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Oak Milk

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I'd wait. BUT I KILL YOU D=
I will vote Old_Man_Oak_63.
Because you kill me on zombie :_:

But also because theres a 50/50 shot of you being the serial killer. theres a 33% chance that defiant is the mafia. Meaning that you have higher chances of being bad. Plus I dont think defiant is bad.

Yes, it looks like I am rushing into things. But I gave this alot of thought. And it seemed the best option to me.
Why keep my option before me if I can show everyone by voting? =3

"Its more likely that I am an elite civilian" makes no sense to me. Since its a 50% chance, its not more likely. If anything it makes you more suspicious to me. Another reason I voted for you.


What I think is that you are the true serial killer, and attacked defiant this night. Which failed and you are now trying to find a way to lynch him at day. I also want to say that you are trying to take suspicion of youself by trying to give us other irrelevant leads. But anyone would have done that, so that doesn't make you more suspicious than you are already.
For a start there is 2 elite civilians so technically you have a 33% chance of me actually being the seriel killer, which im not, not only that you still managed to dodge the rest of my argument, that you should look to the reasons behind the attacks to figure out who attacked who and why, the fact that you ignore this and rush to make your vote against me still makes me worry. Not only that, it was more than just Blob I was suspicious of, at the very start I was also questioning of nitasu and dessern's motives about revealing the detective so early although this was quickly quelled when Defiant claimed the role of detective, while I am questioning of Blob's motives from your early arguments it could still go either way, he could be a mob member, or a civilian protecting our power roles, but sometimes the most obvious choices aren't the correct ones and lynching me in the hopes that I may be the seriel killer is definately the wrong one.
 

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I wish I knew who attacked me.
Ask me any questions you want, I'll gladly answer.

While we wait, I'll provide some info:

If I am civilian, I claimed the role for the purpose Harmak mentioned earlier. I wanted to make sure no nonsense random lynching occurred. As well, as you can see it saved someone from dying as killer/mafia targeted me. The doctor WIFOM'd successfully, and we have one less death because of it.

If I am doctor, I claimed the role for the aforementioned reasons as well as hoping the mafia would fall for the WIFOM and attack me while I saved myself.

If I am cop, then I probably retracted to make it seem less like I'm cop, while I gather reports, since mafia and killer would believe I'm simply a citizen or so.

The rest of the town roles would follow the same reasoning as Citizen, except Elite Citizen which would be to hope Mafia shot me.

Also, I am led to believe Killer shot me. Mafia tends to be more strategic with their kills and think on it more while taking less risks, while serial killer isn't as strategic seeing as everyone is an enemy in his eyes and therefore would kill mafia /or/ town and doesn't care as much if his kills are risky. I can still be wrong.

If Mafia did shoot me, and vig killed, then that means Oak is Killer.

This isn't exactly helpful though, seeing as we don't have Mafia claiming.
 

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I did not know that there were 2 elite civilians. [Damnit].
But that still doesnt change my mind. I still think that at the moment you are the most suspicious.
Even more now because of this post 3 posts above me that I find odd and suspicious.

I wont change my vote unless someone [else] has a really good argument or there is evidence of a better suspect.
 

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I did not know that there were 2 elite civilians. [Damnit].
But that still doesnt change my mind. I still think that at the moment you are the most suspicious.
Even more now because of this post 3 posts above me that I find odd and suspicious.

I wont change my vote unless someone [else] has a really good argument or there is evidence of a better suspect.
As I suggested before, the best way to determine suspects is to go back and look at the possible reasons behind an attack.
 

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Seeing the past 3 pages of text,
I believe that Old_man would've died if he wasn't the Elite Civ or the Serial Killer or some other event happened. Seeing as he is, we need to find out who the serial killer is.

Currently, though, I will have to vote Old_Man_Oak_63. Sorry man, you just seem a tad more suspicious than everyone else. There's a good chance I'll retract this once more evidence proves you're the elite civ.
 

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I don't think oak is a skeleton. What I do think is nottykitten is really pushing to lynch him.

Also, if we don't lynch him, wouldn't the mafia want to kill him at night anyways? He stands the chance of being one of the single most destructive roles to the mafia, one they probably would want to get rid of ASAP.
These are my thoughts as well, I tell you now I'd sacrifice myself to help determine the mafia members!
 

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whoa whoa whoa whoa. I fall asleep for 3 hours then two new pages... So anyways I still am suspicious of Oak a bit but I agree with sploorky on that notty seems to be pushing for a lynch. HOWEVER I am also getting a bit suspicious of Sploorky since he is trying to push it away from oak. These are just my quick thoughts on this.
 

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whoa whoa whoa whoa. I fall asleep for 3 hours then two new pages... So anyways I still am suspicious of Oak a bit but I agree with sploorky on that notty seems to be pushing for a lynch. HOWEVER I am also getting a bit suspicious of Sploorky since he is trying to push it away from oak. These are just my quick thoughts on this.
Oak can't be the mafia, though. He was attacked and survived, so he has 2 hit points(which means he is an elite civilian or killer). If I was the mafia, I wouldn't be going out of my way to save either =P
 

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Oak can't be the mafia, though. He was attacked and survived, so he has 2 hit points(which means he is an elite civilian or killer). If I was the mafia, I wouldn't be going out of my way to save either =P
Good point.
Righto here is my theory, i just needed a few more people to post to iron it but its gonan take a few mins to write up. MY SACRFICE COMITH!
You need a few more people to post for it? Can we not hear it now?
 

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wow, I had to leave RIGHT AFTER the events of the night where posted.....

I think that Sploorky is NOT Mafia or serial killer, and that suspecting him is completly wrong.
I think that Defiant is also NOT Mafia or serial killer, he would be working differently.

I read in the other Mafia threads how Defiant and Sploorky (and everyone else) plays when they have something to hide (a power role) and they are not acting suspicously now.
Defiant had an awesome idea of claiming cop and getting the doctor to save him in stead of lynching the detective or another town sided RP.

I am unsure of who to vote for at this point, nitasu is still on my list of possible Mafia or serial killer. Old man oak is acting quite strangely but I am not convinced of him being on the other side. I await his "SACRFICE COMITH!".
 

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Old_Man_Oak_63 Don't sacrifice yourself. If you ARE The Elite Civillian After All, then You'd be hurting the civillian team's chances of winning. Don't make it all harder on us, you nut! ;) Sacrificing yourself probably wouldn't tell us who the mafia is/are/would be anyways, would it? We really would have no idea as to who killed you. For all we know the mafia would target someone else, like Sploorky. Are you willing to lower your team's numbers for the sake of a chance of knowing who a mafia is?
 

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K here we go. So a review of what has happened, first off I was suspicious of Dessern and nitasu for wanting the role of the cop out in the open. However Defiant comes foward saying he is the cop, now this was debated for awhile, but notty came to Blob's defence and managed to pass a no-lynch for the first day. Now I was also suspicious of Defiant as it really did seem odd for the cop to come out straight away especially with no information. Their only excuse was our bad record at finding the detective out early and they wanted to protect that role. Night comes, me super and blob are all attacked but no one knows who by. Super is killed and I survive thanks to a hard hat, while the doctor heals Defiant. Day 2 starts and notty immediately points the finger at me even though Blob revokes his claim to be the cop. As Me and notty argue it becomes clear that notty wants a quick vote, Sploorky comes to my defence also stating that notty is too quick for the vote. While dessern and nitasu come in once again and begin to suspect Sploorky now for coming to my defence, thats understandable.

Well now, this may not be the best recap but here is my theory. So to start it off I think we should talk about Defiant, he claims the role of cop, then revokes that claim. Thats the most sus thing I've seen this game so far, but why would he do it? He gave us reasons why if he were a towny, but not if he were a mafia member, did anyone stop to think that he did it purposely just so the cop would investigate him and find him to be a civilian. Or so he would like everyone to think, if the godfather is investigated by the cop he only appears as a civilian right? This is tactiful move by Blob to hide the truth of his role, that he is the godfather of the mafia! Secondly the way and manner that Notty has defended Blob has also gotten me curious, Notty seems unpersuaded to look at both other possiblities or others arguments, she knows exactly who she wants to vote and if I had been just a civilian instead of an elite civilian then no one would have taken a second look at Blob's true motives as there wasn't many who would have guessed there true motives. So I think Notty is also a mafia member. I'm not iron clad about but the last two mafia members I suspect are nitasu and dessern, although dessern not as much, maybe playing a role such as the serial killer or maybe the vigilante im unsure. But im quite positive that nitasu is also a mafia member, your very first post I was suspicious of and really I still am, the only other reason that i suspect the two of you is you now seem to be suspiscious of Sploorky, of whom I have no doubt is a towny. Its just that it seems to go along with notty and blob's plot to discredit me, I may be wrong but the REAL cop can always check for me. MAI SACRIFICE FOR YOU THE TOWN! Discredit me as you will I have made accusations that now must be taken into account. Not to be ignored.
 

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K here we go. So a review of what has happened, first off I was suspicious of Dessern and nitasu for wanting the role of the cop out in the open. However Defiant comes foward saying he is the cop, now this was debated for awhile, but notty came to Blob's defence and managed to pass a no-lynch for the first day. Now I was also suspicious of Defiant as it really did seem odd for the cop to come out straight away especially with no information. Their only excuse was our bad record at finding the detective out early and they wanted to protect that role. Night comes, me super and blob are all attacked but no one knows who by. Super is killed and I survive thanks to a hard hat, while the doctor heals Defiant. Day 2 starts and notty immediately points the finger at me even though Blob revokes his claim to be the cop. As Me and notty argue it becomes clear that notty wants a quick vote, Sploorky comes to my defence also stating that notty is too quick for the vote. While dessern and nitasu come in once again and begin to suspect Sploorky now for coming to my defence, thats understandable.

Well now, this may not be the best recap but here is my theory. So to start it off I think we should talk about Defiant, he claims the role of cop, then revokes that claim. Thats the most sus thing I've seen this game so far, but why would he do it? He gave us reasons why if he were a towny, but not if he were a mafia member, did anyone stop to think that he did it purposely just so the cop would investigate him and find him to be a civilian. Or so he would like everyone to think, if the godfather is investigated by the cop he only appears as a civilian right? This is tactiful move by Blob to hide the truth of his role, that he is the godfather of the mafia! Secondly the way and manner that Notty has defended Blob has also gotten me curious, Notty seems unpersuaded to look at both other possiblities or others arguments, she knows exactly who she wants to vote and if I had been just a civilian instead of an elite civilian then no one would have taken a second look at Blob's true motives as there wasn't many who would have guessed there true motives. So I think Notty is also a mafia member. I'm not iron clad about but the last two mafia members I suspect are nitasu and dessern, although dessern not as much, maybe playing a role such as the serial killer or maybe the vigilante im unsure. But im quite positive that nitasu is also a mafia member, your very first post I was suspicious of and really I still am, the only other reason that i suspect the two of you is you now seem to be suspiscious of Sploorky, of whom I have no doubt is a towny. Its just that it seems to go along with notty and blob's plot to discredit me, I may be wrong but the REAL cop can always check for me. MAI SACRIFICE FOR YOU THE TOWN! Discredit me as you will I have made accusations that now must be taken into account. Not to be ignored.
I have been suspicious of Defiant's role switching business so plus this theory. I will vote Defiant_Blob.
 
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