tell us of a role that existed before that person claimed. That isn't a very good tactic for the mafia.
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Isn't that the reason why the mafia would want me dead tho?
 
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Nottykitten said:
Yeah I guess the best thing to do is have Iggish choose one from the following list: Mul and Pink, and we'll decide who to lynch after. And I excluded Foggy/Ltin because Ltin is proven to have used his action last night and Foggy got roleblocked.
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This option is reasonable, and this is also what I suggest doing, but I strongly advise against shooting mul.
 
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Imma just list mafia team combinations that I think are possible.

4-player mafia teams:

HK, Oog, Fog, Myu
Fog is falsely claiming hacker; Myu's role is mafia-sided. Might be slightly imbalanced towards mafia but town has more than enough PRs to balance that out.

HK, Oog, Fog, Pink
Fog is falsely claiming hacker; Pink is falsely claiming prophet and is actually a mafia role that has the ability to gather role info.

HK, Oog, Fog, Weak
Fog is falsely claiming hacker; Weak is alien scribe because it doesn't make sense to have two scribes - Weak is slightly more suspicious because Notty has been roleblocked by Oog. Of all combinations, I am leaning towards this.


3-player mafia teams:

HK, Oog, Myu
Same as above.

HK, Oog, Pink
Same as above.

HK, Oog, Weak
Same as above. I am more inclined to believe that there are 4 mafia members, not three. Plus, I am basically 95% sure "The Alien Hacker" is just nonsense.

I am pretty sure both Iggy and Ltin are town. I don't want to rule out the possibilities of Unu and Notty being Anti-town, but I do believe the things I've listed above are more probable.

(woof)
 
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At this moment, I would strongly advice against lynching Pink because there are mafia candidates with far higher chances of being mafia than her. I understand that Fog was blocked from doing anything last night, but his role claim is just way too fishy to dismiss. So for now I'd like to get more outta Fog and I'll do so by first voting for him:

vote Foggy2406

Also can the rest of y'all who've been quiet all this time speak up, woof? Just say who you're suspicious of right now, and write down your potential mafia teams ;3
 
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Also since all of us have claimed our roles but none of us have revealed our names, we could just do that now since that might be useful, woof? I'll start with myself - "Good Boy".

(who on earth names their dog "Good boy", Infected_alien8_?!)
 
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Mulbery said:
Imma just list mafia team combinations that I think are possible.

4-player mafia teams:

HK, Oog, Fog, Myu
Fog is falsely claiming hacker; Myu's role is mafia-sided. Might be slightly imbalanced towards mafia but town has more than enough PRs to balance that out.

HK, Oog, Fog, Pink
Fog is falsely claiming hacker; Pink is falsely claiming prophet and is actually a mafia role that has the ability to gather role info.

HK, Oog, Fog, Weak
Fog is falsely claiming hacker; Weak is alien scribe because it doesn't make sense to have two scribes - Weak is slightly more suspicious because Notty has been roleblocked by Oog. Of all combinations, I am leaning towards this.


3-player mafia teams:

HK, Oog, Myu
Same as above.

HK, Oog, Pink
Same as above.

HK, Oog, Weak
Same as above. I am more inclined to believe that there are 4 mafia members, not three. Plus, I am basically 95% sure "The Alien Hacker" is just nonsense.

I am pretty sure both Iggy and Ltin are town. I don't want to rule out the possibilities of Unu and Notty being Anti-town, but I do believe the things I've listed above are more probable.

(woof)
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But isn't TWG 'confirmed' town by Vino?
 
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Foggy2406 said:
But isn't TWG 'confirmed' town by Vino?
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It depends on how you interpret the alien texts, which I don't think we should be relying on because firstly it's from the aliens, and secondly it's just too vague.

I do want to ask you a few questions:
- Why did you reveal your role so late?
- What were your impressions of the quotes you received?
- Mafia - three members or four? Who could possibly be in it?

(woof. I wish autocorrect would stop correcting that to wood)
 
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I know I'm jumping around a lot which I'd imagine looks suspicious to a lot of you, but I feel like in pursuing this last course of action we've been almost intentionally overlooking a lot of important details. I disagree with lynching pink at this moment. I have some things I'd like to look into, but I will not have time to fully look through them before work, so hopefully I will have a theory later in the day. For now I will keep my vote on No-lynch, as I feel that's still an option today.
 
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My name is Sasha Winters(I said it earlier but whatever). The alien language is called Arcadia. With a quick google search I found out that it is a region in Greece and once had its own language(Arcado-Cypriot). But I doubt that this actually is important to the game and unless some of us are fluent in this language its really not useful (also the alien language is not like arcado-cypriot)
 
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Mulbery said:
I do want to ask you a few questions:
- Why did you reveal your role so late?
- What were your impressions of the quotes you received?
- Mafia - three members or four? Who could possibly be in it?
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1) I didn't really want to reveal my role, one because the information I had I didn't find too useful, also if I was hoping if I waited I would receive something useful and was worried claiming would get me night killed / make mafia more careful in chat/ plant information. Also as I have said earlier #massclaim upset me last game and I didn't want to potentially ruin Inffy's game if I didn't need to.

2) I personally didn't really get much out of the quotes which is one of the reasons I didn't claim.

3) HK, Oog, Ltin (he seems suspicious to me perhaps can learn a role by visiting?), Pink (mainly because everybody else thinks she(?) is evil)

But I don't trust Notty but that's just because I don't ever trust her...she's hurt me one too many times
 
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