also please, duffie, cut the filler. you're flooding the thread and drowning actual discussion. please at least present evidence or valid logic
And a lot of other people weren't many, amny, many pages of this thread ago?
if alpha flips mafia, jk duffie myu and Sam are gonna be in for a hell of a time
That's a bit of a baseless claim, and a rather radical one at that.
I can understand Duffie "having a bit of a hard time" due to the obvious from all the posts in the thread thus far, and yet you stretch such a broad view to simply people who don't agree, such as myself whose held the same opinion since the beginning.
Sam is a bit strange to be frank, as far as I can tell he's done
nothing to warrant such a claim. In fact Sam is still putting together his own thoughts.
If such is not allowed, are we to fall once again into the claims that people
should not be allowed to form their own thoughts and theories that so PREVALENTLY seems to be encompassed in this thread?
Numerous times, Hunter being one of the most obvious, trying to drown out other people's voices in this thread, the quote I just previously did is one such (and has been done in the past, why was that not called out upon but now is? I question.)
Jk, if the claim is do unbelievable why let him be
Like Defiant said; Alpha won't be unbiased.
Also the possible effect of the probes; they likely have an effect die to him only being able to probe once a night
First of all, I don't understand a word of what you meant in that final bit outside of Alien probably only having one probe per night.
But to answer your question, why let Alpha live?
Well... I also find Hunter's claim to be a bit silly and unbelievable. He
won't even fully explain it and instead goes off to discuss other things and other topics, also, as you said previously and I quote:
"flooding the thread and drowning actual discussion"
which I might point out is one reason people had such a bad time with him thus far.
I also find Notty's claim strange, and that too is clouded in a veil of uncertainty.
He claimed cop, but now he also claimed it was apparently a third-party cop.
We could also say he wont be unbiased.
Who's to say we aren't ALL biased. Asking such a question will simply lead us in circles.
I must say, from the actions thus far, doubt has slowly been removed from my mind and I will not stand firm with my vote on Hunter, no matter the outcome, because I believe this is all very shady.
I base my vote on all the thoughts presented in the past (and yes these are generalizations)
-His jumpiness and almost "forgetfullness" to answer questions, which heavily implies he is only caring about specific parts of this thread, which also feels as a part of a plan. Ignoring arguments is easy and a valid strategy but scummy.
-Hypocriticalness, stating everything thus far is simply helping Mafia when it is just as good for town when not DROWNED in, as Hunter has also done.
-Strawmanning, blowing arguments out of proportion, stating hypothethicals constantly in an attempt to prove things that aren't even there
-A silly claim with no explanation and desperation.
Desperation can mean many things to different people, and no matter what in the past we cannot say for certain whether desperation implies town, third party, or Mafia. Desperation simply implies at this point that they are close to death.
But this claim, just as Alpha, just as Nottys, just as Duffies.
Holds no weight.
We can vote on the basis of their alignment, sure, thats easy. It's easy to claim town or third-party, and depending on the role it may also be easy to defend.
And yet somehow everyone walked away from Hunter after claiming simply to be "town." I know ender suddenly turned. To be that seems weird, there was no confrontation, no questioning about it. It simply became "fact" all of a sudden.
In fact that seems to be the case with a lot of our conjecture today. Somehow, someway, everything has ended up becoming "facts."
Hunter pushes his accusations away, we even saw this in the cussing out and desperation shown previously before his claim. He doesn't give insight or often opinions, he often seems to jump in with people and push the bandwagon alongside others as seen with Defiant, and now to an extent, Jivvi.
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I'm sorry, but I cannot accept Hunter now as more "town friendly" than even Alpha or the others.
The fact that this claim is itself so "unbelievable" makes it even more curious that we actually don't even know what Alpha is, because in all probability, Alpha most likely is not an Alien.
...Although I cannot say what he may actually may be, as I do not know.
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