Trouble in the West: Pirates vs Cowboys [Finished]

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Timdood3

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Alright, Swate, I have an idea.

Who did you jail?

And now that you've claimed, those who you have jailed can confirm your role. Or rather, confirm that it isn't your role...

but they do not know where they are as they are blindfolded.
Oh, come on, I'm pretty sure they'd be smart enough to deduce that it's some sort of jailer...

And you know, now that I think about it....There is a role on epicmafia called the executioner....it acts exactly like jailer, but mafia aligned....That said, I doubt I'd believe you anyway.
 

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^I'm coherent I swear....

What I mean to say is that unless the executioner is the only source of the mafias kills, and those who Swate claims to have jailed confirms that that was indeed the case, then he must be town aligned. However, I don't think this is the case and will wait until Swate claims his targets, and they confirm or deny his statement.

Best of luck to you, Swate...I feel you're going to need it.
 

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According to Samlen's plan we could spend up to three days lynching people, two of which would be innocent. By then the mafia could very well have won.

When it comes to Ooglie's investigation, it's 50/50 between Digi and Swate, one or neither of which could be a pirate....

I'm just repeating myself at this point, I'm gonna shut up and wait for the rest of Swate's claim.
 

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Okay, I'd like to start by saying that you really are cherry-picking random things I say and trying to find fault. In fact, most of that stuff I have already explained and literally cannot explain further.

Anyway, onwards:



Already explained here:

Mhm, this is definitely me. I still consider myself quite new to Mafia (obviously, since I've only played Plane Troubles and absolutely nothing else ever) and as such I tend to just sort of ride off of other more experienced players, like a glider with thermals, but when I find something I am confident with then I spring up.

I only voted for Tim because everyone else seemed to be doing that. I still am not 100% sure if a no-lynch is the best option, but I am sticking with it (for now) out of a combination of the statistics provided by Fiesta and it being a familiar approach to me (since we did it in the only game I've played yet.) Ooglie, there is nothing suspicious about me :x I was just sort of mimicking everyone else.

For the record, and for the heck of saying it again here to make it easy for thread-readers, I still see OMO as the most suspicious.

I also stated later on somewhere that I would try to not do this, and lo and behold I am not anymore. Please do not hold me to something based on my personality that I am actually consciously trying not to do now.

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Again, explanation has already been quoted here with some criticism added. I'd like you to ask yourself, if you really do see that as a stuff up, you don't actually think I'm dumb enough to explicitly refer to myself as Mafia? I'm not. It was a small shit I took on the ground which slowly erupted into a diarrhoea tsunami, all because I didn't read the comment right. If someone could tell me how to view timestamps on posts that are that old, I could see what time I posted it and be able to use grogginess as added defense.

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I was, at the time, quite annoyed at the fact that so many people were flying under the radar and getting away from suspicion scot-free, so I believed the best way to remedy this was to average out my number of comments by not saying everything after I said a crapload. I feel like I can now 'respond to this intelligibly' as I say, because people have been talking a wee bit more now than before and do not feel intimidated by this fact.

^^^ (I don't know if I've expressed what I'm thinking in my head here completely clearly, the wording seems a little incongruent, feel free to question anything I've said in this paragraph.) ^^^

I can provide possible theories for why they did not jump on me as you say, but even I do not know why they didn't so this is speculation. Maybe they had someone else on their mind and weren't concentrating on me? Or maybe they believed that jumping on me like that would backfire since they know the majority of players in this game are relatively experienced? I don't know.

I never retracted that post. I don't know where you got that from, I simply stated that later on (i.e. now, apparently) I would post. I said that to try and reduce any suspicion people might throw at me for me choosing to shut up.

And if you really think I was 'trying to divert attention,' why didn't I divert to anyone in specific in that comment? I didn't provide anything to divert people's attention to, I was merely putting up a metaphorical shield, to put it that way.

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Usually any "appeals to emotion that you mention are just me sort of whining to myself, as I've said about the one you mentioned up earlier.

This comment of Samlen's is pretty much explainable by what I mentioned just before.

I guess I don't really have any excuse for not typing this "legitimate, intelligible response" other than I felt quite lazy and apathetic.
This was also fueled by me getting annoyed at a combination of people pointing out random things to find me suspicious and other people flying under the radar.

As you can see in my comment Tim's quoted, I was torn between not voting for whom I felt suspicious out of fear that others would find me suspicious for it, due to the fact that it seemed bandwagon-y since othrs had already been voting for him. I ended up voting for him anyway, since I felt fed up with the whole situation and just decided to do it.

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So, in conclusion, I believe that Ooglie is either the Insane Cop (where alignments on the report received are reversed) or Confused Cop (where the alignments are randomised.) I do not know which is more likely in this game, due to this being a closed setup. I feel as if voting for Digi this quick when there are alternatives as she says, admittedly, was maybe a little rash. But, due to this turn of events, I am keeping my vote on her as she is the most suspicious:
But that's what she's saying. She never expected you to folllow suit, I get the feeling that she is a little fed up with nothing happening and voted based purely on gut to get things moving.
I guess it's not a rash move, while it could be seen as impatient I think it's necessary for the game's integrity. As such, until my gut instinct moves elsewhere I'm alsoo keeping my vote on my gut instinct.

Vote Duffie
Others may disagree, but I feel as though having a vote and just switching it whenever is overall better than just having no vote most of the time.

In fact, for all we know Ooglie might not even be a cop. Ooglie might just be shitting with us for all we know. xD that would be beautiful if I had to write all this up for an hour because Ooglie decided to fakeclaim and I happened to get caught in the crossfire.


P.S. Wow, that's my biggest post yet, and my most chock-full post in a Mafia game ever. -proud-
 

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I still see OMO as the most suspicious.
He's dead and innocent...but K
I'd like you to ask yourself, if you really do see that as a stuff up, you don't actually think I'm dumb enough to explicitly refer to myself as Mafia?
I do, that's why it's called a slip, because no one would do it intentionally . _.
Maybe they had someone else on their mind and weren't concentrating on me? Or maybe they believed that jumping on me like that would backfire since they know the majority of players in this game are relatively experienced?
Or maybe they were mafia not wanting to get rid of an important role for themselves?
Usually any "appeals to emotion that you mention are just me sort of whining to myself, as I've said about the one you mentioned up earlier.
Yeah, I can see that, and I understand.
I never retracted that post. I don't know where you got that from
I quoted where I got that from. I took the "I'll post something intelligible later" as "ignore that, listen to what I say later" Could easily have been a misunderstanding, sure.
I believe that Ooglie is either the Insane Cop (where alignments on the report received are reversed)
I'll be honest here, I wrote the above just for the sake of it because I'd already taken the quotes, but you said that there is a possibility that Ooglie is an insane cop. Ooglie got an innocent report on you. That means that according to his report, you'd be a pirate. And you agree that it could happen. Sorry, friend, but you've just cemented yourself in my mind.

If you weren't a pirate, you wouldn't even consider Ooglie being insane, because you'd know that his claim was fake.

GG, Swate, GG.

PS: Never got those jail targets....
 

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Alright, Swate, I have an idea.

Who did you jail?

And now that you've claimed, those who you have jailed can confirm your role. Or rather, confirm that it isn't your role...


Oh, come on, I'm pretty sure they'd be smart enough to deduce that it's some sort of jailer...

And you know, now that I think about it....There is a role on epicmafia called the executioner....it acts exactly like jailer, but mafia aligned....That said, I doubt I'd believe you anyway.
Ah, gotta reply to this too.
I didn't use my ability on the first night because I thought that, without knowing anything about anyone, it would be a risky moving letting someone know that this role existed. I then, in order, jailed OMO, Duffie, then storm886.
 

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Alright, this puts you in an interesting position. A jailer not using his ability because he didn't want anyone to know he existed? Hardly an effective use of the role, but sure.

Now tell me...On a scale of one to ten, how convenient is it that two of your targets are dead?

Before we hear Storm's bit, I'd like a general recap of what was said, and why you chose not to kill him.
A recap of Duffie and OMO would be nice, but I won't demand it.
 

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Swate, there has been three nights so far and you claim three targets, with abstaining from targeting the first night, so from your perspective, that would be four nights.

Can I just say that I don't trust your claim at all any more?
Holy crap, I even looked for a catch like that and overlooked it....Proud of you, buddy!
 

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He's dead and innocent...but K
Ah bleh, that first bit is supposed to be a quote. Fixed, I hope:
Mhm, this is definitely me. I still consider myself quite new to Mafia (obviously, since I've only played Plane Troubles and absolutely nothing else ever) and as such I tend to just sort of ride off of other more experienced players, like a glider with thermals, but when I find something I am confident with then I spring up.
I only voted for Tim because everyone else seemed to be doing that. I still am not 100% sure if a no-lynch is the best option, but I am sticking with it (for now) out of a combination of the statistics provided by Fiesta and it being a familiar approach to me (since we did it in the only game I've played yet.) Ooglie, there is nothing suspicious about me :x I was just sort of mimicking everyone else.

For the record, and for the heck of saying it again here to make it easy for thread-readers, I still see OMO as the most suspicious.
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I do, that's why it's called a slip, because no one would do it intentionally . _.
Eh, fair enough, but have you ever seen such an obvious slip-up? It really was just me not reading it right.

I'll be honest here, I wrote the above just for the sake of it because I'd already taken the quotes, but you said that there is a possibility that Ooglie is an insane cop. Ooglie got an innocent report on you. That means that according to his report, you'd be a pirate. And you agree that it could happen. Sorry, friend, but you've just cemented yourself in my mind.

If you weren't a pirate, you wouldn't even consider Ooglie being insane, because you'd know that his claim was fake.
Okay, here we are, I've done it again. I'm not familiar with the different names of Cops and sort of jumbled them in my head a bit. I didn't mean to mention the Insane bit, I think I was thinking back subconsciously to someone else mentioning the Insane Cop role a little earlier while typing this. I really have no words other than this. :\ another pretty bad shit I've taken.
Swate, there has been three nights so far and you claim three targets, with abstaining from targeting the first night, so from your perspective, that would be four nights.

Can I just say that I don't trust your claim at all any more?
There were four nights though? We started in a night phase, remember?
 

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Okay, here we are, I've done it again. I'm not familiar with the different names of Cops and sort of jumbled them in my head a bit. I didn't mean to mention the Insane bit, I think I was thinking back subconsciously to someone else mentioning the Insane Cop role a little earlier while typing this. I really have no words other than this. :\ another pretty bad shit I've taken.

There were four nights though? We started in a night phase, remember?
No, we started with a Day phase and since then there have been 3 nights. Also, I saw the slip that Tim just pointed out about the cop report on you, but since he already pointed it out, I didn't mention it again.

There is no way in hell right now in my mind that you're innocent.

Also, this:
Well, I explicitly--
Ohhhhhhh right fuc, I mistook the giving out of the role PMs prior to the game as a night phase. ehh
What. You have played one game before, you wouldn't make that sort of a mistake, especially since that other game also started with Day.

vote Swate
 
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