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reason being you're searching though the thread for tidbits able to be stretched to fit into a conclusion you had in mind when you started

I was looking back through the thread, reading bits, skimming other bits, etc.
It was difficult due to all the crap and irrelevant posts, but I managed.*
I was reading specifically to get a read on Hunter...In my eyes, he was already scummy due his his overzealous and aggressive style of play, but I put all preconceptions aside and still thought he was scummy.
see here^
 

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Guess I should give my reasoning on hunter.

To me its not so much how jumpy he is, after all that is his play style. I'm bothered by a couple of things.

1 ) he's playing against his play style at times. He's the kind that would rather lynch for information and yet he is jumping between lynching and no lynching? I don't buy it he feels like has an agenda

2) he's trying to hide himself under the (i'm just scumhunting) while doing suspicious things that shouldn't work that way.

3)I feel like he's overstimulating the conversation. I can't say if this is done intentionally or not but blocktopia in the past few games has started overdoing its posts. It makes it hard for a lot of people to follow the thread and can make it impossible to call out lurkers.

On top of that hes playing in ways that should be policy lynched (not going to elaborate just he's pissing people off so much he's making the game less enjoyable)
 

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reason being you're searching though the thread for tidbits able to be stretched to fit into a conclusion you had in mind when you started


see here^
....No, I put aside what I already thought and then read through. Not looking for tidbits to highlight, but looking at your activity in general. And my conclusion stayed the same. I wasn't trying to fit a preconception, I was trying to reach a new conclusion. Just because my conclusion didn't change doesn't mean I was looking for things to go with what I already thought.
 

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Also, hunter is trying to discourage people from actually playing the game the way it was intended. Alphas an experienced player and if his claim were true he could town side. So why lynch him off,wasting a mislynch, for not having a power to help the town. The game is to be able to scumhunt on skill, not rely on power roles the entire way. Hunters discouraging us from even playing.
 

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I know I just voted Alpha but that was because I was too lazy to read all of the messages and instead just followed what Ender said.

Anyways looking back at Ender's posts he always defended Hunter and never even thought about lynching him. Now this could possibly just be that he thinks Alpha is the way to go but over the entire game he hasn't thought about it. (I could be wrong here, quote a post if he did.) So basically I think that Ender & Hunter are mafia buddies and that I shouldn't just follow what the people who make the long posts say and instead look into others messages more. People will probably argue that if Ender & Hunter were mafia buddies then they wouldn't try to look like buddies but Hunter was pretty close to getting lynched before Ender made his post.

Therefor;

unvote

vote Hunter27a1
 

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regardless of whether it was intentional, it's what you did.
try doing the same for each of the other players.

what the fuck is myuser trying to say

and Jolteon42 it was actually lee who turned the tide
I'm saying you're discouraging the town from, idk, actually looking at and attempting to play this game. The game isn't about only using power roles. This game is about trying to read others roles and use strategy to find scum. Yet, you don't want us doing the latter? I have to wonder why.
 

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After all I've pretty much read and what I've thought through, Hunter is still the one I'm most suspicious about.


Vote Hunter27a1


(I'll actually explain later on once I can get to my computer. I'm tired from getting off of work, which explains why I've been quiet all day, and I hate trying to type long posts on this phone.)
 

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And now things are moving......
I still think hunter is suspicious. But I decided to relent because frankly neither of us was getting anywhere.
And now things are happening.

Has anyone noticed that a lot of what hunter says is attacking the people that find him suspicious?
I'm saying you're discouraging the town from, idk, actually looking at and attempting to play this game. The game isn't about only using power roles. This game is about trying to read others roles and use strategy to find scum. Yet, you don't want us doing the latter? I have to wonder why.
This is true

unvote

Vote hunter27a1
 

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While we're doing this on one side and asking everyone to recap why they vote Hunter, can everyone that is voting Alpha give their own recap of why they are voting Alpha. Since I have the feeling people are voting Alpha for wrong reasons.
I already unvoted, but I'll help
Primary reasons: not town, more expendable than town sided pr
May not actually be alien
 

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In my eyes, he was already scummy due his his overzealous and aggressive style of play.

Along with pretty much everything Alpha just said above, I had also noted that Hunter was very jumpy, changing the subject frequently and generally causing mass chaos. It feels like an attempt to make it hard to find actually relevant information..And it worked, see asterisk above.

And one thing I'd like to point out was the interaction between Ender and Hunter in which Ender asked Hunter to claim. Hunter refuses to claim a role and claims simply "townsided." Without hesitation, Ender believed it. Who in their right mind would claim anti-town? Ender didn't seem to even consider that Hunter would be lying.

Vote Hunter27a1
We've known each other for so long, that I still can't see Hunter's playstyle as valid grounds to lynch him. The points that aren't directly related to his playstyle are somewhat valid, yes, but let's remember that he claimed town. I'll let you use your imagination on the topic of why exactly he wouldn't want to reveal his specific role to the public.

As for the bit about me believing Hunter's claim without hesitation, no, this is wrong. I make no illusions for myself about Hunter possibly claiming something he's not, but I factor in all the possibilities and probabilities, and my head and heart are both telling me not to lynch a town claim on the first day, especially considering how we've got two third party claims, with whom we'd have no risk of lynching a potentially useful PR. At least according to their claims, that is. I favour a lynch very strongly and if the majority decides that Hunter should be the one to die, then I will change my vote, as already stated. I just think that Alpha is the safer option here, especially considering how he seems to have started attacking Hunter much more actively over the last pages, which can suggest that he's getting nervous or something. Sorry, it's 1 am here and I'm sleepy, if you want me to explain better, I can try.
 

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The game isn't about only using power roles.
I'm confident you aren't a power role because you wouldn't play like this if you were and I don't really believe your town sided at this point.
From my perspective alpha really could be anything from vanilla towny to mafia godfather. Though, I don't really believe for a second that he's an alien.
Well it's up to you if I'm worth keeping around. If you want to minimize losses then no lynch today and lynch me tomorrow if I'm not dead during the night, if a bigger threat hasn't emerged.
He has: He said leave me for later.

I'm not sure on Ltin. He's voted twice and retracted them quickly both times. But on the other hand I don't want him mad at me since he's actually defending me...
this is the kind of shit that goes with third parties. this is why I am voting you.
And yes, what I just said is a textbook case of bias. However I'm being honest about it, just like I agreed to.

I can't focus on being offensive yet as I need to defend myself before I sleep. I don't want to wake up dead.
Why are we believing Alpha's claim?
some nice quotes to ponder over
also alpha doesn't have a chance to be a useful town pr
 
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