I think we can all agree having 4 proven innocents also means the scum get a list of our power roles... so why would you want to do claims first? If we were going to no lynch tonight we shouldve done that before giving scum an upper hand not gave them an upper hand and waste the advantage we'd just given ourselves
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Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Because the way I see it 4 proven innocents pose a very very big threat to the mafia. The mafia is gonna have to kill them or their chances to lose increase. And if the mafia is busy killing the Proven ones, the PR's can roam freely to use their powers for good. And if the mafia decides to kill PR's, their chances to survive during the day drastically lower. So having them known before No Lynching sets that in motion.
Sploorky
Member
Its turning into a back and forth battle that isnt getting anywhere 
Notty isn't entirely wrong in the suggestion to out if you are a guest or not, both good and bad come from it. It is just the ignoring of the bad that I see which is the issue. Ansoro's acting pretty strange, but if he was mafia, I don't see why he'd say the guests may be guilty, that seems very unscummy and attention drawing.
However, I'd rather get to that later. I vote nottykitten based on the very suspicious tunnel vision style of play she is showing, and for the suggestion of making the cop spend a night investigating one of the guests.
Notty isn't entirely wrong in the suggestion to out if you are a guest or not, both good and bad come from it. It is just the ignoring of the bad that I see which is the issue. Ansoro's acting pretty strange, but if he was mafia, I don't see why he'd say the guests may be guilty, that seems very unscummy and attention drawing.
However, I'd rather get to that later. I vote nottykitten based on the very suspicious tunnel vision style of play she is showing, and for the suggestion of making the cop spend a night investigating one of the guests.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
I can see the suspicion by the play style, but I am not the only one saying that the cop should visit one of the guests. It's actually a good idea, and while the cop may find out if he is sane or not when one of his investigations die, that may actually be a few days. Days the cop might not have.
Sploorky
Member
I fully believe it isnt a good idea for the cop to spend a night to confirm if they are sane or paranoid instead of spending his time looking at the PRs. How much time the cop has is inconsequential, because that doesn't change the topic at hand. If the cop gets one inno and one guilty, THEN it would be a good time for them to look at the guest.
HypeBurst
Just Fabulous
*too lazy to quote but the part when ansoro said the last cop should claim*
Hold the fuck up. Ansoro we just lost our first cop and now youre saying it would be a good idea for the other cop to claim and put their head on the chopping block for the sake of one investigation that we cant even be sure is true. Ansoro that honestly makes no sense whatsoever. Its so highly unlikely that the other cop will be taken out, theres no urgency for them so claim. Honestly my fos is on you now, town wouldnt want to put our last cop in danger like that.
Hold the fuck up. Ansoro we just lost our first cop and now youre saying it would be a good idea for the other cop to claim and put their head on the chopping block for the sake of one investigation that we cant even be sure is true. Ansoro that honestly makes no sense whatsoever. Its so highly unlikely that the other cop will be taken out, theres no urgency for them so claim. Honestly my fos is on you now, town wouldnt want to put our last cop in danger like that.
Ansoro2112
Hottie
I already said is not the brightest idea but I just don't want our last cop to get killed without knowing anyone he/she invesitagted.
And seriously? If I were to be Mafia or Third Party I wouldn't be pushing so hard for the cop to out. That would be so obvious.
Ansoro2112
Hottie
But I'll use that "card" because it's the truth. Why would I be bringing all the attention to myself once again if all the attention was on Notty? I could've easily BW and vote for him and just fly under the radar. But that's just not how I play. I don't BW any single vote. If there's something I don't like I'll speak my mind. If I have an idea I'll make sure I put it out there.
If I were to be Mafia or Third Party I wouldn't be doing that. That's why I say the day I get to be one of those roles I would suck. But today is not that day.
Remember that time that I unvoted? Consider it a threat.
I was only slightly Suspicious of notty, but you're off the charts right now.
But im not going to vote. Not yet.
Why? Ansoro could be town. Hes dojng a bad job of town telling, but im also kinda suspicious of fruit for playing the "its just as easy card"
I was only slightly Suspicious of notty, but you're off the charts right now.
But im not going to vote. Not yet.
Why? Ansoro could be town. Hes dojng a bad job of town telling, but im also kinda suspicious of fruit for playing the "its just as easy card"
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
@ansoro2112 It's not the fact that you don't vote for notty that makes you suspicious. It's that whole post that I quoted earlier. First you go ahead and speak some nonsense about Guests possibly not being who they say they are, motive for that would be trying to cast some suspicion on them to try and get us do your dirty work for you by lynching one of the confirmeds, who may not be confirmed after all.
Then you proceed to ask the last cop to basically commit suicide and you end the post with basically this: "Well, maybe notty isn't guilty, but maybe he is and well maybe he isn't though.". Obviously a mafioso wouldn't want to lose one of his own, but at the same time he would also want to keep his own suspicion down, which would end up in a vague post that says "Maybe he is and maybe he isn't but I'd rather not lynch him just yet". Which is basically what you said. Considering the fact that notty was already pretty high up on our suspicion list, it would've been better for you to come up with an actual opinion about notty, and an explanation, instead of something vague, especially after your whole post before that made little to no sense at all.
@Nottykitten The reason I think you two are both mafia is the fact that it seems to me like ansoro is trying to defend you, while not actually giving a clear explanation. Add the rest of ansoro's post to that, which practically labeled him as scum for me and you can see why I think you two are both in the mafia.
Of course, even if I hadn't found a connection like that between you two, I'd still go straight to the other one once one is dead and turns up as scum, because of the overall suspicion on both of you.
Now I really would like to hear why it's nonsense. The fact you didn't explain it all, but just discarded it as "Nonsense" doesn't really help you, at least not in my eyes.
Then you proceed to ask the last cop to basically commit suicide and you end the post with basically this: "Well, maybe notty isn't guilty, but maybe he is and well maybe he isn't though.". Obviously a mafioso wouldn't want to lose one of his own, but at the same time he would also want to keep his own suspicion down, which would end up in a vague post that says "Maybe he is and maybe he isn't but I'd rather not lynch him just yet". Which is basically what you said. Considering the fact that notty was already pretty high up on our suspicion list, it would've been better for you to come up with an actual opinion about notty, and an explanation, instead of something vague, especially after your whole post before that made little to no sense at all.
@Nottykitten The reason I think you two are both mafia is the fact that it seems to me like ansoro is trying to defend you, while not actually giving a clear explanation. Add the rest of ansoro's post to that, which practically labeled him as scum for me and you can see why I think you two are both in the mafia.
Of course, even if I hadn't found a connection like that between you two, I'd still go straight to the other one once one is dead and turns up as scum, because of the overall suspicion on both of you.
Now I really would like to hear why it's nonsense. The fact you didn't explain it all, but just discarded it as "Nonsense" doesn't really help you, at least not in my eyes.
Ansoro2112
Hottie
Oh no. Trust me, I wouldn't do such thing. I'm not the noble kind of guy.
Last season I was the Queen/Bodyguard. I could protect anyone I could but if that person I protected got hit by mafia or third party I would've died instead. Guess what, I NEVER ever protected anyone in the game. Because I'm that selfish when I play.
Same here. If I were to be "Mafia" next to Notty I wouldn't be sacrificing myself. Oh trust me, I would let Notty sink to his death no matter how important his role might be.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
*sees Ltin's post*
*tries to respond*
**you got 1 new alert**
*tries to read endersteves post*
**you got 1 new alert**
*sees ansoro's post*
Geeeeez the posts are coming in as fast as bullets.
*tries to respond*
**you got 1 new alert**
*tries to read endersteves post*
**you got 1 new alert**
*sees ansoro's post*
Geeeeez the posts are coming in as fast as bullets.
Ansoro2112
Hottie
First of all don't try to twist my words. I never said we needed to lynch the 4 players that claimed Regular Guest. I just said Istill don't trust 100% their claim. And that's just ME! Let me think that way. If you want to believe in them then go ahead. But don't blame me for thinking that way. It's hard for me to trust what people say here.
And I'm not asking the cop to commit suicide. I just stated my opinion. I'm not pointing a gun into the cops head and be like "You better claim now". No. I just gave my opinion about it. I'm sorry if it doesn't fits with everyone else's idea of the cop.
And it doesn't matter how high Notty can be in the "Suspicious List". I can careless how many people are against him. That will NOT influence what I think. I have my own brain and I will ONLY vote when I'm sure who to vote for. I'm not a follower. And if that will put a target in my back then so be it.
GmK mentioned about Notty coming up with this plan of claiming and then voting No Lynch to give Mafia a chance to now get rid off a PR. You guys might see it that way, I don't. That's why I'm not voting for him. Or at least not yet.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Yes, I am the stalker and Ansoro the terrorist is going to suicide bomb so that I don't get lynched. You got us ;-;.
I have a good reason for that! I wrote down like 6 different things but each time I didn't like what I wrote so I deleted it D=. And eventually I was just like "I'll just say I think its nonsense".
Ansoro might be "defending" me, but I have not done the same. I have no suspicion on Ansoro but I do not trust him either. Just because he defends me doesn't mean we are a team. I surely wouldn't like being lynched if Ansoro turns out to be Mafia.
Especially since as he just stated: "He is just following his own opinion". And sometimes that means defending people you think are innocent. And if he think's I am innocent then he may feel free to defend me.
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